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The Man That Saved Luke Skywalker: Darth Vader or Anakin Skywalker?

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by LordVader66, Sep 10, 2006.

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The Man That Saved Luke Skywalker: Darth Vader or Anakin Skywalker?

Poll closed Mar 22, 2012.
  1. Darth Vader

    9.5%
  2. Anakin Skywalker

    90.5%
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  1. LordVader66

    LordVader66 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Did Darth Vader or Anakin Skywalker save Luke?

    Consider my vote in favor of Vader. "Train yourself to let go of everything you fear to lose" is something Anakin couldn't do and a hallmark of Darth Vader. Fearing the loss of Luke, Vader struck out at his Master. Darth Vader was defined by the love of his family. I don't agree with the people that think Anakin saved Luke. He didn't need to be Anakin again to save Luke. Its the same stitution with Mace Windu, only people consider Anakin is saving Luke because Palpatine is evil. Killing Palpatine "wasn't the Jedi way". I think it was Vader against Mace and again Vader against Palpatine in ROTJ.
     
  2. anidanami124

    anidanami124 Jedi Master star 6

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    Once Vader went after Palpatine in my eyes he was not Vader any more. He was Anakin Skywalker again who at long last learned what he should have learned the first time to let go when it is time.
     
  3. _Sublime_Skywalker_

    _Sublime_Skywalker_ Jedi Master star 4

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    Agree. Anakin skywalker finally stands up against his former master and Vader as a whole, becomming himself once more.
     
  4. Malikail

    Malikail Jedi Padawan star 4

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    QFT
     
  5. Boba16

    Boba16 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I couldn't vote cause they aren't two different people.

    They are the same person, and the fact that Lucas has actually twisted the whole saga around now to make people think that they are seperate people because of the ROTJ SE force ghost change, tells me he has ruined the whole saga now 1-6.

    In some ways that is why I can't wait til this Tuesday when I can watch the saga 4-6 (O-OT) without all the contradictions anymore and when the whole saga made sense.

    Anakin/Vader is the same person, so it was Anakin Skywalker who of course saved Luke in ROTJ, he just went by the name Darth Vader at that point.
     
  6. VyndAcharon

    VyndAcharon Jedi Youngling star 1

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    They're the same man. That was the entire point of RotJ. Obi-wan, indoctrinated in Jedi philosophy and metaphysics, believed and acted as if they were two different people. Luke, lacking this indoctrination, rejected Obi-wan's "point of view." He was mature enough to discern the truth for himself, without the hero worship and attachment that characterized him in ANH. He believed "Anakin Skywalker (was) his true name, (he'd) only forgotten." With his dying words, Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker agreed with Luke: "Tell your sister you were right about me." Ultimately, Obi-wan and Yoda came to see Luke's youthful wisdom when they re-united with the aged spirit of Anakin Solo in the afterlife.
     
  7. Master_Starwalker

    Master_Starwalker Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Indeed.

    Anakin Skywalker killed Darth Vader and Darth Sidious and thus he destroyed the Sith.
     
  8. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    People can change and that is what Anakin finally learns when he sees Luke dying. He realizes that he can change, when he thought it was impossible to turn back from the dark side. He realizes that he cannot stop the change as Shmi told him. He uses the compassion that has been building up inside of him and uses it to do the right thing. When he saves Luke, he does so as Anakin Skywalker. He is the same man. But it is the good man that he once was, coming back up to the surface now. His soul restored to him.
     
  9. darthzeppo

    darthzeppo Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Aug 21, 2005
    i voted Anakin even though i view them as the same person. he's not skitzo.
     
  10. dude4c

    dude4c Jedi Youngling star 3

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    he finally practiced what he preached,
    "sometimes we must let go of our pride and do what is asked of us" anikin-aotc
     
  11. DarthLassic007

    DarthLassic007 Jedi Master star 6

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    The Chosen One returned.
     
  12. Wraith20878

    Wraith20878 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    They were the same person. Regardless of what he called himself, Anakin Skywalker was still responsible for all of his actions as "Darth Vader." This includes throwing Palpatine to his death.
     
  13. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Chosen One star 7

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    No matter how you look at it, Anakin/Vader renounced the Sith to save his son, so in my book it doesn't really matter what name he goes by. Darth Vader is his sith name and title, but his true name is Anakin.
     
  14. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Anakin. Vader would never do something like that because he's evil.
     
  15. MsLanna

    MsLanna Jedi Master star 6

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    Anakin Skywalker, yes but think Sebastian Shaw, while you're at it.[face_not_talking]
     
  16. General Kenobi

    General Kenobi Administrator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Anakin. The scene on Endor when Luke surrenders tells much.
     
  17. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    So..an English character actor swapped places with Anakin Skywalker at the last second and saved Mark Hamill? :p
     
  18. _Sublime_Skywalker_

    _Sublime_Skywalker_ Jedi Master star 4

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    Exactly. Yay for actors and there super human resistance to force lightning.
     
  19. DarthButt

    DarthButt Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    This is not a Hayden/Shaw debate thread.
     
  20. SkottASkywalker

    SkottASkywalker Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I voted Anakin Skywalker.

    Anakin turned back to the Good Side of the Force, saved his son and destroyed the Sith, fulfilling the prophecy, bringing balance to the Force and restoring peace and freedom to the galaxy.

    Anakin went through much throughout the six episode STAR WARS SAGA. When it came time, and with love from and for his son, he did what he was meant to do.

    STAR WARS =D=
     
  21. Darthdias

    Darthdias Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I didn't vote because I was undecided, but I will point out my wiew on th whole thing.

    The situation is IMO not even remotely compareble to the Mace Windu incident. Anakin acted out of greed and self-service, and he himself admits this ("I cannot live without her").

    ROTJ Anakin (or Vader or whatever you want to call him) acted out of compassion for the life of his son. I do not belive that Vader was attached to Luke like he was Padmé, but rather came to love him unconditionally.

    The most important difference to note is that Vader willingly gave his life to save his son, something I do not believe he would have done for Padmé. She could just as well be dead if she wasn't gonna be with him as far as he was concerned.
     
  22. Darth_Laudrup

    Darth_Laudrup Jedi Master star 4

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    When Vader looks back and forth between Luke and Palpatine while Luke is being fried at the end of ROTJ there is an inner strugle. That struggle is won by Anakin Skywalker who fulfills his destiny and destroys Vader, Palpatine and thereby the Sith. This could only be accomplished by The Chosen One. Vader was not The Chosen One. Anakin was.

    This is why I believe that Anakin saved Luke and Vader didn't.
     
  23. Lukies_Girl_8594

    Lukies_Girl_8594 Jedi Youngling

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    I've always thought that Vader was Anakin's childhood imaginary freind who, after ROTS, became not that imaginary anymore. Wierd, I know, but it's true. Sue me. :p
     
  24. Darth_Hydra

    Darth_Hydra Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    May 14, 2001
    IMO it was both. Darth Vader physically and Anakin pyschologically.
     
  25. Bacon164

    Bacon164 Chosen One star 8

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    Mar 22, 2005
    I can't vote in this poll.

    Darth Vader is Anakin Skywalker. Saying otherwise contradicts the entire point of the series.
     
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