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Lit Was there ever a Jedi Chancellor?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by BedlamSpirit, Oct 11, 2013.

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  1. BedlamSpirit

    BedlamSpirit Jedi Knight star 1

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    Okay I don't know if this is the correct section for this, but I had this doubt, so basically yeah, I always had this doubt.

    Has there even been in the story of the Republic a Jedi Supreme Chancellor? It always struck me as odd that the Jedi having such a role in the Republic specially in the Sith War were never allowed for the position.
     
  2. The Loyal Imperial

    The Loyal Imperial Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Four hundred years of them, in fact.
     
  3. son_of_skywalker03

    son_of_skywalker03 Force Ghost star 4

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  4. Gorefiend

    Gorefiend Chosen One star 5

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    They did indeed take over the Republic for a while. From 1400 to 1000 BBY for example they only had Jedi as Chancellors, among them

    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Genarra


    Edit: [:D] @ this Board
     
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  5. BedlamSpirit

    BedlamSpirit Jedi Knight star 1

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    So actually when the Council considered taking over the Republic, it is something that had already happened before? Would they had indeed handed back the power to the Senate? How did the Jedi rule ended, were they forced out or they voluntarily handed down the power?
     
  6. Gorefiend

    Gorefiend Chosen One star 5

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    Yep during an especially brutal war against the Sith, which ended with the Battles of Ruusan, were the Sith wiped themselves out (along with a lot of the Jedi Order) and Bane decided to implement the Rule of Two and take the whole Sith thing underground. After that the Republic reformed itself under Tarsus Valorum and had pretty much held together pretty well until the Battle of Naboo.

    Why not? Senate would just need to vote on a new Chancellor.

    Tarsus Valorum was elected as Supreme Chancellor instead of a Jedi.
     
  7. JediMatteus

    JediMatteus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    So Chancellor was a fairly anemic position almost void of power. More like an honorary thing, with little executive ability. But Palpatine changed all that
     
  8. Vialco

    Vialco Force Ghost star 5

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    Mace Windu would likely have become Chancellor, had he succeeded in killing Palpatine.

    "The Jedi Council will have to take control of the Senate in order to ensure a peaceful transition."

    I think that the power would have gone to Mace's head, and the Jedi Council would probably end up ruling the Republic permanently.
     
  9. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Pretty standard for an executive in a Parliamentary system, actually.
     
  10. Skaddix

    Skaddix Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    True That. I mean usually its powerful because you are party is in charge and you are a high ranking member of said party which gives you power. But its really not like being Prez because there is a whole lot less you can do if the Parliament is deadlocked.
     
  11. THE EVIL CLIFFIE

    THE EVIL CLIFFIE Jedi Master star 2

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    On the other hand, the Parliament can't go against the Executive and attempt to shut them down since they automatically have a majority :p
     
  12. Grand Admiral Paxis

    Grand Admiral Paxis Jedi Master star 3

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    Biel Ductavis served as both Supreme Chancellor and Jedi Grand Master after the end of the Pius Dea Republic, so we have precedent long before Genarra and the Jedi of her time.
     
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  13. The Supreme Chancellor

    The Supreme Chancellor Jedi Master star 4

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    lol seriously man? I didn't think people in the real world could be this out of touch with "reality". Look at how reluctant Yoda is about the Jedi moving against the Senate. There is no hint of being hungry for power coming from the Jedi (except Anakin), they simply want to defend themselves from being wiped out and the galaxy being ruled by a maniac. And as mentioned here, the Jedi gave up power for 1000 years, why would they try to take it back now?
     
  14. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    *checks his government* Nope, it's still shut down so yeah, they can be.
     
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  15. Vialco

    Vialco Force Ghost star 5

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    I'm not saying the Jedi are power-hungry.

    But Yoda's the only one who seems reluctant to take action. Ki-Adi-Mundi says that they should remove Palpatine from office, something that the Jedi have no legal right to do. Mace Windu is the one who says that the Jedi need to take control of the Senate in order to end the conflict and bring peace. While Yoda urges them to use great care, he doesn't reject the idea outright.

    If the Jedi had managed to kill Palpatine, they would have taken control, make no mistake. And once they had taken control, it would have been very hard for them to give up that power. They would get used to it, to being able to dictate to the Senate, to the entire galaxy.

    I'm not saying a Republic under Jedi control would be a bad thing, but ROTS makes it very clear what the Jedi's intentions were towards the Republic.

    They were going to remove the legitimate Chancellor, by force if necessary, and impose their will on the Senate and Republic.
     
  16. Arrian

    Arrian Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Yeah, it's like presidents never have their governments shutdown or anything.
     
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  17. The Supreme Chancellor

    The Supreme Chancellor Jedi Master star 4

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    Palpatine was NOT the legitimate Chancellor, he served and his two terms and CONTINUED to rule and make constant amendments to the constitution. Once you are under dictatorship, the "legal" system no longer benefits the people, and is not the right thing to do. The entire mantra of the Jedi is about serving others, not ruling others.
     
  18. BedlamSpirit

    BedlamSpirit Jedi Knight star 1

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    Well but Palpatine served the terms because the Senate voted to have him there. This is like if the US Congress votes to have the President to be able to have unlimited terms, if the constitution is ammended to allow that, then it is legal and he can do it.
     
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  19. Gorefiend

    Gorefiend Chosen One star 5

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    Yeah but if they later figured out that the President committed various crimes against said country (many of them serving to get him these special powers) they would also have a problem with it. ;)
     
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  20. BedlamSpirit

    BedlamSpirit Jedi Knight star 1

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    Then have the Congress vote him out. You can't have the military take over and arrest him. If the Congress is such a fool that won't vote him out, then he is legally the president, regardless what he did.
     
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  21. AlyxDinas

    AlyxDinas Jedi Knight star 4

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    The idea that the Jedi would keep power permanently after ousting Palpatine is so absurd that it barely warrants consideration, to be frank.
     
  22. JediMatteus

    JediMatteus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    wouln't it be scary if this happens in real life OUR Palpatine staying inoffice over the allotted time, given emergency powers by Fema who declares a national disaster.... then we get the mark of the beast
     
  23. BedlamSpirit

    BedlamSpirit Jedi Knight star 1

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  24. Gorefiend

    Gorefiend Chosen One star 5

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    Ah they are just more underhanded now.
     
  25. Vialco

    Vialco Force Ghost star 5

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    "All those who have power are afraid to lose it, including the Jedi."

    The Jedi would find it difficult to let go of their power. I have no doubt they'd want to give it up, but they'd keep running into Separatist remnants or other problems which would convince them hold onto their power for a bit longer. Besides, even with the Jedi Council in control of the Senate, it would take years, perhaps even a decade to clean up all the damage done by the Sith and the Clone Wars. The Jedi would have to stay in power until it was all fixed.
     
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