PT This quote from reddit proves that the prequels are not "objectively" bad movies

"I'm 22 and I never really saw any of the movies. I saw bits and pieces and some as a kid but I never remembered anything for the most part. I finished watching the original trilogy and now just finished Episode I. People saying the acting was bad are delusional. There is FAR more bad acting in the original am trilogy and obviously due to it being very old movies. Times have changed and the movie industry alongside with it. Yes, a lot of CGI was kinda tacky but a lot of it was better than what it use to be. Lucas no doubt would have done the same if he had done the original trilogy years later. Jar Jar to me felt like them trying to make a equivalent to Chewbacca but more for kids. Nevertheless, I found Episode I to be really good. I hated the poor acting in the older movies. Luke was so corny and his lines too. The tone in all the actors just reminds me of old movies and make the characters feel fake. I can't relate to them if they don't talk like normal humans. Regardless I love the original trilogy but so far Episode I is better in many ways. The fights especially. Anakin is corny though. But what can you do when you decide to have a young kid play a very important role. Maybe if they would of have him be slightly older and therefor have an older more experienced actor, the character would've been better. Oh well, now I'm off to watch Episode II and III and then Clone Wars." This really just proves how the OT is just seen with rose-tinted glasses in many cases. The fact that he called "all" of the OT cheesy proves it so. Like he said, the type of acting was there at that time than the acting now. Not only that, he finds them unrelatable. Shocking isn't it? I wanted to share this as I started to lose faith in the PT because I had seen and heard about many of the actors and people not liking to work on it. But this made me feel much better about it I guess.

 

There is no such thing as an objective opinion. Opinions are naturally subjective.

 

i came in here to post that^

 

Yeah, it is literally impossible for someone to say someone's opinion about art is "wrong". It's art! Alls that matters is how it affects the individual viewer, nobody else.

 

THANK YOU. If you like the PT, well, rock on. If you hate the PT, there's about 2 billion sites where you can rain your fanboy love down on the OT (which, for the record, I adore.)

 

I put objective there because I have seen numerous statements saying this. RLM fanbase states this all the time and It never makes sense to me why(RLM PT bashers not the entire fanbase).

 

I'll tell you why: those people are IDIOTS!

 

Movie styles change. Unfortunately for a lot of people, "older-looking" movies just aren't appealing, whether they have an aged aesthetic, or are even black and white. Even acting styles evolve over time; early talkie films were still based on stage productions, and featured exaggerated acting as a carryover from the silent era. Obviously, the changes over the last thirty years are more subtle, but you can't quite put your finger on it.

It's a breath of fresh air to hear an unbiased opinion on the sage, though for the aforementioned reasons, I tend to dismiss comparisons that focus around the age of the film. Even the prequels will become "old" -- remember the films for their content, symbolism and story, not just for the excellent fights and effects.

 

No opinions are unbiased.

This thread proves people are far too sensitive when it comes to what other people think of movies

 

Hmmmm...Brotha I see where your getting at but theres more to this. The whole point, is to show that the OT is really seen thru rose glasses. It became the focal point, the ideal SW movie, the obsession. That quote post was downvoted to the bottom of the thread while the ones about how bad it is, plikett reviews were at the top. I see this a psychological attachment test. I even showed the PT to MANY people first then I showed them the OT. The result was the same as him. Cheesy effects, bad acting etc. I wanted to raise discussion about this but not about how right or wrong he is, but more so truth and reality of all things.

I know there are some very smart people here like you, so I wanted to see different truths people say.

I don't see topics much about people not liking OT for the same reasons as the PT. So I might as well do it.


EDIT: Also Im not sensitive really about this. I don't know why you think that. Is it because people bashed you here on the PT boards?

 

it's hard not to care tho when something you and a lot of other people hold dear has been constantly trashed in the media and set up as if it's factually bad and told that no one likes it for over a decade

TFA didn't do anything to help either, since it was a new chance to talk about star wars again in the media, and instead of just focusing on the movie, 99% of talk about TFA has been comparisons between the trilogies and how the new one will right the PTs wrongs... so all of that had been dying down over the years? it's been kicked right back into overdrive. it's reopened the wound for a lot of people. we can and are totally allowed to be sensitive about it if we want

 

Yeah I'm sure it's kind of annoying... I would just ignore it. I like a lot of movies that other people think are dreck and I just don't worry about it. Life's too short.

Here's the good news. Whatever PT bashing there is out there I'm guessing it's days are numbered. Once the Episode 8 hype heats up that's going to be the topic of conversation and once it is released all the comparisons will be to Episode 7

 

I see where you are coming from now. Honestly one could find people who dislike/like almost any movie. As much as people like to imagine Star Wars is this universally loved thing I can tell you there are plenty of people out there who think it's all pretty stupid (I should know, my wife is one of them... and my daughters and I have been driving her NUTS since the beginning of december... watching SW all the time )

 

Yeah brotha I see where your coming from. I'm just looking at this in a deeper spectrum.

So you have kids huh? What are the ages? They sound pretty young.

 

That quote proves nothing. It's still a matter of opinion and will always be.

 

I'll be happy to quote Mike Klimo, author of the Star Wars Ring Theory, "If you go outside the Star Wars fan bubble, there are people who don't like Star Wars." (Even the so called "perfect" OT).

 

if you read what i said, you would see how difficult something like that is when it's constantly thrown in your face

i can't read a single thing on TFA without someone shouting from the rooftops about how awful the PT is

yeah that's not going to stop the PT comparison and constant bashing

a decade didn't do it, and two more movies will do nothing but give the more to compare, trilogy to trilogy

 

What makes me sad as a fan is when someone writes about how they've never seen any Star Wars movie, and the fans go after them like the OT is some sort of perfect thing they're missing, if I were them I woudln't want to watch any Star Wars movie, OT or PT after seeing fan dumb react when I'm just expressing that I've never seen them or have no itnerest in seeing them.

 

I know what he's saying, though. The further out we get, the more content the media has to compare whatever the "new" thing is to and it will take the target off of 1-3 somewhat.

Trust me, all, I do get it: it sucks that people who saw maybe one movie a decade ago trash the prequels, or whatever. But quotes like the OP do at least show that it's not everybody who feels that way, and even then: who cares? I like the PT, and that's that.

 

I think the cake is baked on that. You will get comparisons. That's what happens in a film series. People compare different Bonds, different genre films, etc.

Comparisons are inevitable.

The real question is: how do you as a fan discern what is worth listening to with others opinions and what is not?

That's the question.

Me, I've grown to enjoy all the SW films. Yes, even AOTC.

But it's true. They're all fun.

So really just decide what you read and listen to and what makes sense and what does not. They're only opinions and everybody has one, or thousands,millions.

 

Another thing to remember... PT "Hate" is largely something that exists inside of SW fandom, internet message boards, etc. Your neighbor might say, "yeah those prequel movies were kind of crappy" and if say back "really, I kind of like them" I guarantee you that 99% of the time the response will be like "oh, really?". People just don't care that much outside of forums like this.

I've never had anyone in real life seriously care about or judge me on what kind of movies/books/TV shows I enjoy

 

True that brotha.

 

Exactly. See my sig for further detail. The very reason I haven't changed it in nearly three years

 

I'm using this as more so a test. I've been getting into some psychological stuff lately, so I see more than "it's just a matter of opinion" I see this as a certain social construct.

I guess I over think things too much.

 

Most of my church dislikes the PT strongly.

"We love Jesus but hate that satan induced prequel trilogy!"