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Wampa Ice Cave Scene.. Why Didnt They Fix It??

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by IG-75, Mar 13, 2005.

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  1. IG-75

    IG-75 Jedi Youngling

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    Anyone noticed the blooper in the wampa cave scene? (Which happens to be one of my favorite scenes in ESB)
    When Luke is crawling out of the cave after slicing wampies arm off, he deactivates his lightsaber, but its still on! I would have thought with all the SE editing, someone might have noticed and fixed this scene..
     
  2. Jabba_Squiggle

    Jabba_Squiggle Jedi Youngling

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    Yeah, that's always had me scratching my head.

    I guess you could say it's a sound from the next camera shot, but heard before it switches.

    I don't know why they added the sound into the SE wampa scene.
     
  3. DarthJohnkenobi

    DarthJohnkenobi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I guess you could say it's a sound from the next camera shot, but heard before it switches.

    I don't know why they added the sound into the SE wampa scene.


    The sound was always there. It wasn't added in the SE. The only thing added in this scene is the Wampa eating and attacking. If you watch, as the noise is happening, Luke's blade is retracting, or getting smaller. He's also clipping it to his belt as he runs away. In the next scene, at the top of the snowbank, the noise is gone and Luke's saber it attached to his belt.
     
  4. Leias_love_slave

    Leias_love_slave Jedi Knight star 5

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    People keep complaining about the timing of a lightsaber sound effect...

    ...yet no one ever questions how Luke managed to get his feet frozen into the ceiling of the cave? :confused:
     
  5. clone3131

    clone3131 Jedi Master star 4

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    I just cant believe that in the first scene with the wampa attacking the taun-taun- when his arm comes up and takes out the taun-taun's head- you can see the pole on the end of the arm!

    so very distracting.

    CLone
     
  6. Deeysew

    Deeysew Jedi Youngling star 4

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    But Luke getting trapped is not a continuity issue. 8-} Plus the Wampa's an alien creature with special alien powers that probably allow it to trap it's dinner with a special adhesive ice stuff, like a spider does with silk.

    They need to fix some stuff for the next release though. Lets see Luke chop off the wampa's arm instead of him just taking a wild swing at something. After the SE and PT, nothing should be left to our imagination to fill.
     
  7. clone3131

    clone3131 Jedi Master star 4

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    nothing should be left for our imagination to fill???

    whats the point then? The entire saga has thousands of points for our imagination to fill.

    thats half the fun. thats why we are here.



    CLone
     
  8. DarthJohnkenobi

    DarthJohnkenobi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    ...yet no one ever questions how Luke managed to get his feet frozen into the ceiling of the cave?

    It's frozen Wampa saliva, or so says the EU.
     
  9. KMG-365

    KMG-365 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    After the SE and PT, nothing should be left to our imagination to fill.

    :D
     
  10. Ogmios22188

    Ogmios22188 Jedi Master star 4

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    I hope that was sarcasm.
     
  11. KMG-365

    KMG-365 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    ^ I'm guessing Wesyeed (or is it Deeysew) was being sarcastic. Which is why I "laughed" - I thought it was funny, in light of all of the "change everything about the OT" discussions.


     
  12. IG-75

    IG-75 Jedi Youngling

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    Ok just watched it again, I guess the lightsaber does begin to retract, but their timing was still off..
    Wampa Saliva? I always wondered how the creature got him up there as well.
     
  13. Techno-Union-Elite

    Techno-Union-Elite Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I never noticed that one, haha. I have noticed some other bloopers and unfixed scenes in the SE that should have easily be taken care of. For one, in ROTJ, the Emperor seems to have two different hues of black on his cloak during some close-ups. There are a few others but I'm sure that they have been disussed numerous times.
     
  14. Sith Magician

    Sith Magician Jedi Master star 5

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    Every film has mistakes in them, some have lots.

    Stop watching the films frame by frame and just enjoy them for what they are.

    Two different hues of black? Are you kidding me? Who cares?!
     
  15. Techno-Union-Elite

    Techno-Union-Elite Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Every film has mistakes in them, some have lots.

    Stop watching the films frame by frame and just enjoy them for what they are.

    Two different hues of black? Are you kidding me? Who cares?!


    I understand that it's a little irrational to look at everything with such detail. To me it's a matter of not getting my money's worth. The entire purpose of the Special Edition was to go back and fix all of the visual mistakes, technical errors, plot flaws, and add some new digital stuff.

    If they are only going to fix half of the mistakes and leave some out, then they didn't do their job as well. I'm not saying that they did a bad job--I mean I love the SE--but they still left some things untouched.

    Perhaps they will fix them in a SE2 or something. =\
     
  16. KMG-365

    KMG-365 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    The entire purpose of the Special Edition was to go back and fix all of the visual mistakes, technical errors, plot flaws, and add some new digital stuff.

    I must say, this is the first time I've ever heard that the purpose of the SE was to fix plot flaws. I never heard Lucas, or anyone else involved, state that. He did claim that it was to make it closer to his original vision, but that has nothing to do with plot flaws.

    The Emperor's hood looks fine on my SE DVD - perhaps it is your television ;)
     
  17. Techno-Union-Elite

    Techno-Union-Elite Jedi Youngling star 2

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    What I meant by plot flaws was inconsistencies. Hence the topic of this thread (Luke's saber). Bad word choice.

    EDIT: Oh yeah, as for the Emperor scene, I watched with a few of my friends and we noticed it. I think it's only during a few seconds of one of the close-ups during the end of ROTJ (before the Vader/Luke fight). You can see a blob of bluish-black. But yeah, perhaps it was my TV. I haven't checked on my new one.
     
  18. KMG-365

    KMG-365 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Again, I don't remember hearing George mention that the SE was to fix inconsistencies. If he was, he'd have made a heck of a lot more changes than he did.

    All I've heard said from official sources is that the SE was to fix some of the effects shots (some of which weren't fixed until the DVD release) and make it fall more in line with George's original vision.
     
  19. Techno-Union-Elite

    Techno-Union-Elite Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I wasn't quoting Lucas there, I was just listing my own observations.

    If you watch the DVD SE then you saw that Christinsen replaced the original actor for Anakin. I consider that a consistency fix.

    You might be right if they didn't fix any of the small things such as Luke's saber, but I haven't watched the film in enough detail to notice.
     
  20. IG-75

    IG-75 Jedi Youngling

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    Yeah I know that every movie has mistakes, nothing can ever be perfect, granted. However once you notice one of these annoying little glitches, its all you focus on, when you watch the scene! Most films dont seem to get re edited, re mastered and "fixed up" (debatable) as these films seem to..
     
  21. KMG-365

    KMG-365 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    ^ Ah, the DVD - SE2. ;)

    If he wanted to go back and make it completely consistent, he would have to go and make a boat load of dialogue changes. I don't see him doing that.

    And adding Hayden at the end was just plain stupid.
     
  22. Matt-trooper

    Matt-trooper Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I've never noticed that before. Now every time I watch it,Im gonna notice it.:(
     
  23. Sith Magician

    Sith Magician Jedi Master star 5

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    The entire purpose of the Special Edition was to go back and fix all of the visual mistakes, technical errors, plot flaws, and add some new digital stuff. [/i

    Where did you read that? I thought the entire purpose was to make more money....
     
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