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Was Dooku always a Count?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by TheNewEmpire, Jun 8, 2011.

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  1. TheNewEmpire

    TheNewEmpire Jedi Master star 3

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    Just finished reading #1 of JEDI - Dark Side.

    There is an offhand reference mande to Count Dooku...

    This suggests that Dooku held this title as a Jedi Master. Why is this?
    I know he has a birthright to the title, but why would a Jedi keep/be allowed to keep, such an attachment and polititcal bias?

    Does Dooku have a forename?
     
  2. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Chosen One star 7

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    Not one that we know of. As you say, he has birthright to the title, but it seems strange to see him called Count at that point in the timeline. Wasn't he called Master Dooku at the time of the Battle of Galidraan?
     
  3. The Loyal Imperial

    The Loyal Imperial Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Could've been an error, too. They have those, from time to time.
     
  4. TheNewEmpire

    TheNewEmpire Jedi Master star 3

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    Why doesn't anyone take the opportunity to give him a forename?

    Would that decision have to be run by Lucas first do you think, or is it not important enough - can any star wars writer take it upon him/herself to give character's forenames?

    I wish someone would name Palpatine...
     
  5. CT-867-5309

    CT-867-5309 Chosen One star 7

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    I like that they have just a single name, it's more iconic.

    A single name is perfectly plausible in universe, especially for such well known characters and I wouldn't be surprised if that was Lucas' intention.
     
  6. The Loyal Imperial

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    Someone tried to name Palpatine once, but Lucas said no.
     
  7. Daft-Vader

    Daft-Vader Chosen One star 8

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    Everyone knows Palpatines first name was....


    But yeah, a bit odd to call him Count Dooku when he was still a Jedi
     
  8. killfire

    killfire Jedi Master star 4

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    We can always retcon it so that Count is his first name as well.

    Of course his full name would then be Master Count Count Dooku. :p

     
  9. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    According to the Wook he once visited Serenno as a child. To my knowledge, this wasn't a privilege afforded all Jedi. Is there a chance there was some reason he was allowed to retain his title? Serenno is kind of a crappy, fairweather friend of the Republic, after all...
     
  10. The Loyal Imperial

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    Could have been a condition of agreeing to let him join the Jedi. His family certainly had the resources to make an issue out of it, if they chose to do so, unlike most.
     
  11. FalorWindrider

    FalorWindrider Jedi Knight star 4

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    I find it harder to believe he went through his entire life without being mocked for the name "Dooku."
     
  12. killfire

    killfire Jedi Master star 4

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    Maybe that pushed him to the dark side.
     
  13. FTeik

    FTeik Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    If my knowledge of nobility is correct, his name would be Dooku, Count of Serenno, with Dooku being his first name and as long as he wasn't Count (when his mother or father were still alive) he would have been just Dooku of Serenno.

    Of course, thanks to the EU this no longer works, since there are several different families on Serenno, who are headed by a Count of Countess (although IIRC, that was during the time of Darth Bane).
     
  14. BobaMatt

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    They usually had actual family names, too, though. But you're right, on Serenno it's possible that he'd just referred to by other royalty as "Serenno," or perhaps by the region of Serenno he was Count of, in the same way that in Shakespeare plays people are referred to as "Glamis" and "Gloucester" and "Burgundy," etcetera.
     
  15. CloneUncleOwen

    CloneUncleOwen Jedi Master star 4

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    Danny Dooku and Sheldon Palpatine.

    [face_thinking]

    I'll stick with Count and Emperor.
     
  16. DarthIktomi

    DarthIktomi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    As much as I like Christopher Lee, I can't help but think Count Dooku's title is misspelled.
     
  17. KissMeImARebel

    KissMeImARebel Force Ghost star 5

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    IIRC Dooku didn't have the title during his time in the Jedi Order, but he got it back after he left.
     
  18. AdmiralWesJanson

    AdmiralWesJanson Force Ghost star 5

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    He went from Master Dooku to Count Dooku after that infamous training session for the younglings...

    "One! One lightsaber! Ah hah ha!"
     
  19. LordDarthPaxis

    LordDarthPaxis Jedi Knight star 1

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    [face_laugh] Oh my God! That is brilliant!

    Personally I imagine that Dooku may have been afforded a few special priveleges, given Serenno's unique history. After all the planet has always been a hotbed of sedition against the Republic and allowing their prodigal son to be so closely tied in with the noble Jedi Order may have helped to strengthen the Republic-Serenno bond. Also, assuming Dooku is an only child, he may have been afforded the title in order to keep his noble lineage alive. I imagine that part of inheritance went towards funding Jedi projects before he left the Order as a kind of compromise.
     
  20. QuentinGeorge

    QuentinGeorge Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    They usually had actual family names, too, though. But you're right, on Serenno it's possible that he'd just referred to by other royalty as "Serenno," or perhaps by the region of Serenno he was Count of, in the same way that in Shakespeare plays people are referred to as "Glamis" and "Gloucester" and "Burgundy," etcetera.

    I'd imagine, since Serenno has multiple Counts, that he is in fact "XXXX", Count Dooku (a perfect valid way of rendering the title).

    Even Dooku, Count Dooku is stylistically correct: see Charles Spencer, Earl Spencer, for instance.
     
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