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PT Were Neimoidians Meant to be Duros?

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by SlashMan, Apr 8, 2013.

  1. SlashMan

    SlashMan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I've seen this argument from super anti-EU fans: because of the similar appearance, they believe that the Neimoidian species was intended to be Duros (as first seen in the Cantina).

    For me, the appearance isn't quite close enough. Duros seem to have more elongated heads, and blueish skin, as opposed to the greenish skin of the Neimoidians. Plus, the hands are completely different. Also, the Neimoidians were definately not originally planned to be based off Duros in the first place (the initial sketches shown them as more of an organic version of the Battle Droids). And I can't remember, but I think the script refers to Neimoidians.
     
  2. A Chorus of Disapproval

    A Chorus of Disapproval Head Admin & TV Screaming Service star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    The defense rests, your honor.
     
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  3. Jcuk

    Jcuk Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Who cares? It was more their voices sounding like Kato from the Pink Panther or a tragic attempt at a comedic Japanese accent that was meant to be taken seriously. Were they meant to be comedic?
     
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  4. Saintheart

    Saintheart Force Ghost star 6

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    No, and that is both the tragic, and the serious part.
     
  5. DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR

    DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR Force Ghost star 5

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    Yes and yes. They were supposed to be the patsies, too, but some people didn't see that. They wanted them to be these evil dudes who were intelligent enough to lead invading armies?
     
  6. SlashMan

    SlashMan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I've heard inconsistant claims of stereotyping when it comes to the Neimoidians. From Chinese, to Thai, to Japanese. If their all the same to them, whose the one stereotyping? From official accounts, I've heard that the voice actors were given instruction to sound like foreigners trying to speak English. Interpret it as you will. Greedo's language is native to South Africa (Quechua). But I've never heard anyone accuse Greedo of stereotyping blacks.

    Going back to the original topic, it seems that it mainly relates to OOT fans who create their own canon to better establish a connection between the two trilogies (like saying Naboo is really Alderaan). I'm fine with that, but I'm just wondering if there's any factual evidence to the original topic.
     
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  7. kubricklynch

    kubricklynch Jedi Knight star 3

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    I'm confused, what does being "super anti-EU" have to do with anything?
     
  8. Darth Xalfrea

    Darth Xalfrea Jedi Master star 4

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    Maybe they feel the Neimodian background of "them being an offshoot of Duros" a poor excuse to not have actual Duros in the movie?
     
  9. kubricklynch

    kubricklynch Jedi Knight star 3

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    Oh yeah forgot they were related to Duros in the EU.
     
  10. Esg

    Esg Jedi Master star 4

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    Duros were in the OT
     
  11. kubricklynch

    kubricklynch Jedi Knight star 3

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    Yeah, I know. There's nothing about them being related to Neimoidians in the movies though.

    Unless I missed something in the super extra special edition.
     
  12. cthugha

    cthugha Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    In fact there are two Duros in Chalmun's Cantina to compare them with.
     
  13. Darth Scourge

    Darth Scourge Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Essentially, yes.
    When the original look for the Neimoidians in TPM was dropped (later to be re-used for the Geonosians in AOTC), Lucas simply chose the look of the Neimoidians from stills of the various Cantina aliens from ANH.
    He chose (what the EU refers to as) Duros.
     
  14. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Chosen One star 6

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    I see what you're trying to do there. :p
     
  15. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Chosen One star 7

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    That's because [Not opening that can in here. ~Sx3]
     
  16. DarthLazious28273

    DarthLazious28273 Jedi Youngling

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    I always thought they were honestly.
     
  17. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Chosen One star 7

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    Duros and Neimoidians are related species but not the same..
     
  18. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Chosen One star 7

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    oh really:eek:
     
  19. SlashMan

    SlashMan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Just to clarify, the term Neimodian has been used in many sources outside the films, but never mentioned in the film, so by some people's standards, that doesn't count. Still "Cato Neimoidia" is mentioned in the movies.
     
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  20. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord 50x Wacky Wed/3x Two Truths/28x H-man winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    What about the cast lists- do they ever mention "Neimoidian Crewman 1" "Neimoidian Crewman 2" etc?
     
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  21. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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    I love you.
     
  22. SlashMan

    SlashMan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Well that pretty much confirms it.
     
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  23. darth fluffy

    darth fluffy Jedi Master star 2

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    Yes, but do the Neimodians...

    contradict the EU?

    :eek:
     
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  24. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Chosen One star 7

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    No, but they will never be as cool as Cade Bane because he is Duros.
     
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  25. Lazy Storm Trooper

    Lazy Storm Trooper Jedi Master star 4

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    He's Duros. Let it begin.
     
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