Was Revan Sorry For The Evil He Did?.

i think he was but was too ashamed to do it. in timetales it said revan almost cried telling the crew who he truly was that shows me he was sorry. if he returns he'll probally break up a news broadcast and personally apologize for everything. i had a dream once where revan completely breaks down enroute to korriban and mission and juhani comforted him.

 

Given the fact that he atoned for his actions by defeating Malak and probably lived his last days searching for the Sith threat beyond the Outer Rim, I'd say he was pretty sorry for what he did. Also, being mindwiped probably made him forget a lot of his motivations for his actions as a Sith, even if the events themselves flooded back. He might never remember the mindset he was in when he became a Sith Lord, so looking back with his reformed Jedi persona, he'd probably be disgusted with himself.

 

Right, even if he was just faking being a Sith to stall the Emperor's plans and prepare the galaxy for a greater war.

Kinda like Jacen - really all the cool Jedi know when it's time to go dark for the greater good.

 

I think it's been confirmed by Bioware that Darth Revan genuinely fell to the Dark Side of the Force and fought to enslave the galaxy, not protect. Which, honestly, is how it should be.

 

that's true charles kreia lied when she said revan never really fell to the dark side i knew that years ago.

 

I actually prefer the "fallen hero" explanation than the "turned into a complete monster." I realize that many people prefer having a clear face and a clear heel, but very few people are this polarized in real life. Obsidian's attempt to make a grey and grey outlook was refreshing.

 

I have to agree with that. Bioware turning it into one Sith simply wanting to carve out a niche against another has completely ruined the morally complex fallen hero that tried to do what he believed was the right thing and failed.

 

What? Obsidian presented Revan as a guy with good intentions who made the concious, calculated decision to turn to the dark side "out of necessity" to "save" the galaxy, first from the Mandalorians and then from some hidden threat.

Everything is, more-or-less, exactly as it was before. The only difference is that Revan actually met the leader of the Sith Empire he wished to destroy, likely feigning subserviance to use his own secrets against him. I'm sure Darth Revan believed to the day he "died" that what he was doing would prevent "a greater evil"... but he was, absolutely, a Dark Lord of the Sith in truth as well as name. And that has always been the case. At no point did KotOR II forward the idea that Revan was a "good Sith", or "not really dark": simply that he was preferable and "less evil" than the mysterious alternative.

If BioWare reveal that Revan was genuinely in the thrall of the Sith Emperor -- at any point, for any length of time -- then sure, that's a bit of a pickle... but as things currently stand, I'm not sure what either of you are talking about.

We're talking about a guy who was willing to rend wounds in the Force itself for the sole purpose of converting Jedi to the dark side before the Mandalorian Wars had even finished! That comes directly from KotOR 2. And BioWare are the ones who turned him into a monster?

"Perhaps Revan became the Dark Lord out of necessity, to prevent a greater evil" should be looked at in the same way as "The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am." It's not there to suggest that Revan's a nice guy, really. The intention is to make you think "holy crap, the Darth Revan who was willing to kill thousands of "disloyal" followers, blow up a world, torture Jedi and wound the Force to break people to his will was the LESSER evil!?"

I'm sure Darth Revan "regretted the necessity" of actions like he undertook at Malachor and elsewhere... but that doesn't stop him from being a bad guy. Nor does his desire to enforce his own Sith dictatorship (again, for the greater "good") make him any less morally complex than he was previously.

 

I agree with everything you said here. Revan was not a nice guy and what he did was wrong. I'm just worried that turning Revan in to nothing more than a Complete Monster is where Bioware is headed.

 

You missed Uli's point entirely. Revan has always been a complete monster. Not once did he become less than that. His evil and monstrosity only grew larger with KOTORII and Malachor V. I don't think the guy was conflicted about turn Jedi to the dark side of the Force, even if he was doing it to fight off the Sith Emperor... the man was making himself a Sith Emperor to do it. Willfully.

 

What Uli said.

 

except that the timeline confirmed that revan cared for power, and kept things intact purely to keep himself safe from his former master's wrath.