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CT Vader's Funeral

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by Prisic Duskleap, Oct 25, 2015.

  1. Prisic Duskleap

    Prisic Duskleap Jedi Master star 3

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    Does anyone get teary eyed during the Vader funeral scene in ROTJ? It's sad that the only one that was there for Anakin at the end was his son. But I guess its beautiful in a way that it was his son's love for him that truly saved him in the end.


    How did you guys feel about it?
     
  2. Kenneth Morgan

    Kenneth Morgan Two Truths & Lie winner! star 5 VIP - Game Winner

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    Just before that scene, I'm laughing at Han's expression when Leia tells him that Luke is her brother. Then, a couple seconds later, there are indeed tears in my eyes during the pyre scene. It's a very touching moment, and one of the best scenes in the whole saga.
     
  3. Prisic Duskleap

    Prisic Duskleap Jedi Master star 3

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    Lol Han's face is so priceless in that scene. I heard a rumor that was Ford's legit reaction upon hearing that. And yeah Vader's funeral scene is my favorite in the saga. So sad but beautiful at the same time.
     
  4. lovelikewinter

    lovelikewinter Jedi Knight star 4

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    I always loved the quiet dignity of Luke burning Vader's suit.




    Sadly the Special Editions have destroyed that.
     
  5. Davak24

    Davak24 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    The scene is amazing, yes.
     
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  6. Darth Downunder

    Darth Downunder Chosen One star 6

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    Does anyone think it's odd for Luke to put Vader's mask & helmet back on? Why not just toss it aside on the floor of the Death Star? He'd unmasked Anakin from the identity of Vader, both literally & figuratively. Maybe he should've let Anakin have his funeral looking like his true self rather than the symbol of corruption & evil.

    Although the scene wouldn't look as cool.
     
  7. SateleNovelist11

    SateleNovelist11 Force Ghost star 6

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    It may have been filmed that way because they couldn't literally burn Sebastian Shaw. In-universe, I'm sure Luke was discrete about it because...people would only know him as Darth Vader.

    Prisic, yes, it is very moving, indeed. Anakin/Vader, although 46, may have felt older due to how damaged he was, and deep down, he wanted something more for himself than to be Sidious's slave. Love can be healing and redeeming like that.
     
  8. darkspine10

    darkspine10 Chosen One star 8

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    How was it destroyed? The funeral remains exactly the same doesn't it?
     
  9. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord 50x Wacky Wed/3x Two Truths/28x H-man winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    According to the newcanon reference work Star Wars In 100 Scenes, Anakin's corpse faded away shortly after death - with Luke only burning the armor.

    In the 1996 ROTJ Radio drama, Luke says these words:


    "I burn his armor and with it the name of Darth Vader. May the name of Anakin Skywalker be a light that guides the Jedi for generations to come… rest well, father. The Force is with you."


    So destroying the armor symbolizes "destroying the name of Vader" so to speak.
     
  10. SateleNovelist11

    SateleNovelist11 Force Ghost star 6

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    My bad. I forgot. I read that about ten years ago. I was just thinking a few months about about how he faded away.

    That makes sense. It's an affirmation of who Anakin truly was and that Vader's legacy was undone.
     
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  11. Seagoat

    Seagoat Former Manager star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Truly a beautiful scene

    Unless I was misinformed, I understand that the scene was as last minute as it could get - they called in Mark to film that even after the timeframe for pickup shots had passed!

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  12. SegNerd

    SegNerd Jedi Padawan star 1

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    GL confirms on the audio commentary that it is just some pieces of the Vader suit on the funeral pyre.
     
  13. Darth_Pevra

    Darth_Pevra Chosen One star 6

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    So that the Knights of Ren may find it all of course. :p
     
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  14. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    "This little scene where he burns his father's body, it wasn't originally in the script. But I decided it gave more closure in terms of Luke's relationship to his father, letting go of his father. "

    --George Lucas, ROTJ DVD Commentary.



    Yes, it was a late addition. It was filmed out on the ranch.
     
  15. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord 50x Wacky Wed/3x Two Truths/28x H-man winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    A good example of how "even commentary by Lucas himself, can be retconned" in the newcanon, where "body" becomes "armor".
     
  16. SateleNovelist11

    SateleNovelist11 Force Ghost star 6

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    True dat.
     
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  17. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Even though I have probably seen ROTJ several hundred times, I still tear up when Luke takes Vader's mask off, and during the funeral. And during the ROTJ novelization description of the scene.
     
  18. sarlaccsaurs-rex

    sarlaccsaurs-rex Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    One of the reasons I consider ROTJ the best film of the OT!
     
  19. Sarge

    Sarge 5x Wacky Wednesday winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    From 77 to 83, I was totally looking forward to seeing Vader get what's coming to him. I couldn't wait to see Luke ram his lightsaber right through that evil, evil man.

    And then I was so sad when he died...
     
  20. GregMcP

    GregMcP Force Ghost star 5

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    Id expect some of the pilots and troops down on Endor would be angry at the respect Luke was giving the Second Most Evil Guy In The Galaxy. There must have been some friction afterwards.
     
  21. JEDI-RISING

    JEDI-RISING Chosen One star 6

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    you know , probably if i'd seen ROTJ after the prequels it would get to me more. it's a moving scene, but i dont cry. probably because for so long it was more Vader's funeral to me than Anakin's
     
  22. Sarge

    Sarge 5x Wacky Wednesday winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    I got the impression that Luke performed the ceremony quietly and alone, not telling anyone what he was doing, because he wanted to avoid that friction with those who hated Vader. Now that he's dead, there's really nothing to gain by trying to convince people that he wasn't all that bad. Just let it go; I think that's the Jedi way.
     
  23. SateleNovelist11

    SateleNovelist11 Force Ghost star 6

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    I concur. It was Luke's private moment. He had a lot on his mind clearly.
     
  24. Lazy_Ewok

    Lazy_Ewok Jedi Youngling star 1

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    When ever I watch that scene I think for myself "that smell from the burning plastic must be horrible."
     
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  25. Rickleo123

    Rickleo123 Jedi Knight star 3

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    Yup, I'm seeing more and more examples of this in disney canon. Lucas "words/anecdotes" as actual canon dont mean much anymore unless it's confirmed on screen somehow. Disney can retcon/contradict anything it wants