The Non-Human Races and Organizations of KOTOR

Errrr....I'm going to take a chance with this one. Yeah, I know that it is another KOTOR thread but I believe that this one is in it's own way unqiue and really can't fit into any other general KOTOR thread.

This thread is about the discussion of the Non-Human races of KOTOR. Unlike all other Star Wars videogames (Besides Galaxies), KOTOR and KOTOR 2 are diverse games in terms of representing the Star Wars galaxy as a whole. With that being said, on your journey as Revan in KOTOR and The Exile in KOTOR 2, you run across many Alien races, some we've seen before and some that are new such as the Rakata and Selkath of KOTOR.

Each and every Non-Human race has a particualar aspect/trait about them that can be applied to all of the individuals under that race. Take the Ithorians as an example. Throughout KOTOR and KOTOR 2 they are protrayed as laid back individuals who can really be ran over at times. They're innocent and really has no knowledge of combat. They want to heal the galaxy and spread peace and joy to everyone. I personally find these creatures annoying and I tend to gather up plenty of Darkside points with these guys.

Then you have the Rodians. These individuals throughout KOTOR and KOTOR 2 are portrayed as the snakes, the snitches, and the liers/cheaters. They don't car for anyone else, hell they don't even car for their own race. They care for themselves and only themselves. They will use you to their advantage and break you down later on. In the end, they're made out to be bad guys, not good guys.

I could go on and on and possibly publish a novel about this but I will just stop here. I don't want to out do James Luceno or Matt Stover in terms of novel sales.

However I will tell you that my favorite race in the KOTOR games are the Rakata. While they weren't in KOTOR 2, the Rakata are a new race created by Bioware and I must say that the Rakata has to be one of the more interesting groups of people in general Star Wars. Even up there with the Jedi. The Rakata has been in existence way before the creation of the Republic. Their place in the galaxy is really interesting. In KOTOR you get to read up about their history and whatnot, but it still doesn't tell you everything. Its like there is more to explore and I would love if some author took the time to give us some Rakata EU Novels pre and post KOTOR generations. They are a smart race....highly intelligent. They are like a symbol of how the Ancient Greeks/Egyptians/Aztecs were. Not only intelligent, but great warriors as well.

When it is all said and done, this is why I and many others label KOTOR as the best Star Wars game of all time. It goes beyond just the Jedi aspect of things, the battle aspect of things, the space aspect of things. KOTOR is like a full representation of what Star Wars is all about in literally and non literally. Everything from factions such as the Sith, Republic, Czerka Corporation to the races such as Human, Rodian, and Ithorian along with their general personalities then to locations such as the beautiful Unknown planet, the historic Korriban, Kashyyyk underworld, aquatic Mannan, and the Taris metropolis.

However to keep things on topic, this thread is about the concept of Non-Human races in KOTOR/KOTOR 2. How do you view them? Which ones are your favorite? etc etc etc.

 

The Rakata, probably because they were the ones that were elaborated most of and their backstory was very interesting.

 

And where can this The New Essential Chronology be found?

 

Any decent sized book store should carry it. I think I saw it at Barnes and Noble the other day.

 

Don't forget about Mandalorians, Iridorians, Wookies, Durros, Hutts.

 

I think all of you will be dissapointed when you read the description of the Rataka Band in KOTOR 2.












They were created to help people discern their truths from their lies. The Rataka were a jealous race of liars who have claimed credit for nearly every major architectural marvel in the galaxy. This is open to dispute because it might just be from an outsiders view of the Rataka who simply assumed they couldn't have built the Starforge.

I hear there's also a really bad spelling error in the description, too.

 

Don't forget that weird race that sells things in the tationee loading dock and in the corner of the Tris Cantina with the two heads.

 

How many damn KOTOR threads are there gonna be?

 

I like the Twi'lek, 'cause Mission is cute.

 

One thousand three hundred and thirty seven.

 

There are also rakghouls - becouse they are transformed humans.

 

KOTOR and KOTOR 2 are both expansive game with so much that is covered in them. This thread only highlights that idea. If this was just another KOTOR thread, then I believe that the moderators would close it.

....Obviously they haven't yet. Hell, even a moderator replied in this thread. No, I take that back. TWO moderators replied to it and didn't have anything negative to say about it. I don't see a problem, everyone else doesn't see a problem, the moderators doesn't see a problem...its up, its going, its different from just a typical KOTOR thread and thats all that matters.

 

Go count how many KOTOR threads there are. ITS A GAME!!! JUST A GAME!!

Edit: there are 5 threads about KOTOR on this page alone.

 

Are you saying it doesn't deserve five threads?

 

Says the person who has spent many many months and time in this Forum talking about BF2 and debating about how it is the best SW game of all time....

Yeah, we know that its just a game. However it is a game that most of us here greatly enjoy. So that means that we love talking about it.

Yeah, there are many KOTOR threads....so what? The moderators hasn't said anything about it so obviously they aren't getting in the way. If you don't like them, then just don't reply in them....simple as that. I can understand if each new KOTOR thread was another "KOTOR is the best game ever!!!!" but it isn't. Each thread has a unique quality to it. This talks about the non-human races, another talks about the possibility of a SE version of KOTOR and KOTOR 2, another talks about how much does KOTOR 2 advance over KOTOR, and so on.

The KOTOR games are just too expansive to be held within a General thread like the BF2 thread. There is so much material in it that can be explored and talked about. Which is why many of us here enjoys the games so much.

Like I just said, if it bothers you so much....why are you replying in this thread? All you are doing is bumping it back up to the top.

Oh and in the BF2 thread, you preached a lot about staying on topic. Well lets see if you can practice what you speak and stay on topic. If you don't have anything to say that relates to the non-human races of KOTOR/KOTOR 2, then don't reply. If you have something to say that doesn't relate to that topic, then take it up through PM.

Now....to get back on topic.

Mandalorians aren't a non-human race. Hell, they aren't even a race. They're just a group of men who craves battle.

This description of Rakata in KOTOR 2....where is it? Soon I'm going to go back and replay KOTOR and KOTOR 2. This time around I'll put heavy focus on the Rakata.

Yeah, the rakghouls are a race from a certain point of view. However they are unique to the Star Wars universe. Nice job Bioware!

 

Draco and DroidGeneral, don't get started in here. Remember, if you don't like the topic don't post in it or read it.

 

I'm not getting anything started. I just simply told him that if he has something to say that doesn't relate to this thread, to do it through PM and then I got right back on topic. If anything, I'm trying to stop a situation from happening.

Now, for the 2nd time, lets get back on topic....

One thing that really interested me about how KOTOR/KOTOR 2 in terms of non-human races was the fact that I learned so much about these races just from the game....not the movies or EU but from KOTOR and KOTOR 2. Take those little rat looking things that sounds like chirping birds in KOTOR 2. I never knew that they even existed in Star Wars until I played KOTOR 2. Then I went back to watch the movies and found out that they are real. That happened to me with a lot of other alien races. Again, its this aspect along with many others that makes KOTOR/KOTOR 2 such great games.

 

I've repeatedly stated that Shadows of the Empire it the greatest SW game of all time. Go back and look it up...but oh well I'll leave you guys be...

 

Thanks The2ndQuest for updating the topic header.

I decided to expand this thread to not only the Non-Human races of KOTOR, but the Organizations as well. The Czerka Corporation, The Exchange, The Mandalorians etc etc etc.

 

Then you have the Rodians. These individuals throughout KOTOR and KOTOR 2 are portrayed as the snakes, the snitches, and the liers/cheaters.


And what about Gluupor?


^ Genoharadan. I know it wasn't only non-human, but Czerka also wasn't. But I think Genoharadan was a great idea. It's a shame they didn't develop the LS of this quest. You know, saving those bosses or something.

 

Hey ladies and gents. I saw this thread and thought "how interesting," so I'm replying to it. I consider myself an Old Republic (KotOR and KotOR II era) historian of sorts, so I thought I'd throw my two cents out there for anyone who's interested.

If you speak to every Rakata possible in the Elders' tribe on light side, and then go back and side with The One and speak to every single Rakata possible in their tribe too, and if you sap every little bit of info out of every Rakatan computer (and holograms too, i.e. on the Shadowland floor of Kashyyyk) that you can, you'll find that the history and back story is quite complete. (and don't forget to check Casus' diary on the plains of Dantooine, ha ha) Now I've organized and taken down what I think to be a pretty complete history of this era, and much of it focuses on the Rakata, since in effect, they are the reason for KotOR's existence. If anyone wants a copy, hit me back. Are we allowed to give out emails on here? Mods? Anyone? Oh well, if we're not, I guess they'll edit it out. Anyone who wants the history of the Rakata, email me at Scoundrel1100@aol.com.

Later.

Chris

(EDIT) Or hell, I have a better idea. To save everyone some headache, why don't I just answer any questions anyone has about them. My reason for doing this is because it's rather long and would take forever to read. Not only that, but this way you guys won't have to meticulously replay through the game. Let me know what you think, and I'm more than happy to answer any questions anyone might have about this historically elusive race of creatures.

 

I wish that the Rakata would have somehow made some type of appearance in KOTOR 2. I believe that EU should take it into their hands to create a novel or two about the Rakata, their race is pretty interesting.

Also has anyone here ever been to that Rakata prison in KOTOR? You know, if you open up that special box that the Hut on Tatooine gave to you?

 

That mind prison box was a very clever idea. I liked that the Rakata inside had been there so long he didn't remember who he was. I'd forget too if all I had to look at for ten thousand years was a bed, two columns, and white EVERYWHERE...

The Rakata mentions that the most recent "company" he's had were the two before the PC opens the box. These were the two that he said just wandered off into the vast whiteness. Does anyone have any guesses as to who these two people were?

Chris