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Tommy Gun dimensions/details

Discussion in 'Costuming and Props' started by Raph1613, Jul 1, 2008.

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  1. Raph1613

    Raph1613 Jedi Master star 4

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    Hi everybody.

    I recently stumbled across some one's online photo album where they'd gone and built an Aliens pulse rifle, based around a Tommy Gun. Because I was really tired at the time, I can't remember where I found that album.

    I'd love to know what the actual dimensions of every part of a Tommy Gun are. If I can build one, then I'll hopefully take the next logical step and build a pulse rifle around it.

    Thanks for any info and pictures.



    P.S. I seem to recall that there were at least two different models of Tommy Gun.
     
  2. Evil-Henchman

    Evil-Henchman Jedi Master star 4

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    The Tommy Gun that the "actual" pulse rifles were built upon was the Thompson M1. It has a side-cocking lever where as the older versions of the Tommy Gun have a top-cocking lever. If you have about $600 to $800 you can always buy the airsoft version (which is a kit built around an airsoft version of the Tommy Gun).

    As for dimensions, perhaps a Google search using the proper search terms will turn them up right away. You might try here to see if they have any useful info. Another excellent site is www.m41a.com. They have a lot of info on building your own pulse rifle.
     
  3. Smiling-Otter

    Smiling-Otter Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Check with the good folks at www.scifimilitary.com - I know they're working on manufacturing the external shell of the pulse rifle.
     
  4. AramysStrael

    AramysStrael Jedi Master star 4

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    You may want to try Cushman Paintball Online.... he manufactures custom-made paint markers, as well as non-firing replicas of real and some sci-fi weapons. I would also check him out... he is most likely the site you were referring to.

    - Bill
     
  5. abodeofthedamned

    abodeofthedamned Jedi Youngling star 1

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    For $500 USD, you can buy a Pulse Rifle conversion kit over at Monsters in Motion. It's designed to fit around a Thompson M1A1 airsoft rifle (Probably Tokyo Marui).
     
  6. navarre1095

    navarre1095 Jedi Master star 4

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    You might try TK560's site.
     
  7. Raph1613

    Raph1613 Jedi Master star 4

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    You guys are awesome!!!

    Thank you all very, very much!

    This will give me a great starting point.
     
  8. AramysStrael

    AramysStrael Jedi Master star 4

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    Glad to help...

    - Bill
     
  9. Jedi_Reject_Jesse

    Jedi_Reject_Jesse Force Ghost star 7

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    I got a solid resin replica for 50 dollars in an Ebay auction.

     
  10. Evil-Henchman

    Evil-Henchman Jedi Master star 4

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    Nice. :)

    I actually want to buy a legal semi-automatic Thompson M1 rifle replica and modify the airsoft kit to fit it. Sure it will have a longer barrel (to be legal) but it will be fully functional and turn heads at the target range. Unfortunately sighting it in will be a pain.
     
  11. AramysStrael

    AramysStrael Jedi Master star 4

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    It is possible to get the 10 inch barrel... but it requires getting the necessary paperwork from the ATF and something like $300 (I think) to get yourself the Class III Federal Tax Stamp on the weapon. And it can take up to a year to get approved as well...

    - Bill
     
  12. Evil-Henchman

    Evil-Henchman Jedi Master star 4

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    In Oregon (where I reside) I would only need an SBR (Short Barrel Rifle) license which is a lot easier to get than a class III firearms license. However I think I would have to notify the "law" whenever I was transporting the weapon (where and when) from one location to another such as to the range and back... lame.
     
  13. Jedi-Loreen

    Jedi-Loreen Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Hey, Bill's in Oregon, too. [face_dancing]
     
  14. AramysStrael

    AramysStrael Jedi Master star 4

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    Yes I am...

    My buddy is a WWII re-enactor and one of the things the club was specific about was that he had to convert his Tommy Gun to the 10 inch barrel if he wanted to use it at events. Just like in the 501st and Rebel Legion, they pride themselves on having everything completely 100% accurate and/or 100% reproduction accuracy.

    We both live here in Oregon. The information he was given by the BATF was that he had to get that Class III Federal Tax Stamp. As long as he kept the paperwork on him at all times, Johhny Law couldn't touch him for having a modified Tommy Gun.

    Where in Oregon are you Evil?

    - Bill
     
  15. Evil-Henchman

    Evil-Henchman Jedi Master star 4

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    A class III license is needed for fully automatic weapons. I only want a semi-automatic version of the Thompson. An SBR license is needed for barrels under 16 inches for rifles that are semi-automatic or single-shot. However there may be a limit on size so perhaps a 10" barrel needs a class III whereas perhaps a 12" barrel only needs an SBR... or perhaps your friend's Tommy gun is fully automatic thus explaining the need for a class III license. This is all stuff I looked up for the state of Oregon so I'm not just talking out of my rear here. I wasn't interested in finding out if there was a minimum barrel length with an SBR license so I really don't know if there is one.

    I live in Bend, you?

    EDIT: According to a gun shop employee that I spoke with, a barrel length that is under 20" but is 16" or longer is considered a youth-sports rifle (at least in Oregon) which is why Berreta CX4 Storms are legal here. Yes, I own one.

    Sorry to go off topic all. I'll shut up now.
     
  16. AramysStrael

    AramysStrael Jedi Master star 4

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    My buddy's Thompson is a semi-auto put out by Auto Ordinance.

    I am in Oregon City, just South of Portland.... dude, why aren't you posting in the Oregon FanForce???

    - Bill
     
  17. Evil-Henchman

    Evil-Henchman Jedi Master star 4

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    I don't post much and the Fan Films forum is where I hang out. I just come over here to check on the "LED" thread and other threads regarding saber props.
     
  18. DARTHLARS

    DARTHLARS Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I saw that an online retailer of toy/airsoft guns sells returned guns as parts for $40. You will not need all the parts that come with the full gun anyway. (Info for the full gun)
    $40 is a whole lot cheaper than $180! I just wanted to pass this along to people who build it.

    But will it be enough of the Tommy gun for the Pulse Rifle, and is it to scale?
     
  19. AramysStrael

    AramysStrael Jedi Master star 4

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    Turns out I was mistaken..... my buddy does have the SBR license. I thought it was something else... my bad!


    - Bill
     
  20. Evil-Henchman

    Evil-Henchman Jedi Master star 4

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    It's all good.
     
  21. Raph1613

    Raph1613 Jedi Master star 4

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    DARTHLARS, you may have just saved me a LOT of exhaustive research! Thank you!

    Now to get an extra $40. Not so easy with SpoCon right around the corner.....




    EDIT:
    P.S. Does anyone know if these airsoft guns are to scale?
     
  22. Raph1613

    Raph1613 Jedi Master star 4

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    Disregard my last Post:
    Judging by a refference video that I saw, the gun appears to be accurate in size!

    [face_dancing]



    Now to figure out how to get the extra money. It's at a perfect price, and I'm strapped.....
     
  23. AramysStrael

    AramysStrael Jedi Master star 4

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    I wouldn't think of suggesting anything illegal..... but donating bodily fluids will bring in some dough! :D

    Blood, plasma.... they pay some.

    -Bill
     
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