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Was Anakin turning to the dark side inevitable?

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by StarWarsFreak444, Apr 25, 2006.

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  1. StarWarsFreak444

    StarWarsFreak444 Jedi Master star 7

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    Was Anakin turning to the dark side ineviatable? was it fate?

    i don't really know
     
  2. Flames

    Flames Jedi Master star 2

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    No, I don't believe so. He didn't have to turn dark to bring balance to the Force. On the contrary, he had to renounce the dark side. That's the only way to defeat it.
    Joining the dark side was Anakin's choice. It wasn't really what he wanted to do, but that only proves his weakness.





    Anakin - he is strong, but weak
    /Flames
     
  3. voodoopuuduu

    voodoopuuduu Jedi Knight star 5

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    Was Anakin turning to the dark side ineviatable? was it fate?



    It was a much greater force than that. It was the SCRIPT. Otherwise, there wouldnt have been the OT. :D In the GFFA, if Anakin had made other choices, he could have avoided turning.
     
  4. snap-hiss

    snap-hiss Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    This is more a philosophical question than a Star Wars question, and does not have an easy answer.

    If you want an 'in universe' answer, no, it was not inevitable for Anakin to turn. The future is always in motion, as Yoda said, so his choices determined his fate at each step of the road.

    !snap
     
  5. LordVader66

    LordVader66 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Nice question. I have thought a lot about this and I do think it was inevitable. Anakin had tapped into the darkside numerous times before he offically became a Sith and what's to say he would just stop doing it? Anakin would have killed the chancellor on the spot if he could not have saved Padme, but what about after that? He still would have had a lot of fear and hate. It would get stronger and he would keep using the darkside. Would he have become as evil as he did in the OT? I don't think so but I think his usage of the darkside would still make him do some bad things.
     
  6. MatthewZ

    MatthewZ Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    It might be a question of fate vs. free will.
     
  7. andkiich

    andkiich Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Not inevitable. Anakin's choices in life pulled him to the darkside. He very well could have made different choices and not turned.

    As it is, the story is told from the point of view that his "bad" choices caused him to turn to the darkside and we have the 6 movies we have now.
     
  8. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yes and no. Yes because he kept his attachments and they would be used against him, either by Palpatine's design or his own violation. No, because it was not his destiny to turn. It was a result of bad choices that he made in his life.
     
  9. Sidious77

    Sidious77 Jedi Youngling

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    Well as others have said he just made the wrong choices and took the wrong path. Anakin is a flawed human. Doesn't matter that he was the chozen one, he was a human that wanted most things that men want in general today. Power and Love.
     
  10. YoungAngus

    YoungAngus Jedi Master star 5

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    No it really wasn't IMO. The only thing he was destined to do was destroy the Sith...that was it. Anakin filled in the blanks, he chose his own path, and his own way to get to what his ultimate goal was, bringing balance to the force.
     
  11. WEEBACCA

    WEEBACCA Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I don't think it was his fate to turn to the dark side. I think the whole belief of fate is something that belongs to the dark side (If I'm not wrong it's only the Sith that ever talks of the concept of fate in the movies).
    While the reality is that Anakin had every opportunity to make his decisions along the way. He made the wrong decisions (because he let his decisions be guided by his emotions - the way of the Sith - rather than by the way of the Jedi which would have prevented his downfall).
     
  12. BleepsSweepsCreeps

    BleepsSweepsCreeps Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Well it depends on how you percieve certain things. Anakin's tale is very similar to that of MacBeth's in that knowledge of the future was the catalyst in their downfall....

    .... however

    Would they have met their fates had they not seen or been given that information in the first place? Think about it. Anakin turns to the darkside because he feels he needs to obtain the power to save Padme, whom he knows is going to die. Now here's the tricky part... what if he didn't have the vision? Would he have turned to the dark side? Would he have choked her on Mustfar, hence perhaps causing her death? Probably not, which begs the question of whether or not he was destined to have turned in the first place.

    It's a paradox of sort.
     
  13. Fat_Bird

    Fat_Bird Jedi Youngling star 2

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    No. All he had to do was bring balance to the Force by getting rid of Sideous. He could have done that without turning to the Darkside.
     
  14. AT-AT_Commander

    AT-AT_Commander Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Inevitable, no. but he was trying to hold onto everything he held dear. He had much anger in him, so he thought he was right even though he was wrong.
     
  15. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    I think most everyone has the right idea here. Though GL might contradict himself here and there he did say on an interview that Anakin did not have to turn to the Darkside, he just made the wrong choice(s), and Luke made the right choice. Free will is alive and well in the GFFA.
     
  16. AnnLouise

    AnnLouise Jedi Youngling star 3

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    BINGO!=D=

    A question that can't be answered absolutely either way. I read somewhere that people only say "I had no choice" when they still do, but they just don't want to take the consequences of that choice.

    Anakin did not turn because of Fate or a prophecy or the Will of the Force. He chose the Dark Side for what seemed to him good reasons. Which leads to another quote - the tragedy of it all is, that every man has his reasons.
     
  17. MatthewZ

    MatthewZ Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Anakin's statement of "I don't have a choice" comes half way thru the middle movie of the trilogy. Just as Luke's decides he has to save his friends half way thru the middle movie of the trilogy.
     
  18. ComicDiva

    ComicDiva Jedi Padawan star 4

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    The darkness was inside him and eventually he had to deal with that.
    If somebody had been paying more attention to him maybe the consequences wouldn't have been as disastrous as they were.
     
  19. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Except Anakin did have a choice. He could've chose not to let his emotions control him. Just as Luke could've done likewise. Everyone has a choice. This is what Luke realizes when he comes back to Dagobah and speaks to Yoda.

    Yoda: "Unfortunate that you rushed to face him. That incomplete was your training. Not ready for the burden were you."

    Luke: "I'm sorry."

    He was not ready, but his impatience and emotional attachment to his friends made him do a stupid thing. He didn't consider the consequences of rushing off before he was ready. Just as Anakin didn't consider the consequences when he decided to go to Tatooine.
     
  20. MatthewZ

    MatthewZ Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    ^^

    I concur. I never they didn't have a choice. Only that's what THEY felt.
     
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