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The origin of Mara Jade's purple lightsaber (stupid ep3 theory)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Grey1, Sep 23, 2005.

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  1. Grey1

    Grey1 Host: 181st Imperial Discussion Group star 4 VIP

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    During her time as The Emperor's Hand, Mara had a purple lightsaber - and I think I know just where it came from...

    ...it's actually made from parts of Mace Windu's lightsaber!

    When Mace loses his saber (and his hand), the weapon either remains in the office or falls out of the window. [I think the novel states it's still lying around. However, if it fell out, it was simply brought back with Palpatine's saber which the elite clones were sent to retrieve from street level.]*

    Palpatine then takes the saber apart and gives the crystal to Mara. The purple color makes it look reminiscent of a red Sith saber without actually being a red Sith saber (showing her affiliation and her inferiority to the Sith at the same time), and to top it off, it's also a great insult towards Mace Windu to make his uber-saber into an assasin's weapon. Boy, I guess Mace would have had real anger management issues had he been kept a Force Ghost by the Whills.

    That is, IF there isn't something else surrounding the sudden disappearance of the Senior Jedi Council member... but I'll keep that theory for another time...o_O


    [*] ;)
    Clone Captain #1: We found your lightsaber, Your Highness.
    Palpatine: Ah, excellent... what's that? I told you mine was red, not purple!
    >bzzzt<
    Palpatine: Clone Captain #2, return to street level immediately and bring me my saber!
    Clone Captain #2: As you wish, Your Highness.
     
  2. Tiershon_Fett

    Tiershon_Fett Jedi Knight star 5

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    No. That skank ain't worthy. It's an insult to say such things. She can't even make her own lightsaber. She still uses Anakin Skywalker's. She's a lazy and pathetic Jedi and she was a lousy force user to boot, when she worked for Palps. Whioch should rule out her ever being a jedi inthe first place. She's not worthy of that either.

    I think even Palpatine has more respect for a worthy enemy than that. Mace almost killed him. I think he admires stuff like that. Warriors have strange values.
     
  3. Mavrick889

    Mavrick889 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I wonder if some of the posters on these boards ever get exhausted from spouting the same tired hyperbolic rhetoric over and over...


    Anyway, yes, Mara did build her own lightsaber. Sure, she still has Anakin's, but I'm quite sure she built her own before she recieved his. She's probably built another one since The Hand of Thrawn, come to think of it.
     
  4. Grand_Admiral_Gotti

    Grand_Admiral_Gotti Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I dont agre with this..I mean yes it is a good thought to have pass through ones head and everything but theres not enough there to create a plausible theory..these lightsabers fell to the streets of CORUSCANT!! When TTT discussed Lukes lightsaber and hand being retrieved from Bespin it was believable b/c he lost it in a sub-section of cloud city..I do believe it took a very very long time to find the damn thing but it fell into an area there were probably NOT ANY PEOPLE/ALIENS around to pick it up thus it remained in place until found, however when something like a lightsaber falls to the streets of coruscant you have two things to consider..


    1. The Imperial palace is pretty damn high up up the sky, therefore when something is knocked out of the window as small as a lightsaber it is most likely not going to fall straight down to directly below the window or the street by the imperial palace for that matter at all..the wind will carry it a nice distance before it finally finds a resting place.


    2. As busy as the streets of Coruscant and as jamed packed with the population it is I highly doubt someone seeing a thing such a alightsaber just lying there andcompeltley leaving it alone, someone would either pick it up and take it or even if it did go unoticed then it would be kicked around by walking herding corwds, blow away from its original resting place perhaps by passing speeders and what not...think about it..if you dropped a sword from the empire state building and it didnt break and lye intact or atleast a crystal that was in the sword to the streets of New York..do you really believe this crystal or entire sword ois just going to stay where it landed until you find it??
     
  5. Mavrick889

    Mavrick889 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    So, in all likelihood, there could be some individual running around the underbelly of Coruscant, brandishing Mace Windu's lightsaber?
     
  6. Grand_Admiral_Gotti

    Grand_Admiral_Gotti Jedi Youngling star 1

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    She isnt still using Anakins! Her lightsaber is Purple , which is what started this discussion..so that would mean she stopped using his and made her own I woudl think...unless of course bc I have not read the NJO so are all the pcitures depicting Mara with a purple lightsaber suppossed to be during her time with the Emperoro or during her time as a jedi master??
     
  7. Tiershon_Fett

    Tiershon_Fett Jedi Knight star 5

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    It's hard to tell Gotti, since she always looks like she's 16 years old, and always wears the same leather catsuit, with no sleeves.

    [face_plain]

    She was using the lightsaber Luke gave in the NJO.

    She didn't have any lightsaber after she got thrown in jail by Isard. She escaped from prison.

    Anyway, I agree with you. Anything Mace had was probably taken immediately from where he landed.

    I just think it's insulting for a talentless murderer to have a very great Jedi's lightsaber. She doesn't deserve it, plain and simple. Mace is too good to be mentioned in the same sentence with her, really.


    Well, she used the purple one before meeting Luke and used a blue one ever since Luke gave her Anakin's (so she probably took better care of it than the Skywalker boys)...

    Please. The Skywalkers are mighty warriors. Anakin actually led ground troops into battle. When has Mara ever led an army? Like, NEVER. Let's see her build anything that lasts many decades and still work perfectly, like HIS lightsaber or 3PO, for that matter.
     
  8. Grey1

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    Well, she used the purple one before meeting Luke and used a blue one ever since Luke gave her Anakin's (so she probably took better care of it than the Skywalker boys)... this is why I refered to her time as The Emperor's Hand...



    1. I don't see the wind carrying around an object of considerable weight in relation to a small surface to a place very far from where it falls down. And even if you could proof that a toaster would fly from the Empire State Building to New Jersey, this is Star Wars. Romantic Realism, as George Lucas puts it.

    2. I don't see any walking herding crowds stomping around the Chancellor's building after dark... or any time of day, for that. Would a crowd come and pick up a toaster that fell out of a window of the White House, or would security forces be able to retrieve the toaster?

    Also, the movie itself gives proof: When Obi-Wan loses his saber on Utapau, it falls straight to the ground instead of into the huge pool in the middle of the sinkhole.

    Thinking of it, I believe it's still more propable that the saber remained inside the office.
     
  9. Tiershon_Fett

    Tiershon_Fett Jedi Knight star 5

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    Also, the movie itself gives proof: When Obi-Wan loses his saber on Utapau, it falls straight to the ground instead of into the huge pool in the middle of the sinkhole.

    It falls right next to a clone trooper.
     
  10. Sith-Pirate

    Sith-Pirate Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Purple, Blue. To video game designers it's the same thing. I agree that mara's still using Anakin's saber. The comics show wrong lightsaber colors all the time.
     
  11. Rogue_Follower

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    >>>It's hard to tell Gotti, since she always looks like she's 16 years old, and always wears the same leather catsuit, with no sleeves. <<<

    If you remember that R2 is the one telling the SW story, then you can blame him. Artoo/Mara? :eek: [face_monkey]
     
  12. Lank_Pavail

    Lank_Pavail Jedi Knight star 7

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    Boy the astromech sure gets around. :p

    It certainly would appeal to Palpatine's sensibilities, at least IMHO. Arguably the sabre of the man whom had him fought to a standstill, now being used by one of his (many) 'trusted' (since Ol' Palpy trusted one person, and he pitched him down a reactor shaft) assasins/spies. One the other hand, I think he'd have kept the sabre intact and display it prominently somehwere, especially a place where Vader could see it and remember the turns he made to become the monster he was.

     
  13. Mavrick889

    Mavrick889 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    She didn't have any lightsaber after she got thrown in jail by Isard. She escaped from prison.


    Nope. The escape from Coruscant issue is # 3, and she still has it in issues 4 - 6.
     
  14. DarthQuellonis

    DarthQuellonis Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Mace would have come back to life... to haunt Mara.
     
  15. JacenSolo48

    JacenSolo48 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Mace did not almost beat Palpatine. He may have won the duel part fair and square, but Palpatine could have finished him off without his lightsaber. He only faked weakness so that Anakin would turn on Mace and turn to the Dark Side. I mean, look at how he blasted Mace. With the lightning, Palpatine lifted him up into the air and threw him several yards in a straight line before gravity took over and he fell to the ground. Mace got owned. I like Mara and hope she did get his lightsaber and/or crystal and do not think it an insult to Mace to suggest as much, but even if it were an insult, that would be fine with me. Mace is pseudo-Dark Side scum who deserves to be insulted. God bless. -JacenSolo48
     
  16. Mandalorian_Crusader

    Mandalorian_Crusader Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Mace doesn't deserve to be compared favourably with Elan Sleazebaggano.
     
  17. JediBrain

    JediBrain Jedi Youngling star 1

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    The more I think about the whole PT, the more I realize that Kyp is simply Mace Windu, but white and a little more whiny.

    Mace, if you ask me, is one of the most interesting PT Jedi. Simply because he is not the perfect ideal lightsider. He just strikes me as always riding and edge between what he knows is right, and what he knows is wrong. Makes him interesting.

    Kyp, unfortunately, is much more flat than that.

    That said, I think the lightsaber flew out the window. There was some major suction going on from the wind whipping by outside. I also don't see how that thing could have survived the fall. We're talking a fall that was measured in kilometers, and the thing's aren't indestructible.

    It was posted above that the Emperor got his saber back. Is that true? I thought he never had one in the OT.

    Brian
     
  18. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Chosen One star 7

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    Just because we didn't see Palps with a saber in the OT doesn't mean he didn't have one.
     
  19. Vindaxxus

    Vindaxxus Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    He would have had to get it back to face Yoda...
     
  20. -RebelScum-

    -RebelScum- Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    What about Anakins? Or Corrans (double lengh)

    Mace isn't as original as people think ;)

    -The Scummy-
     
  21. jSarek

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    Here's the history of Mara's lightsabers, which I originally posted here:

    Mara's original lightsaber, the one she used while an Emperor's Hand, was violet. She lost this one while fleeing Lumiya at some point.

    She went without a saber until Luke gave her Anakin's; this one, of course, was blue.

    Shortly thereafter, Mara pursued her Force studies, but not wanting charity from Skywalker, agreed to become a "reciprocal apprentice" with Kyle Katarn. Part of her studies with him included building a lightsaber; recalling her old saber, she chose a violet crystal for her new one.

    This saber, however, was apparently lost or retired at some point, as by the time of the Hand of Thrawn duology, she was back to using Anakin's lightsaber, which she has been using ever since.


    So, yes, she did have her purple saber after fleeing Isard (she recovered it while she was in Isard's office during her escape), and she did later construct her own saber; why she doesn't still use it has yet to be revealed, though. As for the pictures of of Mara in catsuit with purple saber, that is indeed a shot of her serving as the Emperor's Hand; it was originally made for a Decipher CCG card depicting her at that time in her life.
     
  22. Ender Sai

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    Tiershon, you should save yourself some time and just link to other posts where you make the same Mara bashing statements without bothering to contribute to the spirit and purpose of the thread. Because frankly, your posts do not at all discuss the merits of Grey1's theory but say stuff even I've heard before - and I'm not a lit regular by any stretch.

    Grey1, it's an interesting theory, and one that neatly fits into the histories without contradicting anything, but I'd say given the EU's casual disregard for Lucas' "blue/green" dichotomy, it's safer to say it's not Mace's blade. :)

    E_S
     
  23. Excellence

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    Did you get that info from NEGTC? Her saber was ruby in her comic.
     
  24. jSarek

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    I got this history from a number of sources, including the New Essential Guide to Characters, The Emperor's Pawns (in Gamer #5), Mara Jade: By the Emperor's Hand, The Last Command, Vision of the Future, the Mysteries of the Sith instruction manual, the Star Wars Customizable Card Game, and the Dark Forces articles.

    And, as I mentioned here, the saber is violet in the comic in most places, at least to my eyes. Either way, I trust the combination of its depiction in the live-action images and its description in the NEGtC over the comics, which have been dubiously colored in the past.
     
  25. Quiet_Mandalorian

    Quiet_Mandalorian Jedi Master star 5

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    Arrogant and actically retarded is interesting?:confused:

    What about Lucas' constantly bending his own rules more and more? You know, first only blue for Jedi, red for Sith, then blue and green for Jedi, then blue and green and purple....
     
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