Was Boba Fett A Stormtrooper?

i was reading dark empire II an imperial officer told fett he knows he was a stormtrooper is this true? i always thought he was always a bonnty hunter.

 

I assume he took a field commission with the Stormtrooper Corps back during that Kamino incident.

Though I don't know why he would have killed his commanding officer.

 

He was a hired hand to lead a corps of storm troopers against Kamino. He killed his superior officer while he was I think they call it a Guardian on Concord Dawn.

 

his stint as a Journeyman Protector on Concorde Dawn was separate from his time as a bounty hunter, and likely not what the Dark Side Adepts were talking about. Its just one of those lines that doesnt really jive with anything established in canon. The fact that it was created over 10 years previous to Fett being a clone, really doesnt help. It could be well that they mixed him up with the millions of other clones Theres no established story I can think of that has him actually involved with the stormtroopers any more than on Kamino. He's killed dozens of troops and officers in his day I'm sure, just none of them were really commanding him, so it doesnt really count. Chalk it up as another one of those mysteries about his past he never denied.

But if it had something to do with Fett and the Kamino incident, I can see Fett as offing an officer on the mission if he felt like it.

 

It was strange to hear GL say on the AOTC commentary that the original idea was for Fett to have been one of the stormtroopers. ( Probably because I had forgotten the DE reference. )
I thought Fett's original backstory was simply that he had been a Mandalorian commando.

 

Fett was originally supposed to be "the last of the Imperial supercommandos" - hence the original white design on his armour. Reading between the lines, he seems to to have been originally conceived as the last clone of the Clone Wars - but as a warrior who fought there, not a kid.

The idea that he was some sort of stormtrooper later percolated out into the canon. The "supercommando" story was used in Marvel, but with Mandalorian troops fighting for Palpatine. I'm not sure if his actually being a stormtrooper was ever cited as more than a rumour about his past.

If it happened, it was likely between his exile from Concord Dawn, and his return to bounty hunting - around 12 BBY, in other words.

- The Imperial Ewok

 

oddly enough, now that I remember, in the TotBH short, "Jaster" did say he could join the Stormtroopers when he left Concord Dawn. Interesting, but still no evidence it ever happened. Funny part is he could have slipped into just about any part of the corps as long as he had a clones id #.

As for his back story, i always remember him being one of the last of the "evil" mandalorian troops that we assumed was attacking the Republic. Jeez, the Clone Wars seemed so much cooler back then when there was no clue to it, just random ideas.

 

Yeah, I always thought Han was the one who was rumored to have been a stormtrooper.

 

I remember Fett apparently having been a stormie, but I'm not sure if it was canon or not. I always took it for granted he served a brief stint before taking bounty hunting full-time, just like his brief time as a Journeyman Protector. If no canon exists besides it just being a rumor, it'd be a neat retcon to have him accept a commision for the battle at Kamino. The bit about him killing a superior refers to his time as a Protector, though, unless he had a repeat incident.

I think his canon background was always as the last of the Supercommandoes, though, or just as someone who wore the armor. Although, now that I think about it, I had this old Kenner Boba Fett figure with a synopsis type thing on the back when I was a kid, and I think that might be where I got the impression he was a stormtrooper. That was a long time ago, though.

 

Han graduated top of his class from The Academy and served in the navy until he saved Chewie and got sacked..

 

Actually, later on in the same story, he says that he did in fact join the stormtroopers, and subsequently left.

 

Considering that there have been multiple people who pretended to be Boba, it's possible it's an imposter, or even a rumour, or planted misinfo.

 

Or possibly a misunderstanding of his genetic relationship to the stormtroopers.

 

Han Solo trained at the Academy on Carida.

Carida is, of course, the place where most stormtroopers are trained, but Han was a Navy cadet, on a course which has been depicted (in The Making of Baron Fel and in "Carida: Heavy Duty") as focusing on TIE pilot skills, but with some elements of basic stormtrooper training thrown in as well.

This is different from the normal Imperial Academy system, in which pilot training is a separate course for junior officers after they've LEFT the Academy.

Han graduated top of his class, with Soontir Fel second, then presumably spent the standard one-year rotation flying a TIE, and went on to become a deck officer on a Star Destroyer.

So Han was never a stormtrooper, but because he was trained on Carida, he does have some basic stormtrooper training that most Navy officers lack.

That's not to say he didn't have the standard theoretical training as well, though - The Hutt Gambit mentions him producing a presentation entitled "Economics of Hyperspace Troop Movement".

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Interesting that Fett WAS explicitly established as becoming a stormtrooper in "Last Man Standing". Is it described in any detail, at all?

- The Imperial Ewok

 

None. He just reflects on it internally once. It's a single line, something akin to "Not long after leaving the stormtroopers..." Which, considering all the other unfortunate retcons "The Last One Standing" has had to put up with, I suppose could be interpreted as the time Fett led stormtroopers on Kamino in BF2.

 

Well, the Acadamy well could have trained him in ground combat, and they probably stuck him in Stormie armor to do it. Rather like in BSG's first season when the Chief Engineer and some of his crew are trapped with Marines on Kobol, when the lead Marine starts going over basic assault theory, the Chief says "LT, Basic ground assault was a long time ago at hte acadamy", or something similar.

The point being, wanting an officer to be cross-trained and to be able to carry out assaults isn't surprising in the Imperial Navy, and especially not in a prestigious acadamy like Cardia. It's not beyond belief that while not being Stormtrooper corps, Han did brief assault training with them as part of an integrated program.

As for Fett, I think the lines are blurred enough that it's not a massive problem, and becomes a question of whether it was really an imposter, misinfo, of if the slapped a commission on him when he was at the Battle for Kamino (very possible).

 

I am not as up to speed on Boba Fett's history, but, is it possible that Boba Fett really didn't need stormtrooper training, but did so out of a belief that if he is to possibly take an assignment against them, that he would be best to learn all about their tactics? Not that Boba Fett is a spy among the ranks, but as a Bounty Hunter, would be interested in any bit of information that might help him pull off a job later...So, he was a Stormtrooper, but it was his choice to do so, because he had something else to gain out of it...So, despite all of the indoctrination, instead of becoming Stormtrooper TK-652, he is still Boba Fett, playing a role...Like how Matt Damon, Adam Goldberg, Giovanni Ribisi etc. underwent army training to prepare for their roles in Saving Private Ryan...Boba Fett entered the Stormtrooper core to enrich his own knowledge, to help with his Bounty Hunter career. IE, the stormtrooper thing was merely a means to an end.

 

Well, we know it wasn't an impostor, because it's the real Fett thinking to himself about how he used to be a stormtrooper, but yeah, I don't think there's really any sort of problem. Not with this, at least.

 

Another option is after leaving Sintas he signed up as storm trooper briefly. They could tie into his daddy issues him looking for some sense of belonging by joining the successors to the army his father's clones made up.

 

The only problem with that is now that he is established as the son of Jango Fett, the prime clone of what would become the stormtrooper corps, he probably already has all said training already from his father, or knows about it. There is likely little he could gain from joining such an organization just to enrich himself. Its a valid theory, but with AOTC I just don't see it as plausible anymore.

The only real blank spots are his time away from bounty hunting, when he married Sintas Vel, worked as a Journeyman...and then it seems he basically went right back to his roots. The mystery has somewhat been destroyed now, the time in what seems to be his mid 20's is about all we dont really know about him now. After that its just story after story of this engine of destruction that can't be stopped (dont get me wrong, I love those stories).

Kasm and Fass don't seem to be referring to Fett's killing of a superior as his time in the Journeyman Protectors. They refer to it right after saying he was a stormtrooper, meaning he killed a stormtrooper officer. Now, the only way I can see these two as being linked is if there is the possibility that the Journeymen of Concord Dawn were somehow transferred to some sort of Imperial Authority. Mandalorian space was under tight Imperial control since the rise of the Empire (pretty sure). Its possible perhaps that the authority of the Journeymen was transferred to a local garrison. And perhaps Fett killed a liaison in charge (think Kirtan Loor) that was the go between among the Policing of Concord Dawn and the Empire. Therefore they refer to him as a stormtrooper as he worked out of the garrison?

just a thought.

 

Or they were just trying to bully him. As far as I know, there's no source for Fett killing his superior in the Stormtrooper Corps besides the Dark Side Elite. It could have been an interesting story, but in light of the way Fett's backstory has gone in recent years, I'd say just write it off as a baseless threat. Of course, if it should turn out that Boba Fett's stint as stormtrooper is different from the time he led the assault on Kamino, the line could be worked into that story, but until then, I wouldn't worry about trying to make it fit.

And yes, Fett's time as a Journeyman Protector is most definitely not the same as his time as a stormtrooper, the latter not occurring until after he had been fired from the former.

 

That would depend on what "unaltered" means. Was Boba's unaltered status only referring to the age acceleration, or did it also include not giving him the pre-programmed training that the other clones received? Its possible that Boba Fett was really treated as a son to Jango, and was born/hatched with a completely blank slate, and his education was left up to Jango and more conventional methods, like a normal son would. If Jango was truly raising Boba as a son, and not as a clone, then Boba would not have undergone the clone training, instead would have been instructed by Jango personally...who died when Boba was still a child, so there would certainly have been large gaps in his training...training that he could then partially make up for by temporarily joining the stormtroopers later...Knowledge is not passed down from father to son genetically, it has to be taught. If Jango was raising Boba as a son, he would have had to teach Boba in traditional ways.

 

Easy question: it refers only to age acceleration, because none of the clones - at least none of the clones this early in the creation of the army - received "pre-programmed" training.

 

Thats awesome. I would love this to officially be the retcon.