The reason Darth Vader Saved Luke

When anakins mother died he said something.

What was that?
" wasn't strong enough to save you, Mom. I wasn't
strong enough. But I promise I won't fail again... I miss you so much. "


But I promise I won't fail again


He didnt want to fail again with padme. He wanted to save her. HE wanted to stop people from dying.

Anakin ep 2 " I should be! Someday I will be... I will be
the most powerful Jedi ever! I promise you, I will even
learn to stop people from dying."

EPSIDOE 3:
PALPATINE: I thought not. It's not a story the Jedi would tell you. It's a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence the midi-chlorians to create life ... He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying.

ANAKIN: He could actually save people from death?

PALPATINE: The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.

ANAKIN: What happened to him?

PALPATINE: He became so powerful . . . the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. (smiles) Plagueis never saw it coming. It's ironic he could save others from death, but not himself.

ANAKIN: Is it possible to learn this power?


he we see that anakin wanted to stay true to him word.

With Padme mostly. He turned to the Dark side cause of this, but this feeling gave him benfits.


Luke was one he cared about, one he loved - his son.

He was dying.

He promised he would not let the ones hee loved die. he stoped it and killed the one who caused all his deaths.


--that seems reasonably correct dont you say??

 

You got it.

 

:::--that seems reasonably correct dont you say??

Well, at least he never Force-choked Luke.

I don't know if Vader loved Luke, he only saw him as an object, the same way he saw Padme as an object; they were both objects that would help him to gain complete dominatance of the Galaxy.

Anakin, however, truly, deeply (what have you) loved Padme, Luke, and even Leia, and wanted, as you say, to *save* them... as it turns out, he mostly should have been trying to to save them from the darker part of himself.

 

Spot on. Vader was a corupted, evil killing machine. Anakin, was hidden under all that. Whay goes up, must come down. Fear of lossing his loved ones' drove him to the dark side, fear of lossing them wil drive him back.

Vader, didn't love.

Anakin did.

Cheers_Cazza

 

Nice call!!! ...

 

I don't think the promise had anything to do with it. It; like most of the storyline regarding his family gives us a clue as to Anakin's character which reinforces why he chose to save Luke at the last moment. I think the compassion for him began when he revealed that he was his father. At their next confrontation Vader already knows he won't bring himself to kill him; but true to the Sith way he tries to turn him and reforge the order into a family heritage.

"It is too late for me son." Vader ROTJ

Once he'd been defeated he had no alternative but to save Luke from the Emperor. Alot of this is happening in the subconscious and really we're dealing with two characters stuggling against each other: Vader and Anakin.

 

Perhaps it has nothing to do 100% with it ... But it is a really good connection about the kind conflict Anakin Skywalker had before and after becoming Darth Vader ... Why would you think Vader saved Luke from the Emperor??? Would he even let his son die???

Luke: I feel the good in you!!!

 

At first, Vader wanted to keep Luke alive so that he could grow stronger and that they could both strike down Palpatine and rule the galaxy. But then Anakin came crawling back inside of Vader causing him to once again love. Anakin's love is stronger than Vader's hate.

 

A little off-topic here, but did anyone notice Jedi promises tend to come true?

ANAKIN: I will come back and free you mom, I promise.

He does, just a little too late.


QUI-GON: Anakin will become a Jedi, I promise you.


AMIDALA: Senator Palpatine fears the Federation wish to destroy me.
QUI-GON: I promise you, I will not let that happen.


QUI-GON: Obi-Wan promise... promise me you will train the boy.
OBI-WAN: Yes, Master...


OBI-WAN: You will be a Jedi, Anakin. I promise.


ANAKIN: We will find out who's trying to kill you Padme. I promise you.



PADME: I'm not going to die in childbirth Annie, I promise you.
ANAKIN: No, I promise you.

Technically she doesn't die in childbirth.


ANAKIN: Wait for me until I return. Things will be different, I promise.

Things are different when they next meet, but for the worse.



A Sith promise, however, doesn't seem good for much:

NUTE GUNRAY: The plan has gone as you had promised my Lord.

NUTE GUNRAY: Lord Sidious promised us peace!

DOOKU (to OBI-WAN): I promise I will petition immediately to have you set free.

 

Interesting after reading this thread how Vader/Anakin seem like a schizophrenic personality. You really see the beginning of the Vader personality around the time of the Sandpeople slaughter, then the true Anakin personality begins to resurface as Vader sees Luke face to face before dueling in ROTJ.
I felt this was where HC did a great acting job in ROTS, you can almost hear the internal conflict in Anakin/Vader's head when he delivers certain lines.

 

Darth Vader didn't save Luke. Anakin Skywalker did.

 

Exactly.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Some claim that you can't seperate the two (Anakin and Vader) but I think there's a distinct seperation of the two when Anakin kills Palpatine to save Luke.

Which he did because he loved Luke.

 

How could Anakin Skywalker save Luke in ROTJ if, as Lucas says, Anakin "dies in ROTS"?

 

Perhaps Anakin represents the mythological Phoenix that dies consumed in fire and is reborn from the ashes as a stronger Phoenix than it was?

 

Speaking of Vader never having force-choked Luke, what if he did?! Holy cow. I can imagine Luke choking, starting to sink to his knees...then throwing out his hand and force-pushing Vader into a wall. To the extreme shock of Vader.


Wow.


*random comment of the night ended*

 

Yeah, that would have been a cool scene.

What if Luke Force choked Vader?

Probably not much, since he breathes through a machine...

Summoning the Force, Luke puts out his hand in a grasping motion, to choke Vader. To which Vader replies: "If I can talk and breath at the same time(!!!), what good do you think *that* is going to do, my son?"

rofl

 

The reason why Darth Vader saved Luke was because Luke redeemed him, even before their duel on the death star.

 

<Vader>What do you mean?</Vader>

 

well my thought is that, We all knew that Anikan was the strongest jedi of all, but no one really spoke of the power Luke had. It was said by a friend that Luke had like 100,000 midiclorines. When Ani was tricked to turn to the dark side, that did not mean he was entirely evil. The lie that Padme died, came to reality the first time he saw Luke, and his true name SKYWALKER. I believe that was the main straw that broke the dark side ite in him. Then to see his son fight for not only his life, but for his twin sister, Vader had to have realized that there was more to life than destroying his own.

 

The thing with the promises is highly interesting ! One point adds to it very much : Take a look at the translation of the inscriptions of Vader's Chestplate in the Technical Commentaries !

 

Anakin was the same person from ep1 to ep6. Luke did sense the good in him,it was the dark side that Vader fell into when he thought he could save someone. Anakin would have probably died if he tried to flee from Palpatine and then he never could have saved anyones life or help his son to balance the force.

 

Yes, he loves Luke. When he looks at him he sees Padme. He sees a second chance - a chance of redemption, to put right the wrongs. Luke and Leia is the only thing left of Padme and he can't watch that die.