The Sith Line From Darth Bane To Palpatine

How many Sith, from Bane to Palpatine, do we have names and stories for? Do we not know any of the Sith that came after Bane till Palpatine, or do we know any of Palpatines predecessors?

 

Bane's first apprentice was Zannah, aka "Rain," but she disappeared somewhere between Ruusan and Dxun. After that, we're pretty much in dark until Darth Sidious.

Of course, I could be wrong, as is often the case. Though I don't think I am.

 

Ya, she disappeared somewhere between the end of Jedi vs. Sith(ruusan) up to Bane of the Sith(dxun). She most likely was killed, or she escaped somwhere between that time.

Bane was on Dxun for "years"(Secrets of the Sith, Dark Side sourcebook) absorbing power in a darkside well before he went to find an apprentice. TPM novel states that this apprentice was male.

 

I'm sorry, but I've not heard of "Bane Of The Sith", or did I know he was Dxun at all....



someone care to bring me up to speed?

 

Palpatine's master was named Darth Lucious. I don't know what the story behind this is, though.

 

No it isn't, you fell for a fanfic I think.

 

Darth Lucious, eh? Hmm, I think I prefer the similarly fanfictitious (of course, it's all fiction, but you know what I mean) "Darth Imperious."


In case you're interested, here's a list of all the Sith Lords I know of in reasonably accurate chronological order:

Simus
Marka Ragnos
Naga Sadow
Ludo Kressh
Freedon Nadd
Exar Kun
Ulic Qel-Droma
Darth Revan
Darth Malak
Darth Bandon
Qordis
Kaan
Darth Rivan
Darth Bane
Zannah
Darth Sidious
Darth Maul
Darth Tyranus
Darth Vader
Lumiya
Flint
Carnor Jax

 

Simus
Marka Ragnos
Naga Sadow
Ludo Kressh
Freedon Nadd
Exar Kun
Ulic Qel-Droma
Darth Revan
Darth Malak
Darth Bandon
Qordis
Un-named Rogue Jedi(very important to sith history)
Kaan
Darth Rivan
Darth Bane
Zannah (MIA somewhere on ruusan, up to crash on dxun) replaced by

unnamed male onderonian apprentice many years later(important historical note, see secrets of the sith, and Dark Side sourcebook, NEGTC, and the end of bane of the sith, and conjecture based on info in the TPM novel)

Darth Sidious
Darth Maul
Darth Tyranus
Darth Vader
Lumiya
Flint
Carnor Jax

 

Don't forget the unnamed "rogue" Jedi (plural) who led up to the line of Simus, Ragnos, Sadow, etc.

 

So a complete a list as possible would look something like this:

Lots of Dark Jedi who founded the Sith Empire, possibly led by Xendor
Simus
Marka Ragnos
Naga Sadow
Ludo Kressh
Lots of unnamed Sith in the Sith Empire
Freedon Nadd
Exar Kun
Ulic Qel-Droma
Several unnamed Sith recruited by Kun and Qel-Droma (that is, IIRC)
Darth Revan
Darth Malak
Darth Bandon
Several unnamed Sith from the Sith Academy
Lots of unnamed Sith, including the one who founded a new Sith Order 2000 BBY
Qordis
Kaan
Darth Rivan
Darth Bane
Zannah
Unnamed male onderonian apprentice
Over 900 years worth of Sith
Darth Sidious
Darth Maul
Darth Tyranus
Darth Vader
Lumiya
Flint
Carnor Jax

 

Is it just an assumption that Bane took an Onderonian(spelling please) as his apprentice after leaving the Dxun moon because said moon orbits Oderon(spelling please), or is it stated somewhere that this is the case?

 

Palpatine's master was named Darth Lucious. I don't know what the story behind this is, though.

No it isn't, you fell for a fanfic I think.

Actually, he's right. Darth Lucious was Palpy's master. Check TimeTales.

 

Ok, you've piqued my curiosity with the mention of TimeTales. Gonna check what it has to say. About what time period should I be looking in? And I don't mean simply what era, I know they break the eras down into various time periods.

 

We should separate the list via master and apprentice. With Palpatine/Sidious he had 3 apprentices we know of, but none of them were really ever bumped up to master at any point (maybe Vader for like 3 minutes while the Emperor was temproarily dead).

Also, I think Lumiya and her line should count as a separate branch since Palpatine was alive for a while after ROTJ and she was not his apprentice. I rememebr having this discussion in another thread, but the title of the thread escapes me.

 

"Actually, he's right. Darth Lucious was Palpy's master. Check TimeTales."

Ok, what is Timetales source. Cause if it isn't from an official source then it is like what they did in the last section of timetales which is pure fanfic, and it isn't valid.

Edit: I did a search through timetales, and I did not find it. So what we have here is "-Lord-Vader-" BSing, and wouldn't be surprised if 6-6-6 and -Lord-Vader- are one and the same person, or know each other.

I did find darth lucious mentioned though in parody websites dealing with south park/star wars parodies. So what we have here is two people, or one person(with a sock) who thinks he/she is funny and is trying pull the wool over people's eyes. Sorry it's not funny, and it's not april fool's day.

"Is it just an assumption that Bane took an Onderonian(spelling please) as his apprentice after leaving the Dxun moon because said moon orbits Oderon(spelling please), or is it stated somewhere that this is the case?"

More than one source says he went to Onderan to find an apprentice. NEGTG for instance says that he found an apprentice on Onderan. You don't find much on onderan during this time period but Onderanians as I recall. He surely didn't drop Zannah off there for a few years, as bane of the sith among other sources states that bane went directly from ruusan to dxun.

 

Pardon me, but what events occured in Bane of the Sith?

 

It was a prose version of bane flying directly after the battle from Ruusan to Dxun, all alone except for the spirits of his master Qordis, and Dark Lord Kaan, haunting him. Qordis was telling him he was a failure, and not worthy of being a sith, and Kaan telling him he was the only one worthy of being the next true Dark Lord of the Sith after himself. Kaan as he reached Dxun ended up crashing due to unpredictable storm clouds there. He had to fight some local wildlife, finally reaching a sith tomb. Where he found a holocron, and some parasites fell from the ceiling and latched onto him, where the story cut off, to show a an unpecified amount of years later he had been studying the holocron(other sources also mention he was absorbing energy from a dark side energy well, becoming even more powerful), and the parasites had become a symbiotic armor to him during those years. He then used his new found knowledge and power to use the force to move the Dxun moon into onderan's atmosphere similer to how it used to do millenia before naturally. He then used one of the local flying beasts, to fly across the two atmospheres and to find an apprentice on the onderan surface.

 

Wow....




Hun.

So who was Banes master? And did any other Sith survive Ruusan?

 

Qordis was Darth Bane's master. No Sith, other than Bane, survived the thought bomb at the Battle of Ruusan.

 

Oh, I'll have to amend my fanfic then...

 

How am I suppose to be able to check TimeTales if I don't even know where to look? I could find Palpatine's birth, but nothing about his master.

 

I for one can't wait until we find out exactly how the whole "Darth" thing works. For a while I thought it started with Bane and all the Sith after him kept it as an honorific. But now we've got Malak, Revan, and Bandon from KotOR, three thousand years before Bane. It's gonna be interesting to find out why some of them were Darths and some weren't.

 

Don't forget Darth Rivan who lived at the same time as bane and died during the battle of ruusan, but they weren't connected to each other.

"Kaan as he reached Dxun ended up crashing due to unpredictable storm clouds there."

My bad, I accidently typed Kaan when I meant Bane.

 

Lord_Darth_Demonicus:

Simple answer for you is that we don't know the line of Sith between Bane and Sidious.

There are a few guesses as to Darth Bane taking on Darth Rivan as his apprentice but thats a stretch and rumour.

The thing is we most likely wont learn about the line of Sith.

 

Darth Rivan wasn't his apprentice, and couldn't be. Darth Rivan lived at the same time as Darth Bane before the battle of ruusan. Infact I think one of the articles said that said Darth Rivan was a 100 years old or so. Darth Rivan was one of the many who died at the battle of ruusan. No way he could have been Darth Bane's apprentice, and one of the articles on rivan showed that they really had no connection.

Rivan wasn't Bane's master either, that was Qordis.