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was Nomi Sunrider a Revanchist

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Senator_Cilghal, Oct 12, 2008.

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  1. Senator_Cilghal

    Senator_Cilghal Jedi Master star 5

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    http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=starwars/article/Onderon

    Am I reading too much into this?
     
  2. Tam_Elgrin

    Tam_Elgrin Jedi Master star 4

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    The miniatures scenarios often use "named" pieces as stand ins - check out the Dark Forces saga, for example, or the Valance missions. Nomi - and her stats - are simply representing "an effective commander who has the ability to aid others in her squad.". By the same token, it's probably not Candy there, either, but just a "generic" Mandalorian leader who uses his miniatures game stats.
     
  3. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    This has been brought up before, yeah. It's a stand-in, otherwise it would be rather obvious that Boba Fett would not be allowed in this battle because it takes place 4,000 years before his birth. What's more, Nomi pretty much seems to have been one of the hardliners of orthodoxy and the primacy of the Council, so it's unlikely she'd join with Revan.
     
  4. Leto II

    Leto II Jedi Padawan star 6

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    What Matt just said. (My being "late to the party" and all -- couldn't have put it any better myself).

    No way in hell she'd have sided with Revan, at least at that point in the war. Vima, on the other hand...perhaps a totally different story. Especially since she was one of the Jedi Exile's mentors. And we all know what she pulled over on the Council.

    (Also, Mr. Module-Author: it's "Dxun," not "Duxon." [face_peace])
     
  5. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    That misspelling comes from the crazy mispronunciation in the game. Am I the only one who used to read it "Dzun"?
     
  6. Leto II

    Leto II Jedi Padawan star 6

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    Ditto. It fast approaches "Exar KOON"-territory.
     
  7. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Chosen One star 7

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    I doubt that she was.
     
  8. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Chosen One star 6

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    Well, IIRC Abel has mentioned he wants the Exile to be a Sunrider, and the Exile was a Revanchist, so... putting two and two together. Perhaps the hints are remnants of some of his work which may have flowed over into a published piece?
     
  9. Leto II

    Leto II Jedi Padawan star 6

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    Or...which may yet turn up in a future one (i.e., a certain Alex Irvine novel-in-the-works).
     
  10. QuentinGeorge

    QuentinGeorge Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    post TOTJ Nomi was "head of the Jedi Order". If the Head of the order went off on the crusade, it would be rather difficult for the order as a whole to be described as opposing the Revanchists.

    Vima, on the other hand, makes sense. Sort of defying her mother, sort of thing, and she had no personal experience of the horrors of war.
     
  11. fanboyskywalker

    fanboyskywalker Jedi Padawan star 4

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    What exactly is a Revanchist? What does it mean to be one?

    I know there is Darth Revan who is apparently Revanchist from KOTOR -- who is some Rogue Jedi like Qui-gon, kind of.
     
  12. ARC-77

    ARC-77 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    The Revanchists are the faction of Rogue knights following Revan and Malak into the Mandalorian Wars against the wishes of the Council, fanboy. Revanchist is the name given to Revan at about this time, and it's presumably where he got the name Darth Revan.
     
  13. Senator_Cilghal

    Senator_Cilghal Jedi Master star 5

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    revanchist is a real word

    dictionary.com defines "revanche":
    :the policy of a state intent on regaining areas of its original territory that have been lost to other states as a result of war, a treaty signed under duress, etc."

    a revanchist is someone who supports such a policy

    thus, the "revanchists" are the Jedi who want to actively fight to regain lost territory from the Mandos, as opposed to those Jedi who do not want to get involved

    the head of this faction was called the "Revanchist Leader," eventually shortened to "the Revanchist", and finally just "Revan", ie, Darth Revan. Thus, Revan is not his true proper name any more than the name you give the poor amnesiac dope when you start playing the game (in my case, "Poki D'poni"). Thus, "Darth Revan[chist]" is derived on a real word with aggressive or dark meaning, similar to Darth [In]Sidious, Darth Maul, Darth Stryfe, etc.

    Quentin: Vima defying her mother again? didn't she already go through that phase and get over it;)
     
  14. fanboyskywalker

    fanboyskywalker Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Sweet. That's a cool division.
     
  15. Senator_Cilghal

    Senator_Cilghal Jedi Master star 5

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    its not so much they are called Revanchists because they follow Revan, rather he is called Revan because he leads Revanchists
     
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