Was it impossible to clone a healthy body for Anakin Skywalker?

It's common knowledge that due to events in REVENGE OF THE SITH, Anakin Skywalker sustains severe injuries that forces him to live in the life-support body armor of Darth Vader for the rest of his life.

Query: it's known that cloning technology was available in the STAR WARS universe. Why was a healthy body not cloned for Anakin...or at least enough healthy tissue that his original body could be somewhat reconstructed?

It might be that even in STAR WARS, medical technology, while able to produce genetic duplicates, was unable to transfer the mind of the original into the clone. None of the clone troopers, after all, behaved like Jango Fett.

Still, it seems like regenerating tissue isn't out of the question; it makes you wonder if there were any other medical options available for Anakin besides the Vader armor.

 

There may be a number of reasons Anakin didn't get a clone body.

1) He may not be strong in the Force due to Force strength cannot be cloned.

2) The Clone Wars tech may not have been as advanced as we think it is.

or

3) (I like this one) Palpatine wanted Anakin in the armor to control him and having a clone body would lessen the control.

 

Or mabye George Lucas needed something sinister. Not some namby pamby little boy.

Oh wait...This is the EUC...*backs out slowly*

 

i have my own theory on this...

Cloning was possible with their technology; they did it, of course. But nobody thought of a way of transferring a person's mind into the body. So it would have been a moot point.
But that brings up the subject of Dark Empire. Palpy cloned himself, and transferred his spirit into the body. His Force strength was the same as it was in the original body, as evidenced in the comics.
Palpy could even transfer other people's spirits into clone bodies; he did so to Bevel Lemelisk several times, killing him as punishment for failure, then transferring him into a healthy clone body

Now, Palps could have done that with Darth Vader... but why? He could control Vader well enough if he had physical limitations, such as a breathing apparatus, etc. as JediStarMoonstruck pointed out.
Also, the dark cape and mask inspired fear in enemy and servant alike. If he was but a man with roves, he would not be as feared. The mask and armor made him appear to be something other than human... something cold. Evil.

 

I think there was a thread like this in Lit. not too long ago...

anyays, I think that either

A) Palpatine had yet to figure out the mind transfer thing.

or

B) had known about it, but hid the knowledge from Anakin/Vader because the cyborg body would make him easier to control.

 

what about this thinking???


What if they did not want the Universe to know that Anakin Skywalker was Darth Vader.

I mean...if it was known...wouldn't the Rebels and Luke think that one Skywalker might be related to another Skywalker, who became Darth Vader?

I mean...if I were Luke...and knew that Darth Vader was Anakin Skywalker...I might just start trying to put the last names together...especially with my father dead.

It just might be that they it would be bad publicity to let people know that Anakin Skywalker became Darth Vader.

 

In Jedi Trial Anakin remarks that if he had known his mechanical arm would have done so well, that he would have replace the other one too. Maybe he liked the Cyborg body

 

Sorry if i have to bring this back again to page 1...
Ive been trying to find on this message boards a topic pertaining cloning a Jedi, and this is where I found it. JediMoonStruck states that the Force cannot be cloned. How about Joruus C'baoth and the cloned Luke? How does they obtain Force Powers?

Or on second thought... aren't they raised by the Emperor who knows transferring of thoughts and powers(according to the unofficial encyclopedia)?

 

Well Luuke and Joruus were clones and mind transferes.

Lemik had no force powers and when Castilla transfered herself she lost her powers. Maybe the emperor had only perfected the transfere of himself as to keep ones force powers.

 

There's also the fact that a stable clone takes a while to grow. That doesn't explain why they couldn't just clone healthy tissue for Anakin, but it could be a reason why they didn't just make a clone of him -- it would have taken too long to make one that was stable.

 

No, it wasn't.

Because we actually have proof that Anakin was cloned.

A clone of Anakin Skywalker was made when Darth Vader visited the abandoned Jedi Temple on Dantooine while trying to track down Luke Skywalker. It was there, that the still-functional cloning technology located within the Jedi enclave was able to harvest Anakin's DNA and create a full clone of Darth Vader.

The Dark Lord was none too happy.

 

Thrawn was kicking those suckers out in two weeks. It's not that they take long to grow, it's just that their minds can't handle it.

So you think a body would be no sweat.

 

Yeah, but Joruus C'Baoth (for example) wasn't mentally stable, partly because he was grown too quickly. So if you want a body that can support a stable mind it might take longer. And Thrawn had ysalamiri all over the place. I don't know really, just a though.

 

That assumes that Anakin Skywalker had a stable mind to begin with that actually could get screwed up.

Which is stretching things a whole lot. The dude was a quick-tempered reprobate as a child and a mass-murdering sociopath as a teen-ager.

A mind-altered expedited clone probably had a better chance of turning out mentally stable as a result of the quick-growth side-effects.

 

Then does this mean that the Clone Troopers are mentally unstable because they are grown too fast?

 

No, they had 10 years, so it was a bit faster, but not by a factor bigger than 4 (what "age" are theyin AotC? I don't know.). It's a diffent technique the Kaminosians used from hat seen in the EU I would say.

 

That assumes that Anakin Skywalker had a stable mind to begin with that actually could get screwed up.

Which is stretching things a whole lot. The dude was a quick-tempered reprobate as a child and a mass-murdering sociopath as a teen-ager.

A mind-altered expedited clone probably had a better chance of turning out mentally stable as a result of the quick-growth side-effects.

That's a good point Genghis, I didn't think of that.

 

the force is what causes the fast grown clones to go crazy, it's not natural for a human to be grown to maturity in two weeks, (and that was just to grow them, after they finished growing they aged like normal humans) this is why thrawn used the ysalamiri, the kamino cloners actually doubled the aging speed of the clones, instead of what thrawn did, so that was more natural, it's not like they lived their first half of their life in two weeks and then the rest at normal speeds,

back to vader, it could be theorized that the lava had radioactive proporties, which damaged his DNA too much for cloning,

 

A little something from the EU - Zahn mentioned early clones (Joruus C'Baoth's clone) were mentally unstable, due to some early on errors in the cloning process, back in the days of the Old Republic. Maybe Palpy knew about this and didnt want Vader to grow 'unstable'

 

As has already been stated, there's different cloning tech out there. The Zahn-y spaarti-originated clones have a lot of disadvantages that the Kaminoan clones didn't have.

C'baoth and the Thrawn lot were essentially substandard to what the Clone Troopers were. I suspect that the Emperor needed the perfect army to whack all the Jedi, and once that was accomplished and he was in total control, he wished to retain the ability to mass produce an army, but didn't want to them too perfect.

Hence the reason why he archived the spaarti cloning cylindars instead of locking away a bunch of Kaminoans somewhere.

 

I belive that I read somewhere that force sensitivity could not be cloned, so, clone Ani wouldn't ahve been able to use the force.

i also read that 3.5 of every 100 clones developed a quirk. I submit ot you, Mandalore the Resurrector (AKA clone ALPHA-02, Spar) For eight years, he acted just as his fellow clones, until one day mention of Jago's exploits triggered in him a memory that belonged to Jango. Suddenly, all of Jango's memories came flooding into Spar, and, knowing his meory would be erased, he fled to the outer rim, and upon hearing of Jango's death, knew that he was to rebuild Jango's supercommando's. Eventually, he suffered clone madness from the inability to reconcile his dual memories.

 

3) (I like this one) Palpatine wanted Anakin in the armor to control him and having a clone body would lessen the control.


quite possible.


but maybe the id of Vader needed to be hidden.

 

3) (I like this one) Palpatine wanted Anakin in the armor to control him and having a clone body would lessen the control

I think this one is the most likely. Also Palpatine couldn't afford to wait a decade for his Vader clone mature. He neede Anakin NOW!

I belive that I read somewhere that force sensitivity could not be cloned,

How do you explain Joruus C'baoth. He was cloned from a Jedi Knight and retained his host's Force powers.

 

Luuke and the cloned Emperor were also clones with force powers.

 

C-3PX posted on 3/27/05 9:38pm

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Well Luuke and Joruus were clones and mind transferes.

Lemik had no force powers and when Castilla transfered herself she lost her powers. Maybe the emperor had only perfected the transfere of himself as to keep ones force powers.
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Lemlisk wasn't Force sensitive to begin with. As for Callista, she only lost the ability to touch the Lightside. Why? Because Transfer Essence is a uber Darkside power. She fell to the Darkside without realizing she did.