JCC Embrace The FU - Formerly the STAR WARS IS BAD thread

They could've found new ways to motivate them.

 

“Good to see you Thrawn.”

“You too Morgan, let’s go.”

“Don’t you need to do something first?”

“I had ten years to get ready, obviously the coffins are already in the cargo hold. Like, can you imagine if someone did that, just completely wasted all that time?”

 

How do they make money other than in attracting subscribers?

Some might do well with merchandise, like Mandalorian & Stranger Things.
Other than that, they aren't created to make a profit

 

Inosanto looked like she was about to fall asleep through her entire fight scene.

 

The thing is far more complicated.
Disney+ has versions with ads and without ads.
How much ad money do they make ?
There are deals with third parts, Take for example the Disney+ bundle with Verizon.
Verizon customers on select Unlimited plans can get “Disney+ on us.” Plans start at just $50 a month and include unlimited talk and text, plus free streaming on Disney+, Hulu and ESPN+.. So if the costumer isn't paying, someone is. Would it be Verizon itself.
And how much it is ?
The lack of transparency of streaming money is a huge issue and 1 of the main reasons of the strikes ( SAG an WGA)

 

That's SW, this is real world business and real world business fires their arse and **** cans the project.

 

But do the people running these streamers even know?
Surely ad money is for the platform as a whole, just like subscriber money.

How do you narrow that down to individual shows?

 

The subscription model is so simple. The company provides an array of benefits in return for the subscription fee. Then when revenue from selling new subscriptions drops off, they slowly take away the benefits to boost profitability until all that's left is the subscription fee and we don't remember why we are paying it but we can't tell for certain that we're getting nothing in return beecause it's been so long since we signed on for the original array of benefits that we've forgotten what the benefits were in the first place, so we just keep paying.

 

Aka the gym membership subscription model.

 

People notice the mediocre fight choreography because almost all the action is boring and tensionless with no stakes.

That's pretty easily one of my top 3 problems with all the non-Andor D+ shows. At least Mando Season 1 had a couple of prominent characters get killed.. but most of it is about as excited as the "combat" in an episode of GI Joe from the 1980s.

 

I don't know what people are watching.

Combat in these shows overall is far better than what we got in the ST. Do we really want to go back to the PT era stuff?
We already saw Anakin do his signature behind the back twirl for no reason, do you want more of that?

It's supposed to follow on from the OT, a time when the fighting was more reserved and direct.

And characters now at least look like they're trying to hit each other instead of just aiming for the other person's weapons as we see in many other shows/movies

 

Yeah, my criticisms here are on the lack of resolution.

The only problem with the fights is the decision to do zombies with no blood, gore or decapitation / dismemberment allowed.

 

Many of the fights in this show were extremely pointless:

1. Ashoka gets out of a space ship to fight Baylan, even though he is nowhere near her allies. What is her ultimate goal? To steal a mounted wolf/goat thing to continue travelling at an even slower pace than if she had simply stayed on the space ship.
2. Elizabeth is sent to delay Ashoka's progress on getting aboard the Star Destroyer. Ultimately, though, they only fight briefly before dozens of zombie stormtroopers show up to delay her--exactly the same thing that was slowing her down effectively before Elizabeth was ever deployed.
3. Literally every single time Grand Admiral Thrawn deployed someone, he would open with a statement of how determined he was to make sure they succeeded because it was super important. Then after they failed, he would deliberately decline to reinforce them or press the attempt, with the logic that it wasn't actually important that succeed in the first place. Why, then, were any of these attacks needed?

Et cetera

 

Basically, it's stupid. Not funny stupid but pointless stupid. Thankfully it was just 8 episodes of pointless stupid. I never ever thought I'd see the day when Star Wars was boring, but it's here.

 

Did you not watch Attack of the Clones? I mean, I don’t blame you for skipping it, but still, I think there’s precedent.

 

The Holiday Special was mostly boring. Star Wars was boring after 1 year.

 

Some people don't care about the technicalities at all. They are not interested in fights when there's no tension. Those people are here, and those fights are in this show.

 

I keep forgetting about the Holiday Special so either my brain is trying to protect itself or if I were to undergo severe psychic trauma my personality would revert to a backup centered around Bea Arthur and making the Hand Solo pun while beating up criminals, like if the Batman of Zur-En-Arrh were really lame.

 

Given that the Zombie Stormtroopers were so much more effective than when they were alive, and that they volunteered with the specific knowledge that they were going to die and get turned into zombies. Why weren’t they just zombies to begin with?

Ok I know the reason is that showing a squad of troopers committing ritual suicide for a commander they’ve started to deify in order to be raised with the strength of undeath by dark magic would just be too metal for Star Wars, but they should have done it anyways.

 

agreed. once you've let zombies into the Star Wars universe, you might as well go big. Personally, I've enjoyed keeping Star Wars and zombies separate for the last 46 years, but I always knew this would happen eventually.

 

Haven't we had zombies for quite a while?

 

there was that dengar guy, but i think he was more of a mummy.

 

Was Rebels full of zombies too? I wouldn't know but I'll take your word for it.

 

The whole witches and zombies angle is just lame. The Star Wars galaxy is fast becoming just the same galaxy as ours. Next up, vampires.

 

Isn’t space witches kind of a natural element to introduce, given space wizards are the main protagonists?

This seems like a stretch. Why would they replace Rey with Shin, and what’s the benefit of this nonsense ‘light/dark’ protagonists? Seems like a fundamental misunderstanding of the franchise.