Ummm, how did Yoda, Obi-wan and Bail explain Padme's death to her people?

I've been wondering about this for awhile, how did Obi-wan, Yoda and Bail explain Padme's death upon their arrival at Naboo? I mean, they brought her home to Naboo (dead), they couldn't just dump the corpse off at her parent's house.
I believe that the people of Naboo would want an explanation as to why their former leader/hero ended up dead and apparently pregnant. Also I believe her parents should've known the full extent of their daughter's relationship with Anakin, doesn't Obi-wan or Yoda owe them that? Could'nt one of the children have been left with their grandparents? I don't see the difference between letting luke/leia grow up on Naboo instead of Alderaan. I am sorry if this has already been discussed, but these questions have been nagging me for awhile.

 

I believe they told them that she was killed with other senators when Order 66 went down.

As for the Leia being raised with her grandparents on Naboo, I think Anakin would have been like..."hey, that's my daughter!..."

 

Perhpas Obi-Wan thought that Vader would first look at Padme's parents' house. It seems logical.

 

I doubt that Obi-wan and yoda explained the death out of fear of being spotted by anyone on naboo.

The reason why luke and leia weren't raised there was because naboo was brought under the empire, and any force sensitive children such as themselves would probably be ordered to be terminated by the emperor.

 

Since the Skywalker wedding was held at the Lake on Naboo, I imagine the Naberrie's knew about it.

Everyone on Naboo saw Padme's seemingly pregnant body carried through the city of Theed so her death was very public. Since the Emporor told Darth Vader that "he killed her", I would guess that Darth Vader is Padme's murderer of record. I seriously doubt Palpatine would say such a thing if it were going to be refuted by every citizen of his home planet.

 

Yah. They probably said that Darth Vader had killed her, along with the rest of the Jedi and Senators.

 

Yup. And according to the Visual Dictionary (though I admit it is a dodgy source):

"Padme's parents Ruwee and Sola, sister Jobal, and Queen Apailana, are told that Padme was killed by the Jedi on Coruscant. No mention is made of Padme's pregnancy or where R2-D2 or C-3PO are. An investigation into who fathered the children would go against Naboo tradition."

Can I just say that last sentence REALLY offends me. Sounds like the Naboo don't seem to care too much about what a father owes to his children. Does that mean Naboo society is against a raped woman getting her child tested for evidence, or a paternity test done to determine child support?? Sorry if it's a little OT, but that just seems a little silly to me....

 

I think they meant Naboo Tradition was against autopsies or genetic tampering with the dead. They wish to be respectful to their passings.

 

Well, Obi-wan and Yoda really weren't around anyone after they went into hiding, so they wouldn't have to do any explaining. According to the visual dictionary, the family was told that it was the fault of the jedi and their rebellion that she died.

 

Ah, that could be a possibility too. Still v. fishy to me though. And I still find it sad that Padme's death was so covered up....I wonder how much was "Naboo Tradition" and how much was a cover-up by Palps, the Jedi and everyone else who surrounded her.

 

I thought they told them that the Jedi killed her, because 'the Jedi are evil' in the Empire's mind.

 

Ummm, how did Yoda, Obi-wan and Bail explain Padme's death to her people?


They appointed Jar-Jar, who spoke on their behalf. Then they high tailed it out of there.

 

Can I just say that last sentence REALLY offends me. Sounds like the Naboo don't seem to care too much about what a father owes to his children. Does that mean Naboo society is against a raped woman getting her child tested for evidence, or a paternity test done to determine child support?? Sorry if it's a little OT, but that just seems a little silly to me....

I think that meant men and women on Naboo are free to mate and breed without being judged by nosey neighbors. I bet there aren't a lot of republicans on Naboo.

 

Agent Skywalker said: "I thought they told them that the Jedi killed her, because 'the Jedi are evil' in the Empire's mind."

I agree -- in particular, I could foresee Obi-Wan taking the brunt of the blame. The UNOFFICIAL line might go something like this: HE took Padme (figuratively) from Anakin, who by that time was calling himself Darth Vader. The Chosen One knew in his cold, dark heart that he could have saved her had Obi-Wan not 'spirited her' away from him. So, from a certain point of view, Obi-Wan killed Padme (and Anakin along with her).

The 'OFFICIAL Empire penned obituary might go something like this:

By Imperial declaration, the Emperor, with His most proufound sadness, announces the death of His dear friend and Clone Wars hero, Anakin Skywalker. Skywalker was murdered by the Jedi as they simultaneously launched a coup attempt against the Emperor. Skywalker's unflinching support for Emperor Palpatine's bold government reforms made him the enemy the Jedi order which he bravely abandoned. Yearning to break free of the corrupted Jedi mold, Skywalker secretly marryied Senator Padme Amidala of Naboo, courageously humanizing himself in direct violation of the sterile Jedi code. Senator Amidala was accompanying her husban upon his ambush and execution while on Imperial business on the volcanic moon Mustafar. Senator Amidala bravely, boldly placed herself between Kenobi, his blood thirsty Jedi henchmen and her beloved Anakin, sacrificing her young and promising life in an effort to save her heroic husband. Senator Amidala was near full term with child at the time of her death. The child did not survive Amidala's attack. Skywalker's body was cast into the fiery molten pits of Mustafar upon Kenobi's harsh orders. The Emperor issued a galactic-wide delaration establishing Skywalker and Senator Amidala as the First Imperial Martyrs, and assures all good citizens that the outlawed Jedi order will pay for this most grievous and horrific crime.

 

All right, I don't want Jedi_Adonis's thread forced offtrack here....and I get your point jango...but mine doesn't have to do with the ppl of naboo being "nosy", it's more along the lines of "a pregnant woman has been murdered and the children are missing" - I would think her family would want to know if her death was related to her pregnancy/the father, IF they knew or suspected her pregnancy or marriage. It's also a point of "Naboo's senator was murdered" - I would also think that the ppl of Naboo would want a thorough investigation done as to who was involved and see justice done.

Not looking to start a big debate, just wanted my point clarified. But I won't post on it again, cuz I don't want to get too OT.

EDIT: Looking back over your post, I see your weren't being argumentative....I initially thought you were (sorry, sorta late, brain fuzzy) - so I just wanted to apologize if I sounded a little harsh.

 

I like the way of Jar Jar tried to explian it, ended up sayin he killed her and was murdered by a mob of angy people.

 

They lied. And they screwed the Naberrie's out of their grandkids. I'm sure they would have moved to Csilla, or any backwater, if they had to.

But Bail wanted to have a free kid, that he had NO right to just claim. It really makes me almost glad he croaks later. Thief.

 

But Bail wanted to have a free kid, that he had NO right to just claim. It really makes me almost glad he croaks later. Thief.

Good point. Another example of Jedi arrogance. Yoda and Obi-Wan have no right to decide the custody of Luke and Leia. Except maybe possesion is 9/10ths of the law.

 

Hmmmmm...leave the kids on Naboo where all the Naberries can be killed by the Empire, or leave them with the Organas and Lars, with the Naberries safe and sound and alive?

Oh yeah, no contest.

 

Well we know the Queen didn't know about her being pregnant I am sure her family knew and so did her attendnces.

Jar Jar I am POSATIVE didn't know she was with child.

If I was Obi-Wan I would tell them the truth, but seeing as Naboo is still part of the new Empire I would have to say that they told them some kind of lie like she was attacked by a driod or someone on Musfar and Anakin tryed to save her but was attaked, mutalated and horrable scared by the attack!

 

ah so stealing them and putting them in mortal danger later in there life is any different?

 

Ummm, how did Yoda, Obi-wan and Bail explain Padme's death to her people?

"Citizens of Naboo! Your Senator died because she...er, lost the will to live..."

Naboo Citizens:

 

Palpatine would find out about the Naberrie's having a new child or two out of nowhere.
The Sith come, and all hope is lost. So, the Naberries hit the road and take off. They're hunted down, and once again the children are Sithed (or destroyed) and hope is lost.
Bail had often talked about adopting a daughter (Alderaan appears to be very matriarchal). So, no one's too suprised if he should finally have a daughter.
It seems very unlikely that Vader would stop by to have tea with the Larses. If, for whatever reason, he did come down, Obi-Wan was keeping an eye on things.
It was simply too dangerous for the galaxy at large for the children to be caught. I really don't think the Naberries were close-minded enough to throw a hissy fit. Ruwee (I think that's the dad) seemed especially concerned with familial safety. He certainly would've understood.
Naboo and the Naberries were simply under too watchful an eye. If it wasn't for the adoption, Alderaan would be too. Tatooine? Who cares.

Bail probably told the family that Padme died by an unknown assailant. She had plenty of enemies. Palpatine apparently came by later and said a Jedi did it. They knew Anakin, a Jedi, liked Padme, so they probably assumed he died protecting the Temple and/or Padme. He was a highly celebrated war hero afterall.

 

Good question...

It was probably: "The little kid who saved your planed a few year ago killed your Senator and will kill every single one of you if you stand up to the new Empire."

 

Died during childbirth... pregnancy complications, take your pick...