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The names of all Seven Lightsaber Forms

Discussion in 'Literature' started by DARTH_MARK-22, May 3, 2005.

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  1. DARTH_MARK-22

    DARTH_MARK-22 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I know there are seven different lightsaber forms, but up until recently I knew them as only Form I to Form VII. Upon reading choice Clone Wars sources, I've discovered that Form VII is known as "Vapaad".

    So I want to know is:

    Aside from Vapaad, what else is there?
    What is Form I to Form VI known as?
    Where would I find the source of the official names of these forms?
    Also, if possible, if anyone knows the names of any particular moves and techniques (apparently chopping off a person in half a-la what Obi-Wan did to Darth Maul apparently has an official title), then I'd be happy to find out what those are as well.

    Any help would be appreciated.
     
  2. Darth_Rags

    Darth_Rags Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Go here http://jediarchives.bejedi.com/index.php?c=fighting_styles

     
  3. DARTH_MARK-22

    DARTH_MARK-22 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Thanks for the assist, but that much I already knew. I have Insider #62, I believe, where it lists the seven forms and describes each in turn.

    However, I'd like to know the official name of all these forms, if there are any. As far as I know, Form VII ("Vapaad") is the only one that has a title.
     
  4. JediAlly

    JediAlly Jedi Grand Master star 4

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  5. Occo_Ninebar

    Occo_Ninebar Jedi Youngling

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    It's now in the TF.N encyclopedia. But just to list 'em here:

    Shii-Cho (Form I): Offensive/defensive balance. Standard stuff. Pretty much the "medium" style from Jedi Outcast, as well as the fundamental basis of all lightsaber combat.

    Makashi (Form II): Offensive/defensive balance. Focuses on minimal, fluid motion and melee combat--as such, the only reason it still exists is because it is excellent for lightsaber duels.

    Soresu (Form III): Primarily defensive. Focuses on quick movement and quicker reflexes. Primarily for countering blaster fire, though one would think it would also be somewhat effective in lightsaber duels.

    Ataru (Form IV): Primarily offensive or defensive at any given time; nearly impossible to aim for both. Mainly focuses on acrobatics and sheer strength in wielding the blade. With a human-size Jedi, it has vast weaknesses--the blade is too consistently on the offensive for any good defense to be set up. Smaller Jedi, such as Yoda, though, are remarkably effective with Ataru.

    Shien (Form V): Offensive/defensive balance. Essentially a combination of Soresu and Ataru that makes up for the weaknesses inherent in both. Origin of the technique of deflecting blaster fire back at an opponent.

    Niman (Form VI): Offensive/defensive balance. Very advanced combination of Shii-Cho, Makashi, Ataru, and Shien. If anything, it can be described as primarily tactical, and is useful for forcing a duel to a bloodless stalemate--the preferred end for any combat. Often takes as long as 40-50 years to master.

    Vaapad (Form VII): Highly, highly offensive. It is technically called Juyo, but account after account of observers comparing the technique to the tentacled Sarapini predator has made Vaapad the almost universal name. Focuses on sheer speed and power, knocking an opponent off guard and keeping him there. Training for and using Vaapad is often described as 'skirting the edge of the Dark Side'. Invented (and adapted into an equally powerful hand-to-hand technique) by Mace Windu. Not to be confused with other 'alternative' forms of lightsaber combat such as use of a saberstaff.

    NOTE: Use of dual lightsabers, as well as certain types of saberstaff techniques, is not considered to be a specific form in itself. Rather, it is generally a refinement of one of the first six. (Mace Windu is the only living master of Vaapad.)
     
  6. NJOfan215

    NJOfan215 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    niman is not form 6. It isn't even a real form. Check out the hero's guid web enhancements
     
  7. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Form VI is actually an inferior form to all the rest.




    Juyo is the proper name for Form VII. Vaapad is merely an extra set of moves added, as well as a shift in "mindset".

    Incidentally, Form V is alternatively known as Djem So. More properly, it would be considered a far more advanced form of Form V. Shien is simply aggressive and more associated with deflection, while Djem So is actually kinetic lightsaber combat.
     
  8. Short_Round

    Short_Round Jedi Youngling star 1

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    (Mace Windu is the only living master of Vaapad.)

    Actually, Depa Billaba, his former padawan, and former Jedi Master serving on the council is a master of Vaapad. Mace even made a comment along the lines of her actually having mastered it greater than himself. After "Shatterpoint", Depa was left in a coma, but she is supposedly still alive at the time of ROTS.
     
  9. Suzuki_Akira

    Suzuki_Akira Jedi Master star 7

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    Occo_Ninebar posted on 5/6/05 10:20pm
    (Mace Windu is the only living master of Vaapad.)
    [hr][/blockquote]

    *cough*Depa*cough*Sora*cough*Luke*cough*
     
  10. Short_Round

    Short_Round Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I know Mace and Sora created Vaapad, but didn't form VII eventually make Sora Bulq fall to the dark side? Also, where did you read that Luke uses Vaapad? I thought he used that form Yoda used, IV or V right?. I may be wrong, and I may have read that from Supershadow, so who knows.
     
  11. KenKenobi

    KenKenobi Chosen One star 6

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    Luke uses Form V, but by TUF he's basically just using the "I'll kick your ******* ass if you try to fight me"-Form.
     
  12. Suzuki_Akira

    Suzuki_Akira Jedi Master star 7

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    Otherwise known as Form VIII. I have decided that Form VIII should be entitled: "...Pfft" because at that point its laughable that he'd actually have to pull out his saber.
     
  13. Short_Round

    Short_Round Jedi Youngling star 1

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    what is teh?
     
  14. razzy1319

    razzy1319 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    What form does obiwan use on grievious? the one where he points with two fingers..
     
  15. Suzuki_Akira

    Suzuki_Akira Jedi Master star 7

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    razzy1319 posted on 5/20/05 4:49pm
    What form does obiwan use on grievious? the one where he points with two fingers..
    [hr][/blockquote]


    Damn your god damn spoilers. Don't you ****ing realize that not everyone has seen the god damn movie yet? What the hell is wrong with you?
     
  16. KenKenobi

    KenKenobi Chosen One star 6

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    If everyone doesn't be nice to each other in here, I'm gonna have to break out Luke's "I'll kick your ******* ass"-Form.... [face_mischief] :p
     
  17. razzy1319

    razzy1319 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Oops.... never thought that was spoiler, though it was senseless trivia... sorry...
     
  18. Thanos6

    Thanos6 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    What about Exar Kun's and Darth Maul's double-bladed fighting? Is there anything for that?
     
  19. KenKenobi

    KenKenobi Chosen One star 6

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    Well, Maul used Form VII (Juyo, not to be confused with the Advanced Form of Juyo that is Vaapad).
     
  20. Thanos6

    Thanos6 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Hmm. You'd expect something so advanced and different as double-bladed fighting to be its own style.
     
  21. Darth_Chronos

    Darth_Chronos Jedi Youngling

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    Not to give out any spoilers for Ep 3, but what form does the Emperor use, I'm assuming form 4?
     
  22. KenKenobi

    KenKenobi Chosen One star 6

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    Well, Nick Gillard is on record as saying that "Sidious is a master of every weapon and every style."
     
  23. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Juyo, not to be confused with the Advanced Form of Juyo that is Vaapad


    Alternate form would be better--they're pretty dissimilar. The only commonality is mindset, really.

    As for Palpatine, according to Gillard, he uses everything. We can't get into spoilers here, but he's pretty fluid and I'd suggest that he uses Sithly Juyo as a base, but really constructs his own style that fits his personality. That, incidentally, is precisely what I think Luke did in TUF. It's not one of the seven forms, but it's not a Form VIII either--since it's his own personal form, and not something that can really be taught.
     
  24. Senator_Cilghal

    Senator_Cilghal Jedi Master star 5

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    WHat language are lightsabre form names supposed to be in? They sure aren't Galactic Standard.

    Whill? Classical Ossan?
     
  25. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    You mean they're not Basic. They could very well be Galactic Standard, or even the ancient High Galactic.
     
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