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Discussion in 'Oceania Discussion Boards' started by The_Scream_Man, Jan 4, 2003.

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  1. The_Scream_Man

    The_Scream_Man Jedi Knight star 5

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    Ok, I was prepared to see thismovie and like it but OH MY GOD! This movie is INCREDIBLE! i loved Titan AE and Atlantis and a lot of the recent 'serious' animated films tht have come out of the states, but this blows them all out of the water.

    the animation is top notch, with some great effects on the ships especially. The skyboarding sequence at the start is worth the admission alone, and it doesnt stop there!
    The characters are great. Jim Hawkins (lead) is likeable and cool, Silver isnt a 1 dimensional villain, Ben is funny and the Captain is SO cool!
    In terms of plot, I cant really remember the original story of Treasure Island to well, but a couple of scenes sprung stright from my memory. And aside from that the story is great! The plot holds together well and there a couple of laugh out loud moments (Star Trek fans look for a joke from the OS)

    And everyone take note of the name of the ship! See if u can spot the homage!

    If u love cartoons, sci-fi or just a good action flick, treasure Plane tis the film for u!
    2 BIG thumbs up!
     
  2. Shadowfire

    Shadowfire Jedi Master star 4

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    LIES!

    The best animated film ever created is the PowerPuff Girls Movie...

    Well, at least I presume so... since Hoyts didn't show it after 3 pm Monday to Wednesday and I never got to see it.

    Bastards.

    RIOT!
     
  3. TheOzhaggis

    TheOzhaggis Jedi Master star 5

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    Ok, I haven't seen it - and probably won't - but two problems I have from seeing the previews -

    1. Treasure Island ... IN SPACE? What's wrong with the original? Do they think kids won't watch a movie unless its set in space? Or are they just too lazy to draw lots of water? I dunno, just looks a bit weird - pirate ships in space? Oh well.

    2. 3d + 2d just doesn't do it for me. Sorry, but it just really annoys me when they have amazing 3d cgi graphics and then stick flat 2d characters on top - not that I have a problem with 2d, I just don't think they look good mixed together like that ... or is it just me? Same thing with Titan AE - enjoyed it, but the whole 2d/3d thing just looked ... i dunno ... odd

     
  4. JediMasterKieca

    JediMasterKieca Jedi Master star 4

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    Funny, I wasn't even aware that the Power Puff Girls had been around when it had, didn't hear one thing about it.
    Not advertised publicly much?
    Or is it along the same lines as many good quality French films, no advertising, but the film buffs and critics rave over it? That must be it...


    :p
     
  5. The_Scream_Man

    The_Scream_Man Jedi Knight star 5

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    Oz:
    1) Actually the story has some pretty different story parts as well. I cant say anything without giving things away, but Im pretty sure that the end is all pretty much made from scratch.
    2) Titan AE's major fall done was in its mix of CGI and 2D animation. While each was nice, together the 2 didnt blend properly.
    Disney however, improved on that. Tarzan had a perfect mix of the 2, Atlantis followed the trend and improved it, and Treasure Planet keeps the trend. I think the only times i thought about it technically were 2 moments here i was trying to figure out if Deep Canvas was the program they used (Deep Canvas bveing the program used in Tarzan).

    Oz, u are missing out BIG TIME if u dont go see this film. Forget about Treasure Island, and go see this film for what it is. Its VERY worth the effort.
    Hell, come to Sydney and Ill see it with u!
     
  6. messicat_kenobi

    messicat_kenobi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    When I saw the trailer for that, my first thought was "What would Robert Louis Steveson think?". My favourite adaption of Treasure Island is Muppet Treasure Island, one of the greatest movies ever :D lol, I should like to go and see Treasure Planet, to see how the story has been adapted for this new presentation, somehow I have a feeling that school has warped my mind, I'm sure I didn't used to think like this!
     
  7. dp4m

    dp4m Mr. Bandwagon star 10

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    My problem with this film is the same as with a bunch of other Disney films -- Disney revisionism.

    "Hey -- this material's not too kid friendly. What do we do?"
    "Change the material!"

    I mean... c'mon. Changing the moral of morality-laden fairy tales is one thing, and I can deal with it for the most part (see: The Little Mermaid). But when they actually change literary works or history (see: Pocahontas) -- I have issues. (This is why I have yet to see Hunchback or Pocahontas).

    And, yes... the Muppets did the same thing -- but the Muppets never said "Oh, let's do a faithful retelling of Treasure Island" with some gimmick (like putting it in space). They did a MUPPET version of Treasure Island. And the live-action version from the 70s that many of us grew up with was darker than the animated film and was rated "G," so kids could handle it.

    But yes -- the animation here was top-notch. Really, really good. :)
     
  8. The_Scream_Man

    The_Scream_Man Jedi Knight star 5

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    I dont think it was that at all. In fact it was influenced by (Memory stretching) another work, I think a comic, which had pirate ships in space. Originally Disney WAS going to do Treasure Island, but one of the creatrs pitched this idea and showed the comic and they went with it.

    I honestly look at it as a different work. The story is different, outside the basic plot. And Im pretty convinced the film ends differently to the original story.

    I already wanna get this on DVD
     
  9. Teknobabel

    Teknobabel Jedi Master star 5

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    Seeing as though there is a little cyberpunk influence, i'm gonna see it on wednesday.

    if it turns out the way i think it will, I'm willing to state that the matrix has affected the minds of the folk at Disney.
     
  10. The_Scream_Man

    The_Scream_Man Jedi Knight star 5

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    Unless u read things differently to me, it hasnt got anything to do with the Matrix.
     
  11. TheOzhaggis

    TheOzhaggis Jedi Master star 5

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    Well, I'm just wondering how Disney can have the villain fall to their death from a crumbling cliff ... in outer space?

    ;)
     
  12. ROE_Biggs

    ROE_Biggs Jedi Padawan star 4

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    i saw this also. I wasnt as impressed as Scream but it is a very very good movie. definately a must see.
     
  13. Syrix_Kahl

    Syrix_Kahl Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I haven't seen the film myself, but no doubt your concern is perhaps slightly unwarranted.

    After all, I too wondered:
    - Why the King Triton let Ursula continue to live (let alone practice her dark magic), especially so close to his palace.
    - How on earth the Sultan didn't see that Jafar was evil.
    - How Geppetto could misplace a wooden puppet.
    - How a young Simba could out run a pack of Hyenas, or even how an adult Simba could fight his way through an army of Hyenas to reclaim the throne.
    - How anyone could pay to look after 101 Dalmations.

    I'd say it's all just a bit of fun, not meant to be taken literally. Besides, since there is no gravity in space, he'd continue to travel in whatever direction he was heading until he either a) died of old age or b) hit something.

    :D :D
     
  14. dp4m

    dp4m Mr. Bandwagon star 10

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    I dont think it was that at all. In fact it was influenced by (Memory stretching) another work, I think a comic, which had pirate ships in space. Originally Disney WAS going to do Treasure Island, but one of the creatrs pitched this idea and showed the comic and they went with it.

    No, they were expressly billing it as "Robert Louis Stevenson's classic story" in space. And all the characters were named the Treasure Island character names.

    At least they were marketing it that way here -- maybe they were saavier Down Under than they were up here. ;)

    It started out right -- what with the pirates and all. But the stuff towards the end... ugh!
     
  15. The_Scream_Man

    The_Scream_Man Jedi Knight star 5

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    Oz: I dont understand what u mean. That doesnt happen in the film?


    The artificial gravity on the ship is pretty cool though. Kinda funny :)

    Before anyone has a complain though: It never explains how they breath in space. U just have to acdept that they can.

    They do market it as the Robert Lewis Steenson story come to life, Im just saying that the reason they chose this was because of ahn old comic. At least im pretty sure, Im still trying to remember where i heard this...
     
  16. Ayla_Kenobi

    Ayla_Kenobi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I'm going to see it tomorrow. Saw the trailer for it and I thought it was fantastic. :D
     
  17. foxy_kenobi

    foxy_kenobi Jedi Master star 4

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    Well, I really liked it too :) The captain was great, hilarious!
     
  18. TheOzhaggis

    TheOzhaggis Jedi Master star 5

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    Scream: it was a Disney joke - they have a habit of having their villains fall to their deaths: Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, Lion King, Dinosaur, Beauty and the Beast, etc.


    But who doesn't? Even SW does it enough: Darth Maul, Emperor, Boba Fett, etc...

    People just love having a villain fall at the end of a story...

     
  19. The_Scream_Man

    The_Scream_Man Jedi Knight star 5

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    The only person who falls in HTR is Paul

    Does that mean he's evil.

    Come to think of it, the villains fall in tarzan and (I think) Atlantis too...
     
  20. TheOzhaggis

    TheOzhaggis Jedi Master star 5

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    Yup - the villain is punished and dies a very poetic and symbolic death - and the hero doesn't get any blood on his/her hands ... very Disney
     
  21. The_Scream_Man

    The_Scream_Man Jedi Knight star 5

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    Ive always thought the end of Tarzan was pretty scary. I imagine a kid watching it would flip out!
     
  22. Somebody_For_Someone

    Somebody_For_Someone Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I do *not* believe that this is the best animated film *ever*...even tho from what i've seen it does appear to be pretty good...





    You're forgetting Shrek, Toy Story, and all the other stuff...
     
  23. Shadowfire

    Shadowfire Jedi Master star 4

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    You are also forgetting Puff the Magic Dragon!

    Stop laughing at me :(
     
  24. The_Scream_Man

    The_Scream_Man Jedi Knight star 5

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    Shrek, TOy Story etc I think are a different class of films. I think of them as CGI films. Animated films are done on cels.


    And Puff the Magic Dragon....well...no.
     
  25. TheOzhaggis

    TheOzhaggis Jedi Master star 5

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    But TP is also cgi - its just the characters that are done on cells.

    And the characters may be cgi too - from a certain point of view ... there's a lot of 2d animation work done on pc now ... drawn in using tablets, etc. and even hand drawn art is usually scanned into a pc and hand painted these days - any idea how much paint it takes to colour a whole film? and how much that costs?

    of course, i have no idea. i'm just rambling...

    :)
     
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