Saga Was Knights Of The Old Republic 2 story that good ?

I remember playing this game few years ago and enjoying it in my only playthrough. I even considered it's story to be great at that time.

But nowadays, the more I think about it's story, the more flaws I can find within that game's story.

-That game basically calls Jedis "failures" and portray them as evil characters(whom just want to kill the main hero near the end for being different compared to them. Unlike the way Jedi Council treated Anakin in episode 1)
We also have ordinary people seeing no differences between Jedis and The Siths in this game as Atton yells the main character. Even though that we know from A new Hope and TPM that "Jedis defeated the Sith empire thousands of years ago and became guardians of the peace and justice for the republic" which means that Jedis made the life better for the habitants of the worlds that were in control of Republic.
I remember the jedi order never joining Raven in defending the republic against the mandalorians. Even though that they were just invading republic planets and killing people for "glory of battle".

-We have a Sith that doesn't even die and a Sith that can force drain a planet.

-Then we have the exile that the story uses to kinda prove that life can exist without the force which doesn't feel right based on what Yoda tells about the force in TESB.(And Qui Gon said that life can't exist without it)

Was Kotor 2 story really that good ?
I feel it kinda damaged Star Wars since it gave birth to all those "Gray side of the force is better than light and dark sides." Statements and it even managed to find it's way into the canon. Even Luke in TLJ loved to call Jedis failures.

 

Yes. KOTOR 2 slaps.

 

I haven’t played either KOTOR game, though I’ve been a fan of their stories for a long time. KOTOR 2 has a great story, with some very memorable characters.

But is it Star Wars? Well, literally yes. But I agree that philosophically it conflicts with much of what Lucas himself wanted to communicate with his movies. His ideas about Jedi, the Force, and the moral message of Star Wars in general are simply not present in KOTOR 2.

And it’s not entirely surprising, considering the lead writer was not a big fan of Star Wars in general until he was hired. The cool thing about Legends was that it allowed artists to make all kinds of stories in that universe. But that did mean a lot of them could be very much their own thing, which KOTOR 2 certainly is.

 

KOTOR II didn’t give birth to that. There were novels and comics about that before KOTOR II.

 

No. And the story is also not the only problem with that game.

 

Regardless of whatever issues people have with the story, Kotor II is basically the quintessential Obsidian game. High concept, buggy as sin, and a cult classic. For what it's worth, I can basically only play the game with the Restored Content mod and all of the subsequent fixes that come with it.

 

It’s about to be re-released for mobile, no? Anyone know whether that might include all the restoration and fixes?

I might play it. But it’s odd, it really feels less like Star Wars than it used to, as do other video games like Fallen Order. They are fun, certainly, and creative. But it does feel a bit odd to be a Jedi and to cut down person after person. I guess in that sense Kotor 2 is at least self-aware of what it’s making its Jedi do.

 

No it doesn't have the restoration.

But Hassat Hunter(Whom is a TSLRCM developer) has claimed that it's possible to play the mobile version with that mod.

As for Cal killing stormtroopers, In Star Wars movies the heroes kill stormtroopers and have no remorse for that at all.

 

That’s true. To be fair, I think it’s the sneaking around beforehand that makes it seem more malicious. At least in the movies characters are clearly defending themselves.

 

Yes i love the Jedi and Sith both being Villains

 

I wish KOTOR II was set during the Republic Dark Age. Kreia talks about Revan as if he’s a messiah rather than as if he’s her contemporary and the First Jedi Purge, the Sith ruling the galaxy, and Kreia’s cynicism would fit the Republic Dark Age.

 

I personally prefer Alpha Protocol over Kotor 2.
AP had better story imo.

 

And the Prequel Trilogy is literally 6 hours of video evidence of that so

In short yes, it's the greatest Star Wars story ever told because it looks objectively at every aspect and faction of/within the universe. No it does NOT mean Jedi are evil/100% failures, Kotor 2 never says that. It simply criticizes the 'sacred cows' of the franchise openly which the audience often refuses to do preffering banal cartoon morality of goodie-guys and evil-bads.
Real-life analogies to religion and religious institutions (and how many people often refuse the slightest critique of those) draw themselves obviously.

 

I would have to play the game again, last time I played it was 2006 or so. I remember loving the KOTOR games and characters, but was not that thrilled over them being so high tech and looking too much like Prequel/Clone Wars/Imperial era or better. I liked more the aesthetics of the Dark Horse comics of the same name.

 

Good story, bad ending largely because it's incomplete due to rushing it's release. TRCM helps alot, but I wouldn't go as far as saying it fixes it. Still KOTOR 1 and 2 are some of my favourite games of all time.

 

On which modern platforms can the two classic games still be played?

 

They both still work on PC and KOTOR 2 got an official update fairly recently for better resolutions and full controller support. Sadly the first one didn't get the same treatment. They also work on xbox one, backward compatible and still for sale as digital download.

 

Thanks for the information

 

You will never see something like this in live action

 

It was good, but...

The game was rushed to completion so many of the story paths were curtailed.

Did Project Gizka ever release the lost content restoration?

 

Except it doesn’t say that. Kreia tried being a grey Jedi but her use of the dark side corrupts her until she joins the Sith.

Also, I don’t think Meetra temporarily being cut off from the force contradicts anything from the movies.