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Sac, CA Time to stick it to the man. Sacul-1138 needs your help to fight KDVS 90.3fm's reign of oppression.

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  1. sacul-1138

    sacul-1138 Jedi Youngling star 5

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    this is a long read sorry. (If you like you can skip the reasons for the war and go right to my request for help)


    The reason:

    As some of you know I've been a part of KDVS 90.3fm in Davis in one way or another for years.

    Well during that time, I've helped produce three different shows, and met with mush frustration at every turn.

    You see the biggest problem down at that so called "free form" radio station is...it's not very free form at all.

    The place stinks of laziness, and politics.

    Basically if you don't play some form of punk music and conform to them your show will go far.

    First I helped Punkroge do his show, and after years of faithful listeners one program director kept on him trying to get rid of him, when he fought back he got a 3 month ban for his efforts.

    Then I started a show called the bottom line. We played Hip-Hop, Techno, etc, but what made the show different was our involvement with the listeners.

    We interviewed WWF star Sable, Porn Star Asia, found many companies to give us stuff to give out.

    We had DJ?s mix live on the air (I even tried my hand at It.)

    it was a good show, then when the schedule changed we found ourselves without a show. We fought and they admitted they made a mistake but refused to fix it and said next time we'd have a show.

    We didn't come back for 3 years.

    We've been back now for nearly two years, and in that time we've been shafted to the same 2-4am time slot while other DJ?s moved on to better slots.

    Then the DJ's in the spot we wanted were canned for breaking several FCC rules. We thought we were in.

    no. They give the show to a new DJ, who has since missed nearly every and had to have people fill in.

    Frustrated we took a meeting with the program director who said the other DJ was a temp replacement and the spot would be ours.

    Yesterday we were informed by the very same program director we would not be getting the slot, the reasons are bogus. They claim we repeat the same music too often (not true) and that next time if we can improve it'll be ours. It's a delaying tactic. That spot will never be ours.

    I've written a request to meet with the station's GM and the program director and fight, but I know this is a no win situation.

    I've seen allot of good DJ's leave for the very same reasons, and I know of only one that fought back.


    The Call to arms

    we have planned several salvos to be heard, but as I said it's a no win for us.

    But Theoden said it best:
    If this is to be our end, then I would have them make such an end, as to be worthy of remembrance.

    I would like to start by requesting anyone willing e-mail the core staff (thier e-mails are publicly posted on the website, but I'll provide them later)and just say whatever you will. (But not yet)
    All I ask is it say that you will not support the station nor give any money during their fundraiser.

    doesn't matter that you were not going to in the first place.

    Trust in this: you know me, this fight will be fun and I'll make it interesting to boot. I will ask nothing illegal of anyone. But we will breed chaos and confusion in the ranks.

    This is for anyone who hates censorship, who's ever been shut out by a group of people for having different ideas. It does not matter if you've ever heard KDVS. Doesn't matter if you even know me. All warriors welcome.

    More will come but this is how I'd like it to begin. Simple yet effective.

    I bend the knee and ask that anyone you know that would join the fight be asked. State wide, country wide, worldwide, extra-terrestrials anyone.

    LDV has pledged his banners to me in this fight already. I hope I can count on at least few others.

    Join The Rebellion of the Airwaves.
     
  2. JoeSunrider

    JoeSunrider Jedi Padawan star 4

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    *salutes*

    Waiting for your command, captain.
     
  3. Deadpool

    Deadpool Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Thanks Mr Sunrider.

    My first Salvo will be fired before the day is out. I have a war council with my Dj's tonight.

     
  4. ShaddowHunter

    ShaddowHunter Jedi Youngling star 1

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    My dearest Sacul

    It is said, that fear starts in the shaddows. For you cannot see what lies in the shaddows. Fear lives in shaddows. That my friend, is where I live. I am fear.

    Your fight is righteous, and will not be faught alone.

    The Shaddow knows of many devious plans of destruction, including that of management of a corrupt radio station. Most wars are faught on the field of battle, but I assure you my friend, whilst you keep the foe at bay on the field, the Shaddow will slither into their very beings, and disrupt their business machine with scandalous innuendos of betrayal and lies. Not to mention my typical folly of sexual scandals.

    'Tis quite fun actually. To sit and make someone sweat with fear.

    I shall join your fight, but I do not fight fair, I fight to win, and this will be a day long remembered. When the likes of the SVRF and the Shaddow, forced a radio station to its knees, and bend to our will.
     
  5. Deadpool

    Deadpool Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Ahh Fear and Chaos together, and that which is done in secret is twice as powerful.

    I give you my thanks for your sword of fear. may it cut deep.


    It is an army bred for a single purpose...to destroy the sanity of radio execs.
    (from Brightstar)
     
  6. Lord_Darth_Vader

    Lord_Darth_Vader Jedi Knight star 5

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    I see the Shaddow is here.

    I got your back bro. Lasers are cocked, locked and ready to rock
     
  7. Deadpool

    Deadpool Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Thanks peeps.

    We have our last diplomatic meeting with them this week. then unleash hell.

    (unless they bow down and give us what we want)

     
  8. Kessel Runner

    Kessel Runner Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I'll do what I can for my liege, saculio.
     
  9. TaintedJedi

    TaintedJedi Jedi Master star 4

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    *grins*

    The new guy will see what he can do...
     
  10. Deadpool

    Deadpool Jedi Youngling star 4

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    well I guess the new guy wont have to go over Folsom Bridge in the atomic wedgie gear after all.

    as an update I found out one of my Dj's was taken to the ER last night, he's fine but we are concerned about the man.

    I'll find out when this meeting is to take place soon I hope. But I'm sure it'll be the normal smoke up the arse thing we've always gotten. But SacPool's got some plans to make it fun.

    (like photocoping all the playlists to show that every show repeats music so that lie is an invalid one at that)

    thanks to all for the show of support. I'll keep you informed of how the battle goes.

     
  11. TionneHawk

    TionneHawk Jedi Knight star 5

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    I am right behind you along with the rest of the SVRF. I have only listened to your show once and while I don't care for the music, I can not condone censorship. You deserve a better time slot if only for all your long years of service. Loyalty should be rewarded.

    I had a feeling we'd get this group involved in politics somehow, even if it's only campus/city politics. ;)
     
  12. Kessel Runner

    Kessel Runner Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Don't get me started on politics ;) I can go on and on and on. That was probably the most annoying feature of Los Angeles to me. Nobody cared about politics at all.
     
  13. Lord_Darth_Vader

    Lord_Darth_Vader Jedi Knight star 5

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    Yeah KR and I are just about the most liberal people on the boards ;)
     
  14. Deadpool

    Deadpool Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Well I'm just about off to the meeting.

    Wish me luck keeping K.B from knocking someone out and getting arrrested.

    I'll be back with a full report.


     
  15. Lord_Darth_Vader

    Lord_Darth_Vader Jedi Knight star 5

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    Good Luck on the meeting
     
  16. Deadpool

    Deadpool Jedi Youngling star 4

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    We'll things went better then expected but not that good...yet.

    They gave into our demands when they realized they were in the wrong and we proved it.

    They "claim" they are giving us a shot at the time slot we wanted. alternating that is (which works well for me)

    naturally I do not think this is not the end of it. the schedule is not yet set in stone, it will be in a few days.

    and even so they could screw us later (highly probable)

    For now I'm still waiting to see who this turns out.

    In any case I want to thank everyone who answered the call to arms, I may still make my war, maybe even soon. but not yet.

     
  17. JoeSunrider

    JoeSunrider Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Aw, and I had my vat of boiling oil ready to go.

    I do so love the boiling.
     
  18. Lord_Darth_Vader

    Lord_Darth_Vader Jedi Knight star 5

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    "takes finger off detonator" damn...





    EDIT: By the way, this post, due to my use of the word detonator will be viewed by the NSA within 24 hours ;)
     
  19. Deadpool

    Deadpool Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Dang yo! you da bomb. for real yo. Now lets go to Bush Gardens on Vacation and read the satanic bible while waiting to the George washingtons to roll in from our new invention...the Bin Laden salad shooter.

    heh heh.



    Don't worry the war may still come. They are messing with Roger's show now too (again)

    Or we could just call war on someone else at random. that'd be fun too.
     
  20. Lord_Darth_Vader

    Lord_Darth_Vader Jedi Knight star 5

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    LOL bomb, Bush, shooter, Bin Laden.... Yep, you and me bro. ;)


    If anyone wants to know, the NSA's super program is called "The Carnavore" it picks out certain "words" on every line of network on the internet, including IM's, emails, and forums. Scary ain't it? ;)
     
  21. Jedi_Tenken

    Jedi_Tenken Jedi Master star 4

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    Hey SV Rogues, :)
    Sorry I haven't visited in a while, I'm been kept busy by Genentech and at least a half dozen side projects... all insanly important. Man I'm tired... :eek:

    Radio tyranny, there's a new one. Hmmm... Unfortuantely I have no offensive prowess in this realm of battle however I learn fast and know many many many people... Though I'm sure Shaddow had something special planned as is, so you guys are fine. ;)

    LDV! Dude that NSA thing is for real? Whoa... I thought it was just a cocked up story from "Enemy of the State"... Interesting...
     
  22. Deadpool

    Deadpool Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Genentech? In Vacaville? or do they have a lab in the Bay Area somewhere?

    My cousin in law works out there (Vacaville), I should hit that fool up for a job.

    So hot young female exec needs an assistant I'm sure.

    Well after I've had some time here's a breakdown of how it went.

    Here's a rundown of the meeting: The Cliff Notes Version.

    I walked in and first I was shocked to see Pete after all that happened. But more shocking is Byron trying to explain the "f You" e-mail" and he's in full brown nose mode. But only the GM Teresa is there.

    I take a seat and I start to try and get Byron to shift back into Angry B mode a little by simply explaining the frustation that led to that e-mail and how the station just kept us in the dark and then only popped up to say "no you suck"

    Teresa is staring at me.

    Then Jordan shows up and Byron moves into brown nose mode again.

    I tried to do the same to push B back on the offensive but only Pete joined me. My fear was Jordan would try and push us back to that same spot and B would let him do it if he didn't get a bit aggressive. Jordan is scared of us we needed to use that. just a little.

    Teresa is still staring. so I stare back. She blinks first.

    So Jordan says his issues with the show and how he's been burned by a Hip hop show in that time slot once already.

    Teresa is staring again.

    To which me and Pete jump on him with a "that wasn't us though, you can't hold that against all hip hop shows"

    Byron explained away most of his issues with repeated music, and now he's backed into a corner.

    So Byron's playing good cop, I'm playing Dangerous Sexy White Boy Cop, and Pete's the silent Cop.

    Teresa tries to explain that even she didn't get a safe harbor time slot and she's the GM.

    I tell her she's more then welcome to pop on the guest Mike anytime she wants (dang I'm clever, I bet she didn't put that one together for a least 60 seconds after, maybe more)

    Jordan talks mindlessly for another 10 minutes while B plays off every bit with good cop.

    Pete and I exchange rolling eye looks.

    Teresa is staring again. (I begin to wonder if I have a magic nose goblin hanging out)

    I bring Bad cop back to the table about how the Dj he saw fit to put in that spot has had someone sub the spot nearly every week. and go on the attack with how we had a meeting with Jordan at the time and he said he'd listen and give us any suggestions to help us get the time slot but otherwise it's ours. When we heard not a word from him we took that as a greenlight that all was well.

    Teresa is still staring. I make eye contact and smile and look away.

    Jordan is on the ropes. He back shifts and starts saying he'll try us out at that slot and maybe we can alternate. (which is great for me)

    We all tell him that's all we want is a shot.

    He asks Teresa what she thinks (she's been nearly silent for the entire meeting)

    She looks at all three of us. I put my hand over my mouth and in low voice "Give the guys a shot you know you want to) *full Sith mind trick.

    She passes the buck right back on Jordan and tells him "I trust you"

    Jordan is alone in the fight. No back up, it's over.

    Jordan gives up and we win. for now.

    I'm taking a "I'll believe it when I see it" stance on it. and even after that we could get screwed over next time.

    *Notes:
    Every single time I'm around Teresa she's staring at me. I have no idea why. I've asked other Dj's if she does this to them and they have no idea what I mean. if I had to guess I would think I look like someone from her past. This could be a bad or good thing. I've heard all my life when I meet people "do you have a brother?" or "Do I know you" that type of thing.
    At any rate She's handing over the controls to another very soon. But she will still be down there doing a show.
     
  23. TionneHawk

    TionneHawk Jedi Knight star 5

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    Well, I'm glad it went somewhat well. I'll keep my fingers crossed for your show. Buncha beurocratic nonsense in my opinion.

    LDV, that NSA thing is scary. Though with your previous experience with the government I should think they already have a file started for you. ;)
     
  24. Lord_Darth_Vader

    Lord_Darth_Vader Jedi Knight star 5

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    Glad to hear that Sacul. I feared something lurking in the shaddows would crash their web site for a couple of days.


    And yes Tionne, there are 13 main internet providers/servers in the world. 9 are here in the US. 1 in Australia and the others are in Europe. Different provider/servers have root directories - meaning .com - .net - .org - .gov - etc. So anything with a ending root file such as .com is sent to one sever and then the ip address is read backwards "com.starwars" it tells the server where to send your packet (your input onto the internet, which could be an enquirey to a web site, an email sent or received, or an IM to someone) the "starwars part is serached as to which server it is located. I believe starwars.com is on the Stanford's server. It was on MIT's until a big switch was made.

    Now, with that little bit of information on how the internet works - the Carnavor searches all 13 servers with a list of words. And each packet, including web sites that have words on that list are snatched off the internet highway and are examined for their content. Now, this is a mind blowing amount of information. That is why, the NSA has 2 or 3 "Areas" the size of the ARCO Arena, underground, filled with super computers deciphering these packets. And Carnavor is the only one I can tell you about. I know of three other programs that work along the same lines but have more damaging effects on computers. Then there are more I don't know about. Each of these software programs run anywhere between $150,000 - $2,000,000. Very expensive but very effective.

    Makes ya wonder after typing in words like shoot, kill, murder, bombing, anthracks, bio chemical, anarchists, nuclear bombs, dirty bombs, terrorists, suicide bombers, assasination, jihad, hamas, palastine, islamic jihad, explosives who is reading this. Does the name George Orwell and the book "1984" ring a bell?? Big Brother ;)

    "High everyone at the NSA!!"


    And yes Tionne, I have a mile long list with the government. ;)
     
  25. JoeSunrider

    JoeSunrider Jedi Padawan star 4

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    All I can say is o_O
     
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