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The Masterpiece That Is Cloak of Deception

Discussion in 'Literature' started by sidious618, May 2, 2004.

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  1. sidious618

    sidious618 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Cloak of Deception is the best prequal story to date. Never before have I read a Star Wars book that has so much in it that even after three or four reads you still don't pick all of it up.
    Add to that it has a chock load of political intrigue that fits in with the action.

    Cloak of Deception is one of the greatest Star Wars books ever.

    Who eles agrees? Who disagrees?
     
  2. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    I'd agree, 'cept Shatterpoint beat it.
     
  3. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    I disagree,

    There was no plot except Sideous assassinating some Trade Federation fellows and a barely there smear charge against Vallorum.

    Oh yes and grabbing some pirates
     
  4. NJOfan215

    NJOfan215 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I read around the time it came out and liked it.
     
  5. sidious618

    sidious618 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    'cept Shatterpoint beat it

    Shatterpoint put me to sleep.

    It had almost nothing to do with the Clone Wars.
     
  6. sidious618

    sidious618 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    There was no plot except Sideous assassinating some Trade Federation fellows and a barely there smear charge against Vallorum.

    Oh yes and grabbing some pirates


    What about the alliance between the Sith and the TF.

    What about the taxation of the Trading corporations?

    What about the corrupted Senators plotting to take down Valorum?

    I could go on.
     
  7. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    Shatterpoint put me to sleep.

    It had almost nothing to do with the Clone Wars.


    You are beyond help. :(
     
  8. Pellaeon-Firke

    Pellaeon-Firke Jedi Knight star 5

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    I read it, and though I thought it was good, I think Rogue Planet was better. ;) Just kidding. It was quite good; I wish AoC was as good as CoD was. He might have overconvoluted the plot a little, but the Jedi cameos were nice. I want to see some more about the Senex sector in a different work.
     
  9. Darth-Seldon

    Darth-Seldon Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I was planning on reading Cloak of Deception, but I really cannot relate to this posters opinions if they think Shatterpoint was boring.

    Shatterpoint was the greatest star wars novel ever printed. Matthew Stover proved he was a genius, and it was a clone war story.

    I like political stories so I plan to read Cloak (Once I finish NJO)

    -Seldon
     
  10. sidious618

    sidious618 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    and it was a clone war story.


    Not really. It seemed more as if it just happened during the Clone Wars.

    Only the last thirty pages really dealt with the Clone Wars. The rest of the time they deal with whatever's going on on Harunn Kal. I really didn't care what was going on there.
     
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  11. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    Cloak of Deception is one of those rare things we call MATURE books. Yes, it's a genuine adult-class novel, and quite novel as well. An equal mix of ongoing intrigue, action, sneaky cameos, and a damn final twist at the end you'd never see coming. What more I could want would be selfish.

    There were a few minor faults, but only Luceno and Denning have exhibited a crafty ability: their characters speak as we would on Earth, with the native lexicon of their galaxy and verbose. It's uncanny. Smooth. I'm still fascinated at the intricate political dialogue. The outlaws' were just as goog: swift, witty, creative.

    A damn good book. A near perfect 10 I'd give it.
     
  12. peregrine

    peregrine Jedi Master star 4

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    Cloak Of Deception is still the best prequel era novel. Only after reading this book I began to really enjoy TPM (Shadow Hunter helped, too :) )
     
  13. JediTrilobite

    JediTrilobite Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Not really. It seemed more as if it just happened during the Clone Wars.


    Microcosm effect on the Jedi Order during the time. Not all things have to be really big picture events.

    CoD was an excellent novel. I'll have to re-read it.
     
  14. --Corran_Horn--

    --Corran_Horn-- Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Personally, I can't say that Cloak of Deception impressed me all that much. Compared to other SW books, it did have a great deal of political intrigue, but compared to non SW books, it was pretty simple. It was essentially the story of chasing down 1 pirate, except 300 pages long, instead of a short story. If you're interested in a book with both political intrigue and action, try some of the earlier Tom Clancy books, CoD is no match for any of them, not by a long shot.
     
  15. -RebelScum-

    -RebelScum- Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    best political starwars book out there and one of the best prequels
     
  16. darth_paul

    darth_paul Jedi Master star 5

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    Having been unable to even make it through HoT a second time because I hated all the political mess so much, and having abhorred AoC and thus far been unable even to finish TUF, I think this is not for me.

    And I definitely think Shatterpoint is the crowning moment of SW lit.

    -Paul
     
  17. tyderium1111

    tyderium1111 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    While I'm no huge fan of 'political thrillers' (even though I'm strangely a mild Clancy fan) I found CoD to be far better than I thought it would be. When I heard the premise, I thought it would be a bore fest, but when I read it, the politics almost created better tension than the action, though the action was good and necessary.

    It should also be of note that this was the first prequel book I read, so that put the prequels of to a good start in the EU department in my eyes.
     
  18. Convalescent

    Convalescent Jedi Youngling

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    I loved this book!

    Last year I picked it up with Shadow Hunter, and read them back-to-back and then popped in Episode I, and loved the movie even more...it just flows so perfect to me, one into the other.

     
  19. 7-7-7

    7-7-7 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    While CoD might not have all of the myriad sub-plots and extensive characterization like some other politically-based thrillers, it didn't have to be. It is a Star Wars novel, and therefore it was able to focus on a small number of subjects without losing face (at least in my book)

    I loved the book (could have done with reduced action sequences, but, whatever...) I found that after reading this, my appreciation for TPM jumped exponentially. If this book hadn't been released after the film, I would have said that they needed to be taken together, or you would only be getting a small part of the bigger picture. It makes so much of the seemingly simple politics and character relations of the prequel films come alive. Not only does it make TPM seem like a much grander story than what was presented on film (and probably what GL imagined it as) but it also adds quite a bit of backstory and fills in a lot of AotC (and makes that film seem much better to me, too)

    Despite being somewhat lacking when compared to the modern political thriller, it made two films which were either of so-so or poor quality improve greatly in quality and scope for me.
     
  20. OBIX1

    OBIX1 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I loved Cloak Of Deception.It's one of the best books I've ever read. Great story,and it's got the Star Wars feel to it.I high recommend it. :)


    P.S-I also think this novel slightly outdoes Shatterpoint.But I loved Shatterpoint too! :D
     
  21. Tam_Elgrin

    Tam_Elgrin Jedi Master star 4

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    I've read it thrice, and thorougly enjoyed it all three times. Especially the first time when I had absolutley no idea what the twist-ending would be, it caught me totally off-guard.
     
  22. JediTrilobite

    JediTrilobite Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    It certainly sets up for a lot. It's good to read Shadow Hunters as well, because there are a couple events that are mentioned in one of them that's in both.
     
  23. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    >> Last year I picked it up with Shadow Hunter, and read them back-to-back and then popped in Episode I, and loved the movie even more...it just flows so perfect to me, one into the other. <<

    You should add the Darth Maul comic into the mix, as the COD-DM-DMSH combination forms something of a mini trilogy lead=in to TPM.

    I also agree with the sentiment that COD does make TPM seem better. (only other piece of EU to do that, IMO, was Battle For Naboo).
     
  24. JediTrilobite

    JediTrilobite Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Yeah, that explained the entire Black Sun thing right?
     
  25. CharlieHickok-

    CharlieHickok- Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Don't you find shatterpoint to be a little to similar to Apocalypse Now?
     
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