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  1. Raven

    Raven Administrator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    So, here?s my favorite ROTS theory, one that I came up with this evening: up until Anakin fell into the lava and failed as the Chosen One, there was only one baby.

    That would be why Padme and Anakin and everyone else thought that there was only one: because there was only one, my guess being that that one was Leia. So, Leia was alone in the womb until Anakin failed, and then the Force swung into action again like it did a decade before The Phantom Menace. Luke was created in the same way that Anakin was, only in far less time (which may have contributed to Padmé?s death).

    Anakin really did fail as the Chosen One, and so the Force created Chosen One version 2.0 to repair the damage that Anakin was doing.
     
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  3. MetallicPea

    MetallicPea Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Um...anakin is the chosen one.
     
  4. KnightWriter

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    Well, as I just mentioned via PM, I'm of the opinion that Anakin was the chosen one from beginning to end. Qui-Gon's death meant that Anakin would end up killing Sidious much later on than he would have under Qui-Gon's guidance.
     
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  6. royalguard96

    royalguard96 Jedi Knight star 5

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    OMG crqazy EU theories!!!11 :p

    Anakin is the chosen one, and he does fulfill the prophecy. It just takes a lot of years and dead bodies for him to do so. Padme was carrying twins the whole time, no one knew it.
     
  7. Darth-Nole

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    Except there was ROTJ where Anakin did bring everything into balance.
     
  8. Raven

    Raven Administrator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Um...anakin is the chosen one.

    Except there was ROTJ where Anakin did bring everything into balance.

    But what are the odds that he would have redeemed himself if it had not been for Luke?


    Another neat thing: the Star Wars main theme was only used in the Prequel Trilogy aside from the main title and end credits at one point: when Luke Skywalker was on screen. Throughout the OT, it?s used around him a great deal. The main theme of Star Wars belongs to Luke.

    Anakin Skywalker may be a Chosen One, but so is Luke Skywalker.
     
  9. R2_3PO

    R2_3PO Jedi Youngling

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    Anakin is the chosen one but it could be true that Luke was created by the force.
     
  10. ericferguson

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    i like the theory especially because maybe the prophecy was not really supposed to be fulfilled like some other prophecies out there!
     
  11. RedavHtrad8

    RedavHtrad8 Jedi Youngling

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    Well didn't Padme think it was a boy earlier in the film when she said HE can go to Naboo by the lake or somethin.... so lea should of been put in after anakins fall (if the theory is true that is)
     
  12. Bacon164

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    I like the theory save for Luke being the Chosen One part. Perhaps the Force created Luke to redeem Anakin and make him fulfill the prophecy? :)
     
  13. Jo_Newman

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    or...there were two babies the whole time, but everyone assumed that there was only one (in the movie, Anakin asks "how are you and the baby?" and Padme says she wants to "have the baby back home on Naboo.") The only time we find out that there are two babies is after Anakin was scorched and only Obi Wan, Yoda, and Bail know about it...
     
  14. MetallicPea

    MetallicPea Jedi Padawan star 4

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    It's the Chosen "One" not the Chosen "Two"
     
  15. Darth-Nole

    Darth-Nole Jedi Youngling

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    Anakin is the chosen one....Luke is just the catalyst that puts everything into motion.
     
  16. ericferguson

    ericferguson Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Are there other prohecies out there that have not come true or were bs?
     
  17. DarthTunick

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    The only problem I see with this theory Raven is that if the Force did create Luke in a quick amount of time, wouldn't he be able to remember Padme through the Force as Leia does? Assuming you believe that of course, I'm just thinking that if the Force did indeed conjoured up Luke, it would be fair to assume that he would be as force sensitive as Leia, since he was directly created by it.
     
  18. Force-Keeper

    Force-Keeper Jedi Master star 5

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    I don?t know. Is it that hard to accept that Padmè just lost the will to live?

    It?s a good theory. Crazy, but good. Anyway, George has said many times that Anakin is the Chosen One. There isn?t any ?Chosen One version 2.0?. Luke was there the whole time from conception to birth. Padmè and Anakin just thought that they were having one child and they never went to see if it was a boy or a girl because they wanted to keep it a surprise (Something about that was touched upon in the ROTS book). Because of that, they were never informed that they had twins.

    Luke's not the Chosen One. He helped a great deal and was meant to help Anakin see that there was still good left in him but he didn't restore balance. Anakin did.
     
  19. Lank_Pavail

    Lank_Pavail Jedi Knight star 7

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    Possible, but more probable Padme kept the pregnancy quiet and didn't see a doctor. Shame on you, Amidala! Not getting proper pre-natal care! [face_shame_on_you]

    :p
     
  20. Promiscuous_Jedi

    Promiscuous_Jedi Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Interesting, but odd. Luke isn't the Chosen One. He's the son of the Chosen One. Nuff said.
     
  21. Taisho_of_Omaha

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    My opinion of why everyone thought there was only one child was Padme did not want to go to a doctor because it would leak out that she was pregnant. She knew on her own that she was and was not ready for anyone else to know until after Anakin did so they could decide how to deal with it. One critic commented that they can fly between solar systems but she did not get an ultrasound to see that she was carrying twins. My only theory is that she had not gotten ANY medical treatment yet to keep it a secret.

    I don't think Luke and Leia were meant as a modification of the prophecy. Anakin did bring balance as predicted, just not in the way the Jedi predicted. They did not consider that the true balance would mean no Jedi OR Sith. A perfect balance of zero.

    Luke then had a clean slate to start over and create a new Jedi order that would not be so arrogant and it was only a matter of time until someone would go to the dark side and the Sith would return AGAIN....

     
  22. Jedi_Johnson

    Jedi_Johnson Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Very interesting theory. If it were true that may explain why Luke used his Force Sensativity sooner than Leia.
     
  23. ViridianForTheWin

    ViridianForTheWin Jedi Youngling star 1

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    "So, here?s my favorite ROTS theory, one that I came up with this evening: up until Anakin fell into the lava and failed as the Chosen One, there was only one baby.

    That would be why Padme and Anakin and everyone else thought that there was only one: because there was only one, my guess being that that one was Leia. So, Leia was alone in the womb until Anakin failed, and then the Force swung into action again like it did a decade before The Phantom Menace. Luke was created in the same way that Anakin was, only in far less time (which may have contributed to Padmé?s death).

    Anakin really did fail as the Chosen One, and so the Force created Chosen One version 2.0 to repair the damage that Anakin was doing."

    i like your style :p you think outside the box. but i disagree with chosen one ver 2. i have always believed that having two force sensative babies can mentaly and physcialy tire padme during labour. in the book it is said that anakin senssed the child to be leia. but somehow luke was also born. a reason i have yet to have a credible idea for. this must have been the reason, along side anakin's choking why padme dies in the end.
     
  24. Raven

    Raven Administrator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    A few notes.

    1) Lucas has indicated that life can be created via the Force (Anakin?s ?virgin birth?, Plagueis?s abilities).

    2) Either Anakin was always supposed to fall to the Dark Side and return (in which case Luke was going to be needed from the very first) or Anakin failed (and Luke was needed even more than ever). Either way, if Anakin was able to fulfill his destiny in the PT, there was no need for Luke. If he wasn?t, then Luke was needed.

    3) Luke went through ?tests? almost identical to the tests that Anakin faced. For example, he was faced the task of destroying a battle station via an impossible shot with minimal training in the Force, with the choice of following orders or rescuing his friends, with the choice of facing a Sith Lord or not, and finally the choice between light and dark: Anakin thought that he could be with Padmé by choosing dark, and Luke must surely have thought that he could be reunited with his father if he chose dark himself. The tests and trials they faced were extremely similar, which serves as an indication to me that the Force was treating Luke in the same way that it was treating Anakin.

    4) If I?m not mistaken, Lucas has said that Luke is as potentially powerful as Anakin was before he was injured.

    Finally, the original Star Wars theme is Luke?s theme.

    In conclusion, Luke is the Force giving the whole ?Chosen One? idea another shot.
     
  25. Darth-Nole

    Darth-Nole Jedi Youngling

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    Taisho_of_Omaha put it perfectly!
     
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