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Were Obi-Wan And Chewbacca Guided To Each Other By Yoda?

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by LASTJEDICHOSENONE, Aug 19, 2005.

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  1. LASTJEDICHOSENONE

    LASTJEDICHOSENONE Jedi Youngling star 2

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    In ROTS, we see that Chewbacca has a strong connection / friendship with Yoda. And Yoda thinks enough of Chewie to "miss" him. Yoda obviously watched over Luke and Leia over the years through the Force, and even tells Luke he had watched over him all his life in TESB. Did Yoda also watch over Chewbacca? (Furthermore, did Yoda sense in Chewbacca that he would continue to play a pivitol role in later helping to free the Galaxy?) No doubt he and Obi-Wan had communicated telepathically throughthe Force during their exile and Qui-Gonn was also communicating with the both of them. And, after his dealings with Yoda, Chewbacca would certainly know a Jedi Knight when he saw one. Were he and Obi-Wan guided to finding
    one another through Yoda via the Force?
     
  2. LASTJEDICHOSENONE

    LASTJEDICHOSENONE Jedi Youngling star 2

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    No one has any thoughts on this?
     
  3. ClonedEmperor

    ClonedEmperor Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Interesting theory... I would tend to agree with you... Also how did Obi Wan know Wookie? In the novel he chats with Chewie in his native tounge
     
  4. Master_Jedi80

    Master_Jedi80 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    There is definatively a lot to be left up to imagination. I dont think we can have a definite answer to your question...

    Since Yoda and Chewie are in ROTS together, it definately enlightens the way we view Chewie, and the encounter between Ben and Chewie in the Cantina.

    Your guess is as good as mine as to how they ended up speaking or if it was pre-destined, foreseen, or "arranged".

    I would like to think that Ben, went over to the Wookie, because he knew of the "good relations" with Yoda and how they helped Yoda escape order 66. And that Wookies dont like the Empire.

    Use your imagination as to whether Ben knew that it was the exact wookie who helped Yoda or not...
    Does Ben know Chewie?? Does he know "of" Chewie? I dont know? Does he feel yodas presence, can he feel something, does he let the force guide him????

    It seems, the most logical assumption is...atleast from Chewies end, he was not guided by Yoda.
    perhaps, Ben is guided, or remebers what Yoda said about a wookie named Chewie, or just that Wookies can be trusted.

    i like this...

    Ben needs a discreet passage to Alderan--without imperial intanglements.
    Ben sees the wookie. Knows about their good treatment of Yoda, and the fact that Wookies are NO friend to the empire.
    After telling Chewie what hes looking for, without giving away to many details about himself or their mission, Chewie says, yeah, lets go talk to my buddy Han, and see what he thinks.

    Ben can sense that Chewie can be trusted.

    One thing we can not forget, is the line :
    "Chewie Growls"...Han says "You said it Chewie, where did you dig up that old fossil"

    Now we have no idea what Chewie says in his growl, but it seems he is agreeing with the idea that Ben is an OLD...

    You originally think Chewie is remarking on the idea of the "force", and rideculing the force...but maybe he is just saying, "I havent heard talk of the force/jedi since the clone wars..." Not as demeaning to a jedi as the first interpretation.

    Chewie does see Ben use a lightsaber...so he must assume hes a Jedi... maybe thats why he he talks to him at all.

    Maybe ben and Chewie are talking about Yoda? Maybe Ben mentioned how the jedi helped the Wookies in the battle of Kashyyke at the end of the CLone wars. Maybe he just trusted his feelings, and words of Yoda, that Wookies are good beings.

    even before the prequels, i always would wonder and imagine what Ben and Chewie were saying...
    and now, in light of the PT, you can put a whole new spin on it...

    Its these ambiguities, that Lucas loves to give us viewers, so we can discuss them...

    In my opinion, they dont talk about Ben being a jedi, because he is in Hiding and wouldnt openly tell anyone he was a Jedi... But it is because of his knowledge of The encounter of Yoda and the wookies during Order 66, that lets Ben trust Chewie and approach him for a ride...




     
  5. -maynard-

    -maynard- Jedi Youngling star 3

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    thats a really cool thought. obviously, such a conclusion couldnt be reached unless ROTS is seen. i highly doubt that this was Lucas' intention, but still the connection is there.

    what is interesting is the question of: to what extent can these "new" Jedi influence sentiants and thus the course of history, by simply using their minds?

    another question: how does all this Force usage go undetected by the emperor and vader?
     
  6. steve_palpatine

    steve_palpatine Jedi Youngling

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    quite possibly, or maybe it was just the force itself
     
  7. skyysoblue

    skyysoblue Jedi Youngling star 2

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    The Jedi do not have the power of telepathy when living. Ben was not yelling "run luke" or "jump into the trash compactor" until after he died. At this moment, there does not exist a theory of the force for Yoda to guide Ben or Chewbacca.

    However, it is very plausible that Obi Wan did recognize Chewbacca and knew him well enough at least to approach him with the question about finding passage on a vehicle.
     
  8. LASTJEDICHOSENONE

    LASTJEDICHOSENONE Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Luke telepathically called to Leia while he was hanging at the bottomof Cloud City and she heard him. Vader spoke telepathically to Luke while on the Falcon just after their duel at the end of TESB, and was heard. So, they CAN communicate that way while alive. I don't think Yoda sent Chewie to the Cantina, but perhaps sensed that Obi-Wan and Chewie were in the same place at the same time and guided Obi-Wan to him. It doesn't seemed planned, but there is a definate "meeting of destiny" here - on MANY levels! That goes for ALL involved.
    Not only did Chewie have a history with Yoda, but he and Han would go on to save and protect both Luke and Leia a number of times. They were also detrimental to bringing Luke and Leia together in the first place, and the Death Star would not have been destroyed if not for them (for preventing Vader from shooting down his son and getting him out of the way) as well as Luke (for destroying it) and Leia (for stealing the plans that enabled the rebels to attack it). All who opposed and fought the Empire contributed greatly to its fall. But, among that small handful who are most DIRECTLY responsible are Yoda, Obi-Wan, Luke, Leia, Han, Chewie, Lando, Wedge, 3PO, R2, (R2 much MORE so, but 3PO had his moments, too) and even Vader. But the main "powerhouse" was the joining of Luke, Leia, Han, and Chewie - and the droids. NONE of that would ever have happened the way it did if Obi-Wan and Chewbacca had not crossed paths that day. And now we see, through ROTS, that THAT may not have happened if not for Chewbacca's previous dealings with Yoda. One wonders if Yoda had any insights into all that...premonition-like feelings, etc., about Chewbacca's role in the future of the galaxy.
     
  9. Darth_Davi

    Darth_Davi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I don't know if he did or not, but it would explain the speed in which Obi-Wan was able to retain Chewie and Han's services. They weren't in the cantina but a minute, and Obi-Wan had already managed to get a charter to go to Alderaan? Very quick work indeed. Having Chewie already be an "ally" because of his association with Yoda certainly would have made that conversation easier.
     
  10. Rogue...Jedi

    Rogue...Jedi Administrator Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I suppose its possible... but I find it more likely that either Obi-Wan and Chewie had met previously, either during or before the Clone Wars... or if they hadn't and it wasn't a coincidence, then it was the Force guiding Obi-Wan, not Yoda.
     
  11. LASTJEDICHOSENONE

    LASTJEDICHOSENONE Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Wait! I just realized something when viewing it again. Chewbacca witnessed a couple of the Jedi Council's meetings via hologram standing behind Yoda when Obi-Wan was mentioned!
     
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