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Was Anakin really just teasing Padme?

Discussion in 'Archive: Attack of the Clones' started by WhiskeyGold, Jun 15, 2004.

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  1. WhiskeyGold

    WhiskeyGold Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Sorry if already talked about but I watched clones again last night. When Anakin is talk to Padme about the Senate and there should be one person that tells everyone what to think, was he joking? He tells Padme he was teasing her but it doesnt look like it on his face.
     
  2. BaronFel88

    BaronFel88 Jedi Knight star 7

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    IMO, this was an awkward scene, as I figured Padmé would be pretty offended by his remarks. But maybe she assumes he doesn't know any better and figured he was just joking.
     
  3. ThrawnRocks

    ThrawnRocks Jedi Master star 6

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    I think he belived this to a crtain extent. He wouldn't want the dictator to be evil, he would want the dictator to want what is in the best interest of all the ppl. Of course this philosopy of his will change over time. ;) This scene is just to show that he wouldn't be against the Empire.
     
  4. Lars_Muul

    Lars_Muul Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    As Lucas himself said, Anakin was serious about it, but when he realised he had gone too far, he turned it into a joke. That's why he starts smiling at her.
     
  5. Darth-Kevin-Thomas

    Darth-Kevin-Thomas Jedi Master star 5

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    i think the post above me makes the most sense. I believe he was serious and when it started to offend padme a little bit he change the subject and diverted her attention.

    Its vader talk comming out of him. I think as of know his intetions were good. I don't think he would have wanted a dictatorship like the empire.
     
  6. mixza

    mixza Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I think he was only half-kidding. I think Anakin figured that a dictatorship would work better but he couldn't really imagine it ever happening.
     
  7. BuffAnakin

    BuffAnakin Jedi Youngling star 1

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    As Lucas himself said, Anakin was serious about it, but when he realised he had gone too far, he turned it into a joke. That's why he starts smiling at her.

    Anakin: "Well, if it works." [face_devil]

    Padme': :eek: and [face_worried]

    Anakin: [face_laugh] "Just kiddin'!" :D

    ...gets up to go ride a big, ugly animal!


    THE END

     
  8. Phaeryx

    Phaeryx Jedi Youngling

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    I of course agree he wasn't kidding at first but had to turn it into a joke to save face.

    Great scene. Initially I didn't like it because I thought the talk of politics was too simplistic. Then I remembered that Anakin is only supposed to be 18, and politics ain't his thing. He's easily swayed by Palpatine's opinion on political matters. The world is simpler to him, so it makes sense that he would offer an overly simplistic solution which seems to display little familiarity with the system.

    Padme's response of "That's exactly what we do" is appropriate. But the way Christensen delivers that "Well, if it works" line, that's what does it for me.
     
  9. STARWARS_CC

    STARWARS_CC Jedi Youngling

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    I feel that his partial belief in dictatorship and one man systems made it easier for him during the transition to the dark side.
     
  10. Wrath_Mania

    Wrath_Mania Jedi Padawan star 4

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    In my opinion this was the best Naboo scene between Annie and Padme by far. No shakesperian fireplace drama, no talking of grumpy-wan kenobi, and no pervert Anakin talking about how Padme feels better than sand. It was a great scene.
     
  11. fosh-bantus88

    fosh-bantus88 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I dont care for this scene.

    anakin wasnt supposed to favor totalitarian oppression until it was for his immediate benefit and when all other life-styles seemed to lack fullfillment (epIII).
     
  12. ST-TPM-ASF-TNE

    ST-TPM-ASF-TNE Moderator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    anakin wasnt supposed to favor totalitarian oppression until it was for his immediate benefit and when all other life-styles seemed to lack fullfillment (epIII).

    Why wasn't Anakin supposed to? I think it works better if he believes in some form of dictatorship government before falling to the darkside. It adds more of a reason for him to turn, and it doesn't make him less of a good person (he has ideals that aren't the greatest, but he doesn't act upon them).
     
  13. Jedimancer

    Jedimancer Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I'm agreeing with ST. As seen in the Anakin-Palpatine scene in Episode II, Palpatines definitely been playing with Anakin's mind. It would make sense for Palpatine to try to convince Anaking a more dictatorship-like government would be better for the galaxy, and Anakin would probably eat it up, considering the Jedi's disenchatment with the political system.
     
  14. fosh-bantus88

    fosh-bantus88 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    the point of having anakin as a 10 year old boy in epI was to show that evil dosent start off as evil.

    by having anakin say something like this before any of the major trauma in his life happens, it makes you think he was evil all along.
     
  15. Jedimancer

    Jedimancer Jedi Youngling star 2

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    But he's not evil. He's just misled in his political views. You know, there's a lot of people today who are commies or socialists at least. I don't think they're all evil, but I don't agree with their political views. Yes, Episode I was supposed to show Anakin's innocence. But Episode II is supposed to show the beginning of his fall from innocence. And with Episode III, we get to see him lose his innocence completely.
     
  16. DamonD

    DamonD Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I've always gone wih the 'serious at first, then covers his tracks' theory about this scene.
     
  17. SLAVE2

    SLAVE2 Jedi Knight star 5

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    by having anakin say something like this before any of the major trauma in his life happens, it makes you think he was evil all along

    I don't think it shows him as evil, it shows that as Vader he must believe he is doing the 'right' thing for peace in the galaxy. Its all about looking at things from their own point of view, not just clear definitions of good and evil.
     
  18. openmind

    openmind Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Anakin only after noticing that Padme seemed irked by his comments, made it like a joke. Initially he meant it, no doubt having been "guided" by Palpatine which we already are aware of.

    We also do know the Senate has bickering, and squabbling delegates and someone needs to have a better control of them.

    It could be Anakin realizes that a "non corrupt" (ie non corrupt -good;corrupt - bad) someone and of course someone wise to handle matters. And no harm if "it works". [face_devil]


     
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