Was the Hapan Consortium ever under Imperial rule?

No.

 

Teh Mastadge is correct.

 

I think they were indirectly.

 

Nope. Totally independent. They ruthlessly turned back any attempts (smuggler, Imperial, or other) to enter their space. Grand Admiral Osvald Teshik was severly injured during a campaign against the Hapens. When they arrived on Coruscant in TCOPL, they presented the NR with several Star Destroyers captured in border skirmishes against the Empire. In the time of the NJO, theyve opened up some, but they were never ruled by the Empire.

Heres my question; the YJK books hint the Hapes Cluster is located in the Deep Core, yet on all maps, its near the Mid Rim. So ?

 

I was just wondering, because I'm writing up some background for a fanfic. I didn't think the Empire had dominion over Hapes, but then again the idea of Palpatine leaving an independent star kingdom with wealth and resources galore untouched was a little incongruous. I mean, the Corporate Sector Authority wa independent, but they bribed Palpatine to let them run the place. Hutt Space was also quasi-independent, although it did have a governor and efforts were made once to bring the Hutts to heel (The Hutt Gambit). I was also wondering how they captured so many ISDs if the Imperial Fleet never had a presence in the cluster - either the Empire went after them and failed or the Hapans came out to play after Endor.

I wonder if Ta'a Chume made some kind of a devil's bargain with Palpatine during his reign? Bribes and other fvors in return for Vader not steamrolling through with the fleet?

EDIT: I don't remember where KJA indicated it was in the Deep Core, but Hapes is surrounded by the Transitory Mists and it is a star cluster. Maybe the astrographical nature is similar to the Deep Core?

 

Perhaps the Hapans were briefly subdued by the Imps. Going by a conversation between Ta'a Chume and Isolder somewhere in COPL, she says something to the effect of:

". . . and when we could no longer hold back the tide of the Empire, we needed someone with a strong grip to rule."

Well, something like that.

 

I also remember Ta'a Chume saying something like ''If Hapes had a stronger military, we would never have fallen to the Empire.''

 

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IIRC the Hapan Consortium was never under the empire...if they were we would have seen them having imperial designs or technology...

 

Peregrine is right. I recall that part, too. If that isn't conclusive proof, then the cows will have to come home for supper.

 

I don't think the Empire controlled the Hapes Consortium.

 

Alion...
"I mean, the Corporate Sector Authority wa independent, but they bribed Palpatine to let them run the place."

The Corporate Sector wasn't independent. It operated under Imperial charter and entirely under the whims of the Empire and Palpatine.

 

Edit: Nevermind

 

From the Encyclopedia:

Hapes Cluster
a system of 63 star systems, it was originally settled by a group of pirates called the Lorell Raiders, and was overrun by the Empire until Ta'a Chume ousted them. She ruled with an iron fist until her heir, Prince Isolder, chose Teneniel Djo to be his wife and the next Chume. Teneniel Djo brought the Hapans into the New Republic. There were at least 119 known worlds within the Cluster's boundaries, of which 12 were unsettled at the time of the New Republic's negotiations with Ta'a Chume. Following Prince Isolder's marriage to Teneniel Djo, twelve of these worlds aligned themselves directly with the New Republic. The Cluster has four distinct regions: the Interior Region, which is considered the heart of the Cluster and contains Hapes; the Rifle Worlds, named for the fact that these industrial worlds once tried to secede from the Hapes Consortium; the Rim Worlds, which bordered on the rest of the known galaxy; and the Transitory Mists Region, which is filled with nebulous gases and is home to many pirate groups. (CPL, CTD)

 

Perhaps they were temporarily, but they drove them back.

 

Before or after Palpatine died at Endor?

And the CorporateSector was Palpatines brainchild as reward for the companies, that were loyal to him as well as a source of money and ressources he and his empire hadn´t to govern themself.

 

I always thought they were officially under control of the Empire, and had relations, but it was very independent, and prolly just sort of paid them lip service to avoid a total war.

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i have no data to support my thoughts here...

but i really doubt that palpy would let such a rich cluster of 63 systems slip through his hands....

remember how rich they are described as being in COPL

 

They were probably a protectorate or sphere of influence. Allowed independence and to run themselves as they saw fit but the Empire got privledges and rights over them, and this obviously infuriated the proud and pompous Chume.

 

But they fought with the Empire. The Hapans were EXTREME ISOLATIONISTS, not letting ANY outside force inta their space.

 

Just because they fought doesn't mean that they would win.

 

yeah i am sorry... but i refuse to believe they fought the empire and did not get whomped on... only 12 real systems worth of star ships vs the empire....


also i refuse to believe they attacked the empire with any real effect because the eperor would have responded accordingly and we would know about it.

i am forced to believe they were allowed to govern themselves and taxed to high hell by the empire.

 

Well, they fought them at least once, thats the battle where Teshik was severely wounded and his fleet was smashed.

 

When did that battle take place, and is there any more information about location, political sitution, etc? Maybe the Empire decided the Hapans were too tough for an easy conquest after initial campaigns and pursued other methods of subjugation - a backdoor arrangement a la the CSA or simply containing them until the Emperor could build his giant frickin' laser and send Tarkin in to break the stalemate.

While I'm asking, what was the name of the anti-Jedi group in Dark Journey? I'm trying to write this fic off the material in the Essential Chronology and the New Guide to Characters - everything else is in my bookshelf, 1200 miles north of Miami. Right now I'm writing the NRI agent's briefing - the exact plot development is unclear, but it's set right after CoPL and involves an NRI agent and one of Mon Mothma's aides being assigned to the New Republic consulate on Hapes to determine the Hapan political situation. Likely it's going to involve Ta'a Chume conducting some backstabbing, the rest of the royal court plotting advance-by-assassination, Imperial agents trying to sabotage the Hapan-Republic alliance, and a few other little bits.

 

Hapan Consortium was under Imperial rule until the death of the Emperor at Endor. The ISDs presented to Leia Organa during COPL was captured during the general Imperial retreat after the news of Endor spread. That information was from Leia herself, when asked by Han where those ISDs came from.


Also, Chume and Palpatine had an understanding with each other, as they both hate Jedi more than their love of power. So they were able to live along.