Lit The Lucas Universe Timeline

I believe there is a 3rd Star Wars Universe and it is the Lucasverse which Stories do you consider to be Canon for the Lucasverse? for me is this:
the Phantom Menace
Attack of the Clones
TCW Seasons 1-6
Revenge of the Sith
Star Wars Underworld Scripts
Star Wars 1313 Video Game maybe this Video Game was a Sequel to the Storylines of Boba Fett from TCW Show
the Force Unleashed 1 Lucas once considered this Video Game as part of his Saga
A New Hope
the Empire Strikes Back
Return of the Jedi
Lucas Sequels ideas with Darth Maul and Darth Talon
well this is all i can think of what could be considered Canonical in Lucas Canon or Universe

 

Great thread idea. I kind of include the Darth Plagueis book too since Luceno is on record as having consulted George while creating the book.

 

Why not CW S7? The scripts for that were written and mostly produced while George was on board.

 

Even siege of mandalore? I was under the impression that was made for the revival.

 

The Holiday Special and both Ewok movies were all based on stories developed by Lucas, and could thus be considered "Lucas canon" from a certain point of view (although the Bearded One himself might not entirely agree).

 

I would also include the history of the Sith from the TPM novelization.

 

Lucasverse also adds ALIEN EXODUS and thus his non SW Works

As well as Willow....

 

The idea/concept existed. It's what the Ahsoka novel is flashing back to, which is why it doesn't line up with Dave's revised version.

So if this timeline is using Lucas's sequel ideas, I think Siege would be included as well.

 

If you really wanted to go all-in on this idea, there are scraps of lore threaded all through Star Wars that emerge from GL's original background notes - Threepio being built 112 years before ANH on the planet Affa, the broad strokes of Han's backstory as an Imperial officer who freed Chewie from slavery, etc. Of course you'd probably be looking at a lot of research to tease out those details, and they're all subject to change - the Affa thing was discarded when he later established that Anakin built Threepio, for instance - but as a thought experiment along the lines of "one canon" it might be fun to attempt.

 

Darth Bane and the 2,000-year history of the Sith, without any Jedi-Sith wars, as well.

 

I don’t think the original backstory for Threepio’s conflicts with TPM. Threepio was clearly manufactured in a factory prior to being trashed

 

For sure, and indeed I think both continuities have gone in that basic direction to reconcile the two stories. I was thinking more from Lucas's perspective - TPM's authorial intent seems to lean more toward "Anakin built Threepio" than "Anakin rebuilt Threepio." Re-integrating Affa into Threepio's post-TPM backstory feels more like an after-the-fact retcon than something Lucas himself actually intended while writing that movie.

 

The comic series Darth Maul: Son of Dathomir and the novel Dark Disciple should definitely be included, since they are adaptions of unfinished Clone Wars episodes that George worked on.

Season 7 is an interesting case. We got the Batch Batch story reels that were produced on George's watch and they were nearly identical to the final episodes, so those can be considered part of the Lucas Universe. However, we know the Ahsoka underworld arc was originally very different and had Ahsoka working with a guy named Nyx rather than the Martez sisters, so it likely bares little resemblance to what George had been involved with and can be excluded.

It's tough to say if the Siege of Mandalore should be included or not, since I don't believe it had a completed script at the time of the acquisition. We will likely never know how closely what we got followed the story George had in mind.

 

I feel like Filoni would want the finale to hew as close as possible to what he did with George, based on the interviews I've seen. As for the Martez sisters, if you watch the released reels of Ahsoka’s Walkabout they're identical to the final thing up to and including dialog from Nyx given to the sisters.

I think aside from switching out a character, the major change is bringing in Bo-Katan and Maul earlier and losing the setup for Ahsoka going down to the Sith temple.

Even that Temple arc I think has echoes in Rebels S4. Ahsoka was gonna protect the holocron vault from Sidious, with a sketch Filoni showed of her defending against Sith lighting. Her defending the Lothal Temple/WBW against Sidious' intrusion, including defending against Sith Fire, seems to fit in with Filoni saying that the "core narratives" of S7-8 are canon *because* he worked on them with George. Some differences come in because Filoni is way more attached to the EU than Lucas ever was, so even though he wants his Star Wars to be a continuation of George's vision, ultimately I think Filoni has a "larger view of the Force" than Lucas.

 

Unless I’ve missed something, I don’t believe these should be included.

 

The Force Unleashed was the only Star Wars Video Game that George Lucas once considered as a Real Chapter of his Saga and i put Star Wars 1313 here because that Video Game seemed to be related to Star Wars Underworld most of the Show was going to take place in the Level 1313 of Coruscant

 

Pretty sure Lucas's role in TFU was overstated; he was in a couple meetings and made some suggestions but didn't have any more involvement than that. (One of those suggestions was Darth Icky for Starkiller's Sith name, if that tells you anything about his level of care for the game.)

 

How you know that? there were rumors of Galen Marek/Starkiller appearing in Underworld

 

By that definition of rumours, there were also rumours of Marek appearing in Ahsoka.

On "Darth Insanius":

 

Ironically Lucas was more involved and contributed more in the Force Unleashed 1 Video Game than in Disney ST that says a lot the Force Unleashed 1 could be considered more Canonical than Shadows of the Empire Multimedia Project

 

I don't understand the irony, personally. Of course he'd be more involved when he owned the company than when he didn't. Regarding TFU v SotE: sure, I guess? Is there any relation between the two, or any contradictions?

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If by "Lucas Timeline" we're referring to what George himself considers part of his story, I'd say:

- TPM
- AotC
- Some of TCW — I'm sure there are some arcs/episodes which he had/has no real interest in
- RotS
- Story concepts for Underworld
- Original Trilogy (MacClunkey edition)
- Whatever his most recent Sequel concepts are/were

I very much doubt he saw TFU or the Maul game as anything more than merchandising. If story input qualifies them for "Canon" status, than what about his contributions/notes on NJO, or Dark Empire?

 

So why did Lucas once consider the Force Unleashed to be part of his Saga? even if it was just marketing why didnt he do the same with other Star Wars Video Games like for example KOTOR or SWTOR? Lucas was strange about the Canon sometimes such as he preventing Quinlan Vos from dying at the end of Republic Comic because he wanted to use Quinlan in Underworld TV Show or Quinlan Vos being mentioned by Obi Wan in Revenge of the Sith before TCW Show Lucas wrote the Prologue for Mace Windu Novel Shatterpoint imagine Lucas doing the same thing in a Disney Canon Novel

 

I don't think he did, that it was just marketing. Everything was sold as "the next chapter in the Star Wars saga!" when it came out.

 

The Sith are founded ~2000 BBY, but then quickly self-destruct. It’s the Banite Sith who battle the Jedi from 2000 to 1000 BBY. Shortly before their apparent “extinction”, the Sith rule the galaxy.

 

Do have any evidence for this? Lucas was also involved in providing some ideas for the Plagueis novel for that matter. He still considered the EU as a whole as a ‘test ground alternative universe.’ Both of those projects still fall within that category in my opinion.