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Was Admiral Daala incompetent or unlucky?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by SithGirl132, Mar 25, 2006.

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  1. SithGirl132

    SithGirl132 Jedi Master star 4

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    In all of the books featuring Daala, she always meets up with some kind of disaster or another (with the exception of Planet of Twilight.) Is Daala incompetent, making dumb mistakes, or is she just unlucky? I have a theory that Imperials are not permitted to win very often or very major battles. Is Daala a victim of this theory, or is she just a bumbling idiot?
     
  2. Ive_Got_Two_Legs

    Ive_Got_Two_Legs Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Can't it be both?
     
  3. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    Admiral Daala's primary problem is she's insane and an incredibly poor (I mean ABOMINABLE) strategist. She is certainly a capable tactician. She managed to defeat a Star Destroyer group on her own. She managed furthermore to handle a perfect defeat of a minor task force (She was overwhelmingly powerful to Kessels but it was still a victory). She also coordinated a successful assault on Dantooine....again massacre might be a better word.

    Her assault on Mon Calamari also nearly worked but was against Admiral Ackbar using a battering ram.

    Mainly, her biggest issue was that she filtered everything through her "Imperials are perfect! Tarkin is perfect!" insanity.
     
  4. Warsie

    Warsie Jedi Youngling star 2

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    unlucky. Yes, it is biased to have the Imperials keep losing, I hate that.
     
  5. wild_karrde

    wild_karrde Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Admiral Daala = Captain Janeway

    Make of that what you will.
     
  6. Fingolfin_Noldor

    Fingolfin_Noldor Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I think part of the problem was the way Kevin J Anderson writes his villians. Too simplistic.

    Though I'm of the opinion that Daala is just another buffoon.
     
  7. Zebra3

    Zebra3 Jedi Master star 5

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    Yeah, I think part of Daala's problem is that Anderson didn't do much to really develop her character.
     
  8. -Jacen_Solo-

    -Jacen_Solo- Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Daala isnt incompetent, she have bad luck.
     
  9. DARTH_MU

    DARTH_MU Jedi Master star 4

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    She's just unlucky.
    She's a brilliant strategist, but against Jedi, well. Jedi treachery! ARGH! Jedi scum must all die!
    Anyway, I don't know if any of you read my fic Joiner, but has anyone figured out who the unidentified AT-PT pilot is yet?

    Hehehe

    Yeah, Daala is the best imperial ever!
     
  10. AdmiralWesJanson

    AdmiralWesJanson Force Ghost star 5

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    [face_laugh][face_laugh]



     
  11. Darth_Foo

    Darth_Foo Force Ghost star 4

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    my impersonation of daala:

    "hey guys i just got a fleet of star destroyers to take on the new republic and finally bring the empire back to glory. time to choose our first target, i know! yavin 4!!! it serves no military purpose but the jedi are there and i hates jedi!! i mean what can a bunch of force users do against capital ships?"
    :oops:

    daala deserves an award for her stupidity. just 'cuz she's the anna nicole smith of the SW universe doesn't mean she deserves a fleet let alone troops to command
     
  12. Katana_Geldar

    Katana_Geldar Jedi Grand Master star 8

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    Yes, that is precisely the problem! It's not that she's a bad character, is that she's written by a bad writer.

    She would have redeemed herself IMHO is she had died on board her ship in Darksaber, but NO!!! KJA had to keep her alive even though it was a fitting end to her.

    Sorry, I've just got this major problem with KJA
     
  13. cyris8400

    cyris8400 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I think Darksaber could have been just as easily called Daala's Revenge, seeing as she came back and kicked 150% the ass she kicked in all JAT books combined within that one book.

    Plus: KJA re-introduced Pellaeon

    Minus: KJA re-introduced that damn same wampa from ESB

    A lot of the cases for pro-author, anti-author go:

    "But he introduced so much that is used in EU stuff today"

    "Yeah, in the same sense that Lucas is a horrible director but can churn out good ideas. The fact that they can make up good characters and settings doesn't take away from the fact that they can't even write them well."
     
  14. Katana_Geldar

    Katana_Geldar Jedi Grand Master star 8

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    Exactly, you might have something good but that doesn't mean you use it well. (Compare TPM to ESB for instance)

    The ONLY good moment I liked about Daala was in Darksaber when she killed all those imp commander. Now that's style! =D=
     
  15. masterskywalker

    masterskywalker Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    She's a git.
     
  16. Ordo

    Ordo Jedi Youngling

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    Not really on topic, but have we seen or heard about Daala since PoT?
     
  17. AdmiralWesJanson

    AdmiralWesJanson Force Ghost star 5

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    She lead a fleet of Deep Core warlords, was trounced by Bel Iblis, and rammed one of his interdictors to escape.
     
  18. Wes

    Wes Jedi Youngling star 3

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    She then made an uncalulated jump to hyperspace and hasn't been heard of since. NRI has refused to put her on the deceased list, given the fact that the list appears to have magical powers. Whenever they add one of their enemies to the list of any real importance or rank the person then reappears/comes back from the dead.

    NR scientists are still trying to work out how the mysterious list works.

    That is all true...until you get to the lies.

    I'd list her as unlucky. She had about as much success fighting the NR as any other Imperial.
     
  19. Panther50

    Panther50 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I'd say she was unlucky. How do you counter Jedi pushing your fleet away. Destroying the Academy should have been piece of cake.
     
  20. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    I blame George the Disgruntled Stormtrooper since apparently someone hauling 2000 pounds of Proton torpedoes to the engine room doesn't warrant questioning.
     
  21. ThrawnRocks

    ThrawnRocks Jedi Master star 6

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    She was crazy and a horrible leader and she couldn't fight a battle. Mon Calamari shows that she has enough skill to come up with that attack, however, she had plenty of time to think that through and prepare it. However, whenever anything goes wrong, or wasn't her plan, she has no idea how to react. She's not any more or less unlucky then any other post-ROTJ Imperial warlord, however her main flaw is that unlike all the other ones who were "big threats" to the NR, she is incapable of adapting to a situation. She tries, but she makes all the wrong calls. Let's give an example:

    Daala: Okay guys, we're going to crash a Star Destroyer into Coruscant! What fun! No questions? Okay, lets go!

    *Sun Crusher appears*

    Daala: Wait! Don't go to Coruscant! We must stay and capture the Sun Crusher! All guns open fire on the Sun Crusher, even though I very well know it is indestructible and can ram right through a Star Destroyer!

    BOOM



    And she barely escapes with one Star Destroyer.
     
  22. Wes

    Wes Jedi Youngling star 3

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    ^
    She wasn't crazy. Sure when she came out of the Maw she was a bit angry and violent, but she admits that. After that she seems to calm down and be more measured in her actions.

    She was not a horrible leader either. She managed to unite Warlord factions under her leadership and give the Empire a new lease on life by letting women and non-humans play a bigger role in the Imperial Armed Forces.

    She could fight, she just couldn't beat the good guys.
     
  23. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    Incompetent. And not just because she had the tactical prowess of an underdeveloped newt; because she had no plans for what she did other than "lub teh Empire! [face_love]"

    E_S
     
  24. ThrawnRocks

    ThrawnRocks Jedi Master star 6

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    I'd hardly call darkside Kyp in the Sun Crusher a "good guy."
     
  25. Sn4tcH

    Sn4tcH Jedi Master star 4

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    I can, but that Exar Kun fella that was possessing him, that guy was a jerk.
     
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