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JCC The Ocean Liner, Cruise and Ship Enthusiast Thread

Discussion in 'Community' started by Chancellor_Ewok, Feb 9, 2016.

  1. Chancellor_Ewok

    Chancellor_Ewok Chosen One star 7

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    This is a discussion for ocean liner, cruise and ship enthusiasts. Here you can show off your collection of ocean liner books and memorabilia, talk about your next cruise, your last cruise or just swap sea stories.
     
  2. Yoda's_Roomate

    Yoda's_Roomate Chosen One star 5

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    My first and last cruise was in 1996 aboard the Sovereign of the Seas. Went with family and friends and had an awesome time. Spent a week visiting the islands of the Caribbean, the food was great, everything was great. I haven't gone on any other just because, well, I don't know why because I had a great time. I'm sure I'll get around to it again at some point.

    My point is being on a cruise is great fun.
     
  3. Chancellor_Ewok

    Chancellor_Ewok Chosen One star 7

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    Yeah, a cruise can be great experience on the right ship. I've done three with Cunard, the QE2, the Queen Mary and Queen Victoria and one with Princess, the Regal Princess. We're doing another Princess cruise in June, this time to Alaska.
     
  4. Diggy

    Diggy Chosen One star 8

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    Our first was on Carnival, the second on Royal Caribbean. Then we took a Disney Cruise and it was a level above. We had our fourth Disney cruise last month and are planning the fifth. I doubt we'll cruise with anyone else. The service and shows are so damn good. The kids club is amazingly good - I wanted to stay and play in this:

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    But I couldn't.

    DCL is also the only line that can shoot fireworks, which makes for a very good show on Pirate night.

    I also love seeing Disney characters (except Pooh and co) walking around the ship. It just makes me happy.
     
  5. Chancellor_Ewok

    Chancellor_Ewok Chosen One star 7

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    Yeah, I hear that Disney is amazing. I actually got to see some the Disney ships last March and they looked like beautiful classic ocean liners, as opposed to a lot of other ships which just look like an apartment building on its side.
     
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  6. Diggy

    Diggy Chosen One star 8

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    I first saw one docked when we were on our first cruise, previously not even knowing Disney had ships. Seeing it, I immediately wanted to go on it, but the mrs resisted. Then we had a daughter and I had my excuse to push for it :p
     
  7. Darth Punk

    Darth Punk JCC Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    I used to be a pirate. On my first voyage, one of the other pirates told me about this barrel with a hole in, that they kept below deck. If you used your imagination, that barrel felt just like a real woman. I was down there every day. Then one day, they woke me up at 6am, and said "today is your day in the barrel".
     
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  8. Rylo Ken

    Rylo Ken Chosen One star 7

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    I've done three cruises with my kids and elderly parents. One on Carnival, two on Royal Caribbean. Never on their largest ships. I did it so the kids could spend time with their grandparents, but my parents are now too frail to do it comfortably, and I wouldn't do one again. Once would have been plenty for me. Did see Mayan ruins (Xunantunich) in Belize that I probably would never have done on my own otherwise, and that was nice. Some excursions we did were really awful. The range of quality has been extreme.

    I'm a hiker and a walker, and I prefer vacations where I can walk a city or hike a landscape for a day or two at a time.
     
  9. AmySolo

    AmySolo Jedi Knight star 4

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    Why not? Please tell me it's not because adults are not allowed, that would be so unfair xD
     
  10. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    I prefer traveling on Cunarders. They've got the only real ocean liner still in service, plus faux-liners too. Sadly I've not yet had the chance to sail on the QM2 but I've been aboard QM as a museum ship. Love it.

    Sailed in QV a while bank though. Loved the Art Deco theming.

    I've been on other cruise ships too but I'm not a huge fan of those so much. Excursion quality on other lines wasn't great, but I generally prefer doing my own thing than a guided excursion when I can.

    Do they? Huh, that's unexpected. I'd have expected the Disney ones to feel the most commercial. I guess the Disney emphasis on Show makes them want to simulate real liners? Interesting.

    I have to admit that as a Disneyphile it's hard not to be tempted by those.


    Missa ab iPhona mea est.
     
  11. Diggy

    Diggy Chosen One star 8

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    Yeah, it's just for kids. They do have open hours, I think two hours maybe once on the cruise? I couldn't make it, though.
     
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  12. Diggy

    Diggy Chosen One star 8

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    What's the big differences between a liner and cruise ship?
     
  13. Rylo Ken

    Rylo Ken Chosen One star 7

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    is it that a liner is officially in the business of transporting people from one place to another as opposed to the "closed loop" of vacation cruises?
     
  14. Diggy

    Diggy Chosen One star 8

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    That's it? I assumed there was some design difference.
     
  15. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    The technical difference is that an ocean liner is meant to transport across scheduled line service like in the olden days, while cruise ships are meant to stay on regional, recreational cruises. Liners have a more traditional shape instead of the stacked apartment look, are reinforced to withstand stormy transatlantic crossings, and are much quicker.

    Cunard's Queen Mary 2 is the only operational liner, a one-off design. Their other ships are reinforced cruise ships of a standard class also used by other cruise lines.

    That's the main difference, and the only *real* one. But it's also a difference in style Bc of Cunard Line's age. Cunard operates like an old school liner and maintains the traditional styling and design. Naturally nobody actually goes on those ships for transport, so they do have a lot of typical cruise ship features too.

    But it's basically just that old school tradition that appeals to me. The audience skews European and travel-savvy, less of a party ship and more of a leisure/travel ship. I imagine its not that different for other excursion oriented lines but I like it.

    My experience is representative only of a European cruise though (but I understand transatlantics are similar.)

    I didn't know that Disney tries to capture the same vibe but it makes perfect sense. Even though they operate cruise ships, I think people still think of the golden age of liners etc anyway so they'd want to evoke that vibe too. That's cool.


    Missa ab iPhona mea est.
     
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  16. cubman987

    cubman987 Friendly Neighborhood Saga/Music/Fun & Games Mod star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    I've been on 2 Carnival cruises with my wife, one to the Bahamas and one to Cozumel/ Yucatan Peninsula. We had fun both times, there are plenty of fun things to do on the ships themselves, with pretty much all the food you can eat. On our trip to the Bahamas my wife got pulled up on stage for the magic/comedy show and then he started making fun of me for working at Sears (my college job) so that was pretty great. The excursions we did were mostly good, in the Bahamas our snorkeling got cancelled due to low visibility so we did a booze cruise instead, it was fun enough and the beach we went to was really nice. I really enjoyed going to see some Mayan ruins on the Mexico cruise and we had a good snorkeling excursion on that trip as well. The one downside is that you are really limited in how much you can do based on how long the ship will be docked at any of the stops.

    It will probably be a while before we go on another cruise but I'm pretty sure the next one we do will be a Disney cruise based on the good things we have heard.
     
  17. LAJ_FETT

    LAJ_FETT Tech Admin (2007-2023) - She Held Us Together star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I've had a bit of fun with the Cruisin.me website and the port webcams. Here's Genoa, for example. (Note that the cam can be flaky after dark there). I haven't really explored the site outside of the cam section but I figured it's a good fit for this thread.
     
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  18. Diggy

    Diggy Chosen One star 8

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    GrandAdmiralJello Disney definitely try and maintain the more traditional elements with their designs. They also have nice little touches; when you board you are announced and the officers give you a round of applause, things like that.

    I've been on three of the four Disney ships. The two older ones were fantastic, the newer one even better.

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    There are three beautifully appointed restaurants for your normal dining, and two adult only restaurants for brunch and dinner, which have a $10 cover, but I highly recommend them.
     
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  19. Chancellor_Ewok

    Chancellor_Ewok Chosen One star 7

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    And you would be correct. The major difference between a liner and cruise ship is in the thickness of the steel. When I was on the QE2, on her last transatlantic crossing, one of the guests of honor Stephen Payne, the Queen Mary's chief architect and he said that walking through the cutting shed in the shipyard it was possible to visually tell what steel was meant for the Queen Mary because it was so much thicker than anything else in the yard.

    GrandAdmiralJello, yeah I would agree. Cunard has much more old school style. On the Cunard ships there's half joking half serious unofficial marketing slogan, "Recreating the golden age of the ocean liner for those who missed the first one." When people who've never heard of Cunard ask me what its like, I tell them to go watch the dinner scene from Titanic, because the Queen Mary 2 in particular on formal nights is very much like that.
     
  20. I Are The Internets

    I Are The Internets Shelf of Shame Host star 9 VIP - Game Host

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    I've never been on one. Too expensive :(
     
  21. Sarge

    Sarge 5x Wacky Wednesday winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    After Desert Storm wound down, a cruise liner docked in Bahrain and I was one of the lucky ones who got a couple days free on board for R&R. We didn't go anywhere, just stayed tied to the dock, ate real food, played tourist in Bahrain, and relaxed on board. It was a nice change of pace after months of sleeping 12 to a tent, but it's not something I'd be excited about doing again.

    This is more my style:
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    I went for a 3 day Maine windjammer cruise around Penobscot Bay in the 1871 coastal schooner Stephen Taber.
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    I thought that was a lot more fun, and the food was even better. I'd rather sit on deck and eat really really fresh lobster out of a stew pot full of seawater than a sit down formal dinner.
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    I also had an afternoon cruise aboard the Lynx, a replica of an 1812 privateer.
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    Lynx has guns. :D
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    But what I really love are the sails.
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  22. Chancellor_Ewok

    Chancellor_Ewok Chosen One star 7

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    Yeah, I've heard of those. It's kind hard not to see the appeal. You might also be interested in Star Clippers. They operate the fastest full rigged sailing ship in the world and specialize tall ship ocean cruises.
     
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  23. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    GrandAdmiralJello, is there where we can talk about the greatest warship ever to sail, the HMS Victory (as well as HMS Warrior and the Mary Rose), the best thing about Portsmouth?
     
  24. Chancellor_Ewok

    Chancellor_Ewok Chosen One star 7

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    IIRC correctly, there was a tall ship discussion thread at one point. I'm not sure what happened to it, however.
     
  25. slidewhistle

    slidewhistle Jedi Knight star 3

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    probably resting on the jcc floor
     
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