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Lit The Star Wars Multiverse, or a Crisis On Infinite Coruscants

Discussion in 'Literature' started by IG_2000, Nov 2, 2016.

  1. IG_2000

    IG_2000 Force Ghost star 4

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    Not sure if a thread on this topic has been created before, but... how would the hardcore SW fanbase if a Multiverse concept similar to Marvel or DC was *tastefully* introduced into the series lore? Universes and timelines that have the ability to somehow interact with one another: Kylo Ren makes some sort of contact with Darth Caedus.. Luke goes to Mortis, which is actually a hub of every universe, and meets his counterpart who actually took up Vader's offer to overthrow the Emperor.

    I know many would balk at the idea, but the more I warm up to the idea of parallel universes in real life, the more it would be believable in a SW setting.
     
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  2. Vthuil

    Vthuil Force Ghost star 5

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    I'm not a "hardcore fan" and tend to dislike them, but I would find this dumb and creatively-bankrupt if it was done officially (something like Infinities wouldn't be an issue).
     
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  3. LelalMekha

    LelalMekha Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I would like the existence of two timelines being a thing, but I certainly would hate the two interacting.
     
  4. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Welllll. Legends already had two timelines occur. Timeline A where Allana becomes a Sith. Timeline B where Allana sits on the Throne of Balance.

    I'd not be violently opposed to it.


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  5. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Force Ghost star 5

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    If it was used effectively and tastefully I might come around to it. It's an idea that works and sometimes doesn't work.

    Also it works more in franchises like Star Trek where it is used far more effectively-I don't mean the reboot but things like yesterday's enterprise and the mirror universe.

    Star Wars doesn't really do concepts like that and I wouldn't want to see Star Wars do that. So no unless of course it's handled with absolute discretion, and preferably used in conjunction with force metaphysics, prophecies and other more natural aspects of Star Wars.
     
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  6. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    As an Infinities or Legends concept I'm all for it, but canonically? No thanks.
     
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  7. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Chosen One star 7

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    I read a fan-fic with 3 different timelines.
    The original EU timeline, an alternate EU timeline where Anakin Solo lived past SBS (created from Caedus and Tahiri flow-walking in Inferno) and the NEU universe (created by Snoke during the alternate Legacy comic era in universe 2). Tying the EU and NEU together.

    Seeing post NJO Han meeting Post TFA Chewie would be fun imo.

    I would rather use the characters, planets, species, ships, tech, groups, etc from the EU, NEU and whatever else will come in the future and throw all of them into the EU universe instead of using a multi-verse.
     
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  8. Rax

    Rax Jedi Master star 3

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    I like this multiverse idea, but it shouldn't be many. Infact only Legends and canon, otherwise people would start to stop caring about them. As for interacting, maybe if if the situation was isolated, as in only one person did/remembers it, and it used the force which is above the multiverse.
     
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  9. Darth_Voider

    Darth_Voider Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I like multiverses in fiction, but I don't know if it works in Star Wars.

    The only possibility which I have nothing against per se would be if there are only two universes in such a multiverse: The canon universe and the legends universe. If there are too many universes, new readers could become confused quickly (which was one of the main reasons DC decided to do a Crisis on Infinite Earths in the first place). You could in such a scenario even continue the Legends universe as well as the canon universe, they are just two separate universes now (and TBH, George Lucas himself always viewed the EU as an "alternate universe" or a "different world").

    I don't know if characters from one universe should ever encounter their counterparts from the other universe, although post NJO Han meeting post TFA Chewbacca would indeed be funny.

    BTW, Crisis on Infinite Coruscants is really a funny thread name.
     
  10. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Chosen One star 7

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    Poe as a New Republic/Galactic Alliance pilot during the Vong war and beyond,
    Rey and Ben as Jedi,
    Hux, Phasma with the Imperial Remnant
    Finn possibly with the Imperial Remnant, or somewhere out in the galaxy depending on what we learn about his origins. Runs into Rey or Poe and have adventures.
    Lor San Tekka as mayor of Sernpidal or one of the Great River contacts,
    The Rebels crew helping out post ANH depending on if they live or not.
    Twilight Company fighting against Imperials post ROTJ
    Maz Kanata being an informant for the Jedi, hiding Jedi, etc.
    That fleet from Lost Stars would join the Empire of the Hand or something

    etc.
     
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  11. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Force Ghost star 5

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    Can you tell me the name of this triple-timeline fanfic?
     
  12. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The hardcore fanbase will accept anything eventually but, personally, I'd abandon the N/EU side of the franchise entirely and never look back. A literal multiverse -- that allows for crossovers between lines -- is absolutely the most creatively bankrupt thing they could possibly do.

    I'd rather read another hundred LotFs.

    And I'm fairly certain there is a big thread on this topic, elsewhere, that I'll see if I can locate.

    I've definitely posted my violent objections before, at any rate. :p
     
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  13. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Force Ghost star 5

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    Oh I agree with you it is a bankrupt and lazy idea but what would you prefer no legends forever?
     
  14. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    If those are the two options?

    Yes. I'd absolutely prefer that. I'll take no literal multiverse over more EU any day of the week.

    Multiple continuities is fine. Totally cool with having Star Wars set in all sorts of different realities. Hell, I'd like to see the universe of "THE STAR WARS" continued. I object specifically to the possibility of intersection* and "meta-continuity". No. Never.

    Don't cross the streams.

    EDIT:
    *Welllll. Canon intersection. Non-canon crossovers? Sure, they can knock themselves out.
     
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  15. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 8

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    As long as they're treated like Infinities. Or if they do a couple new stories in the "Legends"-verse... but it's clear they're still "Legends."

    No crossover, that's where a lot of franchises tend to jump the ship.
     
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  16. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    I love me some crossovers, I love me some multiple continuities, and I love me having universes collide. Do all of it, everything! Mix, match, explode, contract, just make sure each universe is in their own separate box by the end of it (but maybe, twist, some Legends Continuity version of a character ends up in the new timeline by the end of it).

    Y'know how in comics some characters remember when universes are rebooted and (most) don't? I'm totally okay with that. Heck, Luke hanging out at the First Jedi Temple with all that Force stuff he must have SEEN some stuff, y'know what I'm saying?
     
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  17. Vthuil

    Vthuil Force Ghost star 5

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    Shark.
     
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  18. Darth Basin

    Darth Basin Jedi Master star 5

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    No crossovers! Not multiverses!
     
  19. King of Alsakan

    King of Alsakan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I would like too see a multiverse, just to get some more stories set in the Legends universe here and there. Wouldn't be too crazy about a crossover though.
     
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  20. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    Isn't Legends / canon already a multi-verse anyway, technically? You would just need something in canon to acknowledge the existence of a Legends-vese to make it something officially official in universe.
     
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  21. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    I want a completely tasteless crossover preferably written by John Ostrander in the style of the Devaronian Version and drawn by the likes of David Fabbri.
     
  22. Darth Basin

    Darth Basin Jedi Master star 5

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    Technically, what happened in Legends are in fact "tall tales" of what MAY of happened in the GFFA.

    Example.

    Person A.

    Didn't Jaxxon of the Star-Hoppers help Han Solo & Chewbacca fight off bandits?

    Person B.

    No I think he died during the Clone Wars? Didn't R2-D2 & his buddies find his body?

    Person C.

    Those could of been anyone's bones!
     
  23. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Chosen One star 7

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    The Lego game series,
    the non-canon game endings,
    the original Marvel comics,
    the original drafts of SW.
    Heck any draft period.
     
  24. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    Yeah Star Wars Lego has been called "canon adjacent", I believe, and it's it's own little verse. Like the events of Star Wars Lego happen in the Star Wars universe but there's a lot of difference in how those events happened / number of puns, etc. do the Freemakers running a junk shop on The Wheel exist in canon? Probably. Was one kid trained to be a Jedi and fought against a dark side minion of Vader and Palpatine? Maybe not.
     
  25. Darth_Duck

    Darth_Duck Chosen One star 5

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    I think a multiverse where characters can crossover is a terrible idea.

    However, it's probably the only way we get my ideal (and pretty terrible) Star Wars/Marvel comics crossover. Picture Marvel 1602 only instead of the superheroes popping up in Elizabethan England they show up in .the GFFA. Spider-Man swinging around Coruscant, Professor X hiding his mutants from the Empire, Captain Republic waking up after being frozen, etc.
     
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