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Underwater lightsaber

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Completed Shows' started by Ob-wan-shawa, Aug 29, 2005.

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  1. Ob-wan-shawa

    Ob-wan-shawa Jedi Youngling star 3

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    In the SW books I'v read a lightsaber dosn't work underwater. It shorts out. The books I remeber most that it goes out are the JA ones.
    Yet in Clone Wars ep 3 I thbnk. The Kit Fisto one he uses a lightsaber underwater, it's a lightsaber. The audio commentary says so.
    ???
     
  2. RevantheJediMaster

    RevantheJediMaster Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I think it was specially made to go underwater.
     
  3. JediMasterGuff

    JediMasterGuff Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    The official explanation is that Kit Fisto modified his saber so it would contstantly activate and deactivate exceedingly quickly as to stop it from shorting out.

    Back in the good old days of Dark Forces 2, however, Kyle Katarns saber also worked find under water.
     
  4. WiSe_SitH_LoRd

    WiSe_SitH_LoRd Jedi Youngling star 1

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    That can't be right, in the Clone War cartoon Kit Fisto's lightsaber works perfectly fine underwater, it doesn't deactivate or anything.
     
  5. Ob-wan-shawa

    Ob-wan-shawa Jedi Youngling star 3

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    It didn't seem like it was specially made from the hyperspace audio commentary. ( Yay 7 day free trial)
    It was like "we were wondering how a lightsaber would lok like underwater"
    a lightsaber. Not kit's specail.
     
  6. RevantheJediMaster

    RevantheJediMaster Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Well read Jedimasterguff's explanation.
     
  7. WiSe_SitH_LoRd

    WiSe_SitH_LoRd Jedi Youngling star 1

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    You should read my reply as well, I said that it didn't deactivate or anything in the cartoon.
     
  8. RevantheJediMaster

    RevantheJediMaster Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Oh, sorry.
     
  9. WiSe_SitH_LoRd

    WiSe_SitH_LoRd Jedi Youngling star 1

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    no worries :)
     
  10. JediMasterGuff

    JediMasterGuff Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    It is constantly activating and deactivating so quickly it's pretty much invisible to the naked eye, but we do get that weird effect shown.
     
  11. Ive_Got_Two_Legs

    Ive_Got_Two_Legs Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Then of course there's the fact that Luke's lightsaber in ESB and Obiwan's lightsaber in ROTS both get wet, but still work.
     
  12. JediMasterGuff

    JediMasterGuff Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    When? I can't remember anything like that. Closest thing I can think of is Obi-Wan in Episode 2 when he is fighting Jango on Kamino. The difference between this and Kit is that Kit's saber was fully submerged, whereas Obi-Wan's was getting drops of water on it. It would be a lot easier for the lightsaber to "evaporate" the small drops of rain that it would be to absorb the water surrounding Kit's lightsaber.

    If you're referring to Obi-Wan's saber getting wet on Utapau after he falls a looooooong way, then you should notice Obi-Wan never activates the saber underwater, he doesn't use it til he gets back to Coruscant - plenty of time for it to "dry out".
     
  13. Yoda_Jedi_Luke

    Yoda_Jedi_Luke Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Presumably, as he hails from the water dwelling species, Nautolans, Kit Fisto no doubt modified his lightsaber to work underwater. That and it was an animation where normal conventions don't need to apply.
     
  14. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    The thing with "lightsabers not working after getting wet" is based around them not working if they are activated when getting wet- if they are deactivated, its not a problem (thus why Obi-Wan, Qui-Gon and Luke's sabers still work after they get wet).
     
  15. _Sublime_Skywalker_

    _Sublime_Skywalker_ Jedi Master star 4

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    Theres no real answer for this,because you can never fully trust EU.

    I read 'Splinter of a Minds Eye' [Oldschool SW book,for those who don't know]and Luke says 'I don't know if my lightsaber works underwater,I've never tried it' and then uses it successfully to cut a vine holding a giant lilly pad.

    Also,remember chapter 19& 20, Anakin is holding his saber out in the rain,and as the water touches it,it just sizzles.
     
  16. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Obviously, Anakin's lightsaber works in water like Kit's ;)
     
  17. Dark_Jedi_Kenobi

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    I think that they are fine in rain [Obi-Wan's saber in AOTC on Kamino] but if fully submerged the short out.
     
  18. cbrowns4812

    cbrowns4812 Jedi Master star 1

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    I've never liked the idea that a lightsaber would "short out" under water. There's just something insulting about the idea that an ancient weapon, refined for centuries by the Jedi, would have such a weakness. Is there any viable reason why every lightsaber wouldn't be designed to work under water? Ideally, a lightsaber will be with a Jedi for his or her entire life. Would he or she not want the most versatile weapon possible?
     
  19. RevantheJediMaster

    RevantheJediMaster Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Below is info from the ROTS Scrapbook on Kit Fisto and his lightsaber.

    "An amphibious native of Glee Anselm, Kit Fisto wields a lightsaber that has two crystals that work on a bifurcating cyclicalignition pulse, allowing the weapon to function underwater."
     
  20. El Kabong

    El Kabong Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    I dont see whats so confusing about it. It's kind of like a wristwatch - a stock, off-the-shelf lightsaber wont work underwater. However a saber with the proper seals and equipment can operate just fine. Obiwan was using a more basic model on Naboo when he took a dunk and shorted his out. After learning his lesson, he waterproofed it and was good to go from then on (and stressed this to his padawan - who also waterproofed his for Luke on Mimban).
     
  21. Sarg_Kulo

    Sarg_Kulo Jedi Master star 4

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    Exactly
     
  22. phoenix-jedi

    phoenix-jedi Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Kit's lightsaber is as people think specially made. As he is a Nautolan he is made to be above and under the water and so to is his saber. The blade holds two very powerful crystals unlike other lightsabers which only hold one. Kit's saber can handle being in water as the crystal's create a stronger beam and there are two because if one should short out the other would kick in. This is also why his blade is apparently brighter than other green sabers. (I have not really checked this myself, however in my readings this is what I heard) anyways yeah hope that helps.
     
  23. LtNOWIS

    LtNOWIS Jedi Master star 4

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    "bifurcating cyclicalignition pulse?" Please tell me that was a joke...
     
  24. RevantheJediMaster

    RevantheJediMaster Jedi Padawan star 4

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    No that is what it says in the ROTS Scrapbook.
     
  25. JdieKnight

    JdieKnight Jedi Youngling star 2

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    bifurcating cyclicalignition = lame as "midichlorians"

    I agree there is no explanation on this inconsistent reliability of the lightsabers. Ignoring a customized Kit Fisto saber (he still dies like a punk with custom saber and all), so far we learned that lightsabers may resist ice on that cave in ESB, water from that lake when OBi fell in ROTS and rain water from that Asajj vs Anakin and Obi vs Jango duels. That we have seen on film. However, they also serve as a lame reason for Qui-Gon to "rescue" Obi-Wan and scold him off screen.

    Was there nothing else that Lucas could have used to do the master-student interaction between Obi and Qui-Gon on that TPM scene? Was this the reason why the scene was edited?

    Is the little details that killed the prequels. No wonder why most people raved about LOTR and just bashed the Star Wars movies. It upsets me because it could have been so much better given all the time Lucas had to plan these films.
     
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