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THE MIDI COUNT

Discussion in 'Star Wars Community' started by LordVader66, Sep 18, 2005.

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  1. LordVader66

    LordVader66 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    disregarding the supershadow site on this one.

    Anakin Skywalker-24,000
    Darth Vader-13,000
    Darth Sidious-20,000
    Luke Skywalker-18,000
    Leia-10,000
    Yoda-19,000
    Obiwan-16,000
    Mace Windu-17,000

    just watching the movies and reading things i get the sense that this is roughly what some of the characters midi counts look like.

    thoughts?

     
  2. Family_Guy

    Family_Guy Jedi Youngling star 1

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  3. Apailana

    Apailana Jedi Knight star 5

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    um... wouldnt Vader and Anakin have the same amounts?
     
  4. Master_Ti

    Master_Ti Jedi Padawan star 4

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    This is ................... interesting.

    Yep

    Interesting

    *~*Ti*~*
     
  5. JediMasterJujiFruite

    JediMasterJujiFruite Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Perhaps some died off when Anakin had his stuff chopped off. Wouldn't Mace have a higher count, closer to Palpatine, since he was able to defeat Palpy before knucklehead got involved?
     
  6. DARTH_ALRUIA

    DARTH_ALRUIA Jedi Youngling

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    Anakin Skywalker/Vader - 24,000
    Darth Sidious - 20,000
    Yoda - 19,000
    Leia/Luke - 18,000
    Mace Windu - 16,000
    Obi-Wan Kenobi - 15,000

    Mine isn't correct either. :p
     
  7. LordVader66

    LordVader66 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Darth Vader, in suit, lost a lot of his midi this is a fact, i am only reflecting that. Mace was not going to beat sidious in my opinion beause he wanted anakin to "rescue him" (but we are not discussing this. and no way luke and leia have the same count. it does not seem right to me.
     
  8. solo77

    solo77 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Arrrrr, he never defeated Palpatine :rolleyes:
     
  9. DARTH_ALRUIA

    DARTH_ALRUIA Jedi Youngling

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    Luke and Leia are twins-- Of course they have the same count, and why why would Anakin lose midichlorians when he has his limbs but out when your midi count is how many midichlorians you have in each cell. Right?
     
  10. LordVader66

    LordVader66 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    all i am doing is expressing my opinion, i do not believe luke and leia had the same count. this is not an offical list. also, lucus has stated that vader lost a ton of midi, i dont want to go into it here though, im sure you can find something in another thread.
     
  11. Cloned_Sidious

    Cloned_Sidious Jedi Knight star 8

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    I don't believe a word of that list.
     
  12. Three-Eight

    Three-Eight Jedi Grand Master star 4

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  13. Mikaboshi

    Mikaboshi Force Ghost star 6

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    "lucus has stated that vader lost a ton of midi"

    Where did he state this? I have never heard anything like that, ever. If your reference is SS then you need to disregard everything you heard there, all of it is lies and he does not in fact know GL.

    Nothing has ever been released about anyones midi count, and there is no point in speculating on it since in the end it is based on nothing.
     
  14. Grand_Moff_Jawa

    Grand_Moff_Jawa Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Midi Schmidi. There's only The Force.
     
  15. NightHunter319

    NightHunter319 Jedi Master star 4

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    Supershadow junk
     
  16. LemmingLord

    LemmingLord Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Amen brother.
     
  17. Mandalorian-Jedi

    Mandalorian-Jedi Jedi Youngling star 3

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    And again.


    Luke is all-powerful and all-owning.


    Beleive it.
     
  18. DarthKakarot

    DarthKakarot Jedi Youngling star 5

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    Luke: 30,000 *and rising*
    Anakin: 20,000
    Mace: 25,000
    Yoda: 24,000
    Qui-Gon: 15,000
    Obi-Wan: 19,500

    Sidious: 25,000
    Vader;
    Pre-Suit: 24,000
    Suited: 18,000
    Dooku: 17,000
    Maul: 16,000
     
  19. flyingseal

    flyingseal Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Please, Star Wars characters ain't Pokémons...
     
  20. masterjedi343

    masterjedi343 Jedi Master star 5

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    what is a "MIDI COUNT" :confused: [face_thinking]
     
  21. Mikaboshi

    Mikaboshi Force Ghost star 6

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    ^ Midichlorian count, remember back to TPM, that is what Qui-Gon tested Anakin for on Tattoine. As stated in the film, Anakin has the highest Midi count of all Jedi, even master Yoda. Each person is born with a set number of midichlorians, and they remain constant throughout that persons life, that is what gives a person an inate connection to the Force.
     
  22. LordVader66

    LordVader66 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    darth k your idea is seriously flawed. luke cannot have more midis then anakin, anakin was supposed to become the greatest force user ever. therefore not one can surpass him in the midi count. you are born with a certian number of midis it does not change throught your life, unless you were in a stitution like vader where he lost a lot of his midis after the battle with obiwan.
     
  23. Mandalorian-Jedi

    Mandalorian-Jedi Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Tell me where is says that.
     
  24. Mikaboshi

    Mikaboshi Force Ghost star 6

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    Read this, here. It also states that Vader losing his limbs has nothing to do with his Mastery over the force, he is as powerful as a partial machine as he was as a full human.

    Remember also that midichlorians are counted per cell, thus a 20,000 midi-count means that a user has 20,000 midichlorians per cell, rather than 20,000 total midichlorians in his/her body. This level remains consistant throughout ones life, regardless of how many limbs one loses.


    "These are the natural routes to strength: either by genetic heritage or self-effort at reaching a goal. But what about a quick way to that strength? Would that be as effective? In the Star Wars saga, would simply adding more midi-chlorians to your body give you more strength in the Force?

    With the red corpuscle analogy, there is a dangerous trick that some young athletes, too obsessed with winning, have done with this. They have removed their own blood and stored for a few days. The body replaces the lost red cells. Just before they compete in their event, the stored blood is injected back into the body, adding more capacity for oxygen. During the Eighties there were cases of athletes injuring themselves, sometimes fatally, from complications following this procedure. (WARNING: TheForce.net does not recommend trying this and in fact warns against it! This has been mentioned for illustration purposes only!)

    Would adding midi-chlorian rich blood make you more Force-powerful? Let's suppose that Palpatine decides he wants to get STRONGER with the Force. You know how these egomaniacal dictators get: there's just never enough to satisfy these guys. He calls in Darth Vader and, ahem, "suggests" that Vader make a donation to the Imperial bloodbank. We already know from Obi-Wan's analysis in TPM that Anakin's blood has more midi-chlorians than has been ever recorded, "over twenty thousand". If the mitochondria angle holds, then that means that there are over 20,000 midi-chlorians per cell! Which might be possible, as mitochondria are among the smallest of the organelles: several thousands of mitochondria are packed into most heart and muscle cells. It follows, Palpy thinks, that adding more midi-chlorian rich blood to his own will "pump him up", so he takes Vader's donation, runs an IV into his scrawny little wrist and lets the juices flow.

    But if midi-chlorians are an adaptation to a person's cellular generation of the Force, then those midi-chlorians are unique to that person, and ONLY that person! Palpatine might be getting a transfer of Anakin's midi-chlorians, but without Anakin's natural strength in the Force flowing through his midi-chlorians, there is no added power at all: it would be like harnessing the strength of a babbling brook with Hoover Dam. Palpatine gets Vader's blood, but not much else (apart from nausea, we would hope).

    If Palpatine wouldn't get stronger with more midi-chlorians, would Anakin become weaker with fewer? At age nine, he's in robust health for a little boy. In about twelve years or so, we know that Anakin suffers trauma at the hands of his former mentor, Obi-Wan. Stuff like the mother of all lightsaber battles and molten pits tend to cause one to lose a limb or two, massive thoraic injury requiring a walking iron-lung for life, and if Return of the Jedi is any indication, incredible injury to the skull and spine. Since Anakin has lost so much of his original body, does it follow that he's lost some of his talent with the Force? By every indication, not at all! The cells that Anakin retains still have their abundance of midi-chlorians, giving him as much contact with the Force as ever. Again, the Force becomes a study of inter-relationships at the smallest level. If Anakin did not maintain his strength, he would not have fulfilled the prophecy of "bringing balance to the Force," since he is said by Lucas to have been the only one who could have destroyed the Emperor.

    If transfusion of midi-chlorians wouldn't work, then how about replication? If a Jedi or a Sith were to
     
  25. masterjedi343

    masterjedi343 Jedi Master star 5

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    thankyou despised :)
     
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