Amph Waiting For Superman: Gunnverse DCU/Elseworlds (New Trailer!)

Probably, but that’s been my position since 2013 and I kind of want to hope again.

 

I'd be totally okay if Lex was building power suits from the start

 

“I lost my parents. That pain…made me who I am. I don’t know who I’d be without it. I used to put on a cape…as if fighting crime would bring my parents back. You actually did it.”
- Michael Keaton/Bruce Wayne, to the Flash


As a kid, Batman and Spider-Man were my favorite superheroes partially because I felt bad for them in light of their trauma of having lost their parents or a parental figure. The interesting thing is that Keaton’s Batman is the most alone and the most ruthless. Bale’s Batman got a happy ending, Affleck’s Batman made friends with the Justice League, and I guess Pattinson’s is the closest to being as grim and alone as Keaton’s.

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But in this movie, Keaton’s Batman actually got some friends.

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I actually liked this movie as much as Spider-Man: No Way Home. I hope we get to see Sasha Calle’s Supergirl again, and maybe we’ll see Keaton as a retired Bruce Wayne in a live-action Batman Beyond. I certainly hope so!

 

Well...

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"Earth-1" Bruce Wayne was also alone after Robin's death and brutal, as he was branding criminals. On Earth-Prime, Bruce disappeared one year after the Joker and Lucius Fox were killed and well after Robin had been killed. He had also been friends with Superman. Earth-99 Bruce Wayne not only killed his rogues gallery, but Superman when he tried to stop him. Earth-8 Bruce Wayne was brutal for years, before killing the Joker after Jason's death. So there's plenty of brutality, with only four variations who weren't.

 

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Honestly, I enjoyed the movie. But the first time I saw this, I was so shocked by all these cameos that I wanted to jokingly call this film The Crash. Lol.

 

Finally biting the bullet and watching the Zack Snyder cut of Justice League because on a certain level I hate myself. Never saw the theatrical version except the end fight on youtube so only know what's different because people have told me.

I keep telling myself ''I survived Monster A Go-Go, Manos: The Hands of Fate, and Beast of Yucca Flats I can survive this."

Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately) I saw the Pitch Meeting for this long ago and so many of the jokes are too true like the singing voice every time Wonder Woman comes on the screen or just does anything. An hour and half in I must've heard it 10 times at least. Or that most of the backstories involve vehicle accidents.

If there wasn't so much slow-mo it would probably be 2 1/2hrs long instead of 4.

 

As slow mo as ZS Justice League is the little bits in between the slow mo are gold

 

Why do you hate yourself so?

 

It’s the DC thread, if you weren’t self-loathing you wouldn’t post here.

 

Mystery Science Theater 3000 is one of my favorite shows so getting through a hilariously terrible movie is almost a badge of honor. Doing it without a commentary is like an endurance run- painful while it's happening but at the end feels like an accomplishment.

Specifically I started ZS- JL because 1. Cavil is my second favorite Superman and since he won't be doing the role anymore wanted to see the other full movie he's in. 2. Caught parts of Flash at the theater I work at and the ideas and framework seem interesting even if the execution is lacking. So that combined with talking about it at work made me decide to just rip off the band aid and go for it.

 

Speaking of Cavill, now that we’re in the death throes of the DCEU terrorsquid he’s apparently said in a podcast interview that he prefers the Whedon cut, which is not a twist I expected.

 

I'm not self-loathing.

I am not surprised. It certainly explains why he didn't give a definitive opinion on the matter, and given what was released by Snyder, you certainly can't blame him.

 

Counterpoint: you're posting here.

 

I have a great retort, but it would get me banned.

 

We can see it in not only his work with Batman, but when he worked on the JSA comic. Goyer was definitely not a problem so long as he has a filter. Snyder preferred the types of heroes like in "Watchmen", which fits in with his worldview.

 

The Flash and Superman race scene in the Whedon version is pretty grand. That Russian family terrorized by bugs was kind of dire and unnecessary. I mean it does sort of set up the race bit but not enough that the bit needed a setup

 

The DCEU could have been done so much better but it wasn't and now that we know that its coming to the end thanks to Gunn and Safran changes the movies they got coming out that are left aren't really being taken serious by the fans. Its like lets wait for the new stuff to come out since everything is going to change. On the other hand, DC on the CW was fantastic. I loved Supergirl, The Flash, Gotham Knights, The Arrow, etc. They weren't that bad and for television they rose the bar while their movie counterparts fizzled.

 

First positive mention of Gotham Knights I've seen, ever!

 

I have a brilliant idea. It will save movie studios, it will give audiences a better experience, and it will result in better movies.

Here's my idea.

Leave out the big CG battle at the end.

Simple but effective.
Because: it's been done. It's a slog. It's ugly. It's unsatisfactory. Leave it out.
You can bring running times back to 100 minutes, which really is long enough. You can save $100 million on production costs. You can spare us, the audience, this notion of being trapped in a world where all entertainment is the same. You can do something original with your ending.

Everyone wins!

 

The family being attacked by the Parademons was meant to take Barry off the board long enough to set up his tome travel run. Whedon just adjusted it to take Clark away as well, thus extending the fight and giving Diana and Arthur more time to fight Steppenwolf. The race itself at the end was just an easter egg for comic and animation fans. If anything, it was to lighten up the film.

 

Haha, exactly. That slow photography does add much unneeded minutes to run time.

Although, I recently watched ZSJL for the second time and thought it was sensational. I'm not a fan of his directorial style, but I respect it.

Mainly, I just love these DC characters from the comics I've read that it is entertaining and fun to see them work as a team on the big screen. And the attention and care given to Cyborg and his integral role in the plot adds so much. The Snyder cut is so much better than the theatrical, at least it is something positive, for me, out of the disarray that has been DC films.

 

I like both versions of Justice League but both have their drawbacks. Random example: Whedon version added so much superfluous stuff to cut out Snyder's stuff. Aforementioned Russian family. Reshoot Diana and Bruce exposition chat from Batcave to them walking along a lake because why...? Snyder version is too damn long and mostly humourless (There's a line when Stepenwolf is menacing a guy who says "I have a family!" Snyder: "Then you have weakness!" Whedon: "Why do people keep telling me that?") It kinda goes on. I certainly don't think the Snyder cut is an untouchable masterpiece. But Whedon cut way too much and added mostly lame but hint of gold (Aquaman lasso scene? Amazing). Also why cut Lex telling Lawton Bruce Wayne is Batman? You needed those 40 seconds?

Basically, two and a half hours. Maybe 2:45. Throw back in tighter edited Snyder stuff. Little Whedon bits ("Save one person." "What's with brunch?"). Maybe 85% Snyder with some Whedon flourishes