The Star Wars Characters vs Other Universe Characters poll: Mandalorian vs Predator

Ok, another poll pitting Star wars characters against something from another universe.

This week I picked two characters who are merely one of many, but who have similar attributes.
Both deadly stealth hunters with an array of weaponry.


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Mandalorian Soldier

vs

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Predator Warrior


Now, since the first poll was a test to see how effective this was, I have made a change:

I have decided a specified location is better because then it doesn't allow people to say "in this situation this character would win".
I will place Characters in a neutral ground that will serve as advantage to both.


The location this week will be a deserted forest, which I feel will suit both characters abilities well.

Now there are rules I ask you to abide by when voting:

1) No voting based on love of character - you must be unbiased e.g. no voting for Superman if he's in a poll just because you think he's great, be logical.

2) Debates over tougher character can be done using in-universe evidence e.g. you can argue HK is better based on things he does in the KOTOR series or other EU material he features in.

3) These polls are done by me - if you have an idea for a great fight, PM/MSN it to me and I will consider it.

4) A character can only be used once.

5) If in the event of a draw, I will judge the winner based on who I feel has the most convincing argument.




So, who will win?

***Locked at request of thread starter***

 

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I will do.



But will it tell me who will win?

 

I think Predator would win because he is physically stronger.

 

Predator all the way, both are skilled killers but I don't think a Mandalorian could take out as many as the Predator could.
A Mandalorian would give him a run for his money though.

 

I'd have to go with the Predator

why?

well the Mandalorians are a warring species who life to prove themselves in battle where as the Predators are skilled hunters. Given the enviroment I think the Pedator would have the edge in stalking the Mandalorian & waiting for the perfect moment to strike. If it was a fight in the open it would possibly be another matter.

 

I would love to say mandalorian, but I'm going to have to go with Predator.

 

Predator because Mandalorian's are just a bunch of sissy's.

 

Boba fett got taken out by a blind human. A predator would kick his arse!

 

QFT! Exactly my point. And all Mace had to do with Jango was run in a strait line and chop his head off, and Jango was supposed to be the best one going! He is the only one that survived so the rest of the mandalorians must of really sucked ass. Plus look what happened to the clones in the end, can't shoot strait for beans and got there arse's kicked by a buch of teddys!

And Predator's are physically strong, intelligent and have great use of stealth. Plus they show some honor, they will only blast you with there cannon if your loaded with a fire arm, when you have nothing to fend with they will take you on with there bare hands. Mandalorian's are just a bunch of puffs hiding in there suit.

 

I'm liking the Arnie vibe you have in both contests Richie.


I have to say Predator on this. THE Predator from the first movie was by far the best. No need to list all the reasons but invisibility is obviously going to be a plus

 

Well invisibility wouldn't work, because Mandalorians have heat vision, so he'd see anyway.

I also think the strength of armour is being overlooked here.



Yes Predator can ambush the Mandalorian....but can it actually hurt him?
What's Predator gonna do, shoot him with his fancy shoulder mounted lazer?

Won't have any effect.

Mandalorians also have invisibility stealth devices, so who says he couldn't sneak up on Predator?


Also, since the EU counts here, Boba Fett was not beaten by a man with a stick, since he escaped his fate in the Sarlacc.
And whether he or Jango went out badly is irrelevant to the debate. Every Mandalorian is different, who's to say this one would be easier to beat?

Save that excuse for when I put the Fetts in a poll.


Predator does have physical strength advantage agreed, but would it be any use?
What good would punching a Mandalorian be, apart from giving it a broken hand?

I suppose it could throw him around, but that's not too likely since I doubt the Mandalorian would allow himself to be manhandled.


I think more thought is needed, people seem to be letting raw power affect their judgement here, it's about ability. I selected these two because they're almost equal in ability.

You're also forgetting one big advantage Mandalorian would have, he can fly, even if only for a limited time. This allows him to stay out of range of ground attacks, and being shot at would have no effect.




Good debate so far.

 

Richie: I was going to vote predator untill I read your post, now I'm not sure.

Going by the predator films, the AvP film and the AvP2 game, as well as KotOR2, it would seem that the Mandalorians and predators have a fair bit in common. Both seem to hold honour in high regard, in KotOR2 there's an extra bit where you can earn honour in the battle circle by fighting Mandalorians, and at the end of AvP and Predator 2 things were done the gave the indication that the predator held some respect for the person, in predator 2 this came in the form of a trophy, in AvP it was some kind of symbolic scarring.

As for abilities, they both have stealth cloaks, they both have multifunctioning optical sensors that can detect heat and so on. Mandalorians can fly, but is this an advantage in a jungle? Maybe it could be a disadvantage, an unseen branch could prove disastarous. I'm not even sure if all Mandalorians can fly either, it only seemed that Jango and Bobba could, they certainly don't fly in KotOR2. The predator on the other hand can jump realy high and really quickly, possibly enabling it to jump through a thick tangle of branches and out of harms way. Weapon wise, they're probably matched. The shoulder cannon is pretty nifty, in the AvP2 game it locks onto target automagically, it might not damage the armour but it could find a weak spot. I don't know much about Mandalorian weaponry so I can't really say.

There's also the predators strength to consider, it might not damage the armour but if it came down to fisty cuffs it'd certainly be a huge advantage. That said though, size matters not. Strength means nothing without control, and predators seem to have oodles of that.

It's certainly an interesting one.

 

So because we disagree with you, we're not thinking enough? Interesting stance. If you've made up your mind, what's the point in stating our opinions if your rebuttal is "you're not thinking enough"

 

I don't mean you're wrong, I like Predator as much as the next person, and it's a character capable of winning, or it wouldn't be in the poll.


But, like FatBurt in his England team thread, I would prefer more debate so I want people to look deeper into the attributes of each character.

Just saying things like "Predator will win because he's tougher" doesn't really prove anything, and to me indicates no-one really spent a lot of time thinking about it (not that anyone has to), but I'm sorry if I'm wrong.



@ moosemouse - That's the kind of response I'm looking for.

 

What! Look at Boba! His armour is only really on his chest, and even there there is gaps in the armour!

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I've marked on the places the Predator can blast him "with his fancy shoulder mounted laser" (with the 3 predator dots for the aim, nice touch hey?) And he has the choice of blasting either of his shins off, in either calf and in both arms. If you have an armless mandalorian he can't do much the fend himself. Plus there is even gaps in the chest armour the predator can get through. And I'm sure if he shot a mandalorian in the face, if the helmet protects him I'm sure the power of the blast would at least knoch the helmet off leaving his face exposed.

 

It's a laser gun, not a grenade launcher.

But I admire your research efforts, good of you to highlight your point with a picture.


And yes there are gaps in Mandalorian armour (or at least in the Journeyman Protector kind worn by the Fetts and Mandalorians at the time of the NJO).
The chest gaps are designed as shock absorbers, they compress to absord impact. After all, if you hit one solid mass with a strong force it's likely to crack or break.

I doubt the gaps are large enough to shoot easily through, at least not with the weapon Predator has.
Plus the under-suit is "blast dampening" meaning it is desgined to lessen the effect of blaster fire. It has a wire mesh underneath aswell as heat insulation. It would cause pain and burns, but I doubt enough damage to take a limb off.

Mandalorian armour of that kind is not indestructible, and it doesn't protect everywhere, especially arms (although Jango's protected legs better). But Mandalorians customise their armour in different ways.


Predator contains the ability to do significant damage to a Mandalorian, and most likely could.
Although it would have to resort to firepower I think as it's blade weapon wouldn't be much use.
It's physical strength could be the tipping point in a fight. If it were to ambush the Mandalorain (difficult as that would be), a suprise attack could be decisive if perhaps done from above otherwise it would be seen by the Mandalorian's 360 degree vision.
A drop from a tree would perhaps prove effective.


I feel the fight would come down to who can strike first.

 

This is a little tougher than the last poll.

In a straight up fight, the Predator would win, no question. However, a Mandalorian would set traps just like Arnie did to capture his prey, so a Mandalorian would win that way, and I'm sure that with Fett's gizmo's, he would still spot a Predator from a mile away, regardless of the Predators cloaking device.

I still think the Predator would win, just on sheer strength alone.

 

No no, you can't say that strength is good enough. You have to say more, otherwise your opinion is invalid.

 

Is it?

You put them two into a fist fight, the Predator would smack the **** out of a Mandalorian. Sure, he'd take a few burns of the blowtorch in the process, but his strength would be a great advantage. The Mandalorian would have to rely more on his speed to get out of the scrap, and even though the Predator is a semi-slow monster, their reflexes are quite sharp. I also think that the Predator would be able to use its surroundings to its advantage.

 

/sniff sniff...
what's that godawful smell?
smells like barbequed predator to me...

 

the predators got defeated by a politician.....


However, I still think te predator would win

 

And Sgt. Murtaugh! But he's as hard as nails, so it goes without saying!

 

The location this week will be a deserted forest, which I feel will suit both characters abilities well.

In this case, the Predator has an advantage, but a slim one. He can shoot first and hope his plasma caster hits an unarmoured spot on the Mando and kills him, because Mando's silly amount of weapons in his armour is well capable enough of taking the Predator out, who as we saw in the movies they've appeared in can be wounded by bullets, and xenomorph teeth.

Hand-to-hand is an obvious win for the Predator, as is even being defeated and taking out the Mando with his self-destruct nuke.

Think my vote goes with Predator for this one.

 

Good points raised.

I forgot about the nuke thing, although I think that might end up in the fight being a draw since both competitorswould die. But since Predator would be the one to deliver the killer blow, I suppose that would make it the victor.


I agree the strength of Predator is a big advantage. Even a heavily armoured person would have trouble withstanding being thrown around. I doubt Predator has the strength to actually break the armour plating, but it can certainly cause serious injury.


Plus as I recall in AVP the Predator is immune to fire, so the Mandalorian flamethrower would not be overly effective.

I am also unsure if a toxic dart would be much good, as Predator would probably have a strong immune system to deal with any toxins.