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What are the real names of biblical figures?

Discussion in 'Archive: Your Jedi Council Community' started by slimybug, Dec 6, 2006.

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  1. slimybug

    slimybug Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I know that when The Bible is translated into English, a lot of the names get "English-ized." I know that several, if not all, of the big biblical figures, including Jesus, may very wellhave gone by completely different names.
    I read in my history book that Jesus' real name was Joshua. It also says on Wikipedia that, in Judeo-Aramaic, Mary's name was Maryam. Would Judeo-Aramaic be the language she spoke? She lived in Israel right? Wouldn't that mean that she spoke Hebrew? I know that they say in 'The Passion of the Christ,' they say that they speak Aramaic and Hebrew. Are Hebrew and Judeo-Aramaic the same thing, and just a division of Aramaic?W hat exactly is Aramaic?

    A lot of questions, I kow. I'm jsut hoping there will be an expert somewhere on these boards.

    Slimy!
     
  2. Jedi_Mark

    Jedi_Mark Jedi Knight star 5

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    Jesus spoke primarily Aramaic.
    And His name was pronounced Yay-shoe-Uh.
     
  3. JediofJade

    JediofJade Jedi Master star 5

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    Very good, Mark. Spelled: Yeshua


     
  4. Jabba-wocky

    Jabba-wocky Chosen One star 10

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    Hold on. I've got a longish books somewhere, that covers several of the major Prophets and Kings.

    Because I'm having trouble finding it, here's a brief point:

    The -iah ending you see in a lot of names (Isaiah, Hezekiah, Uriah, Josiah, Jeremiah, etc) is actually -YAH from the Hebrew, as in the the tetragrammaton. So literally, all those names are constructions like "God is ______" or whatever. "I will trust in God." "God is my strength." You also see that in Jesus, name, which, as has been mentioned, is Yeshua or "YAH SHUA" translated loosely "God is salvation." An appropriate name, given what he claimed to be.
     
  5. Kyle Katarn

    Kyle Katarn Force Ghost star 6

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    Moses with special Kung Fu grip??
     
  6. YouAgain

    YouAgain Jedi Master star 5

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    [image=http://ninjapirate.com/images/supersaiyanjesus.jpg]


    goku!
     
  7. Jedi_Mark

    Jedi_Mark Jedi Knight star 5

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    Thanks. It is kind of an area of expertise of mine. :)
     
  8. slimybug

    slimybug Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Okay, so if his name was Yeshua, where on Earth do we get 'Jesus' from?

    Slimy!
     
  9. George_Roper

    George_Roper Jedi Knight star 7

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    Yeshua Christ! This thread is pissing me off.
     
  10. YoungAngus

    YoungAngus Jedi Master star 5

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    Uhm...No. Jesus spoke American. He was born in Missouri. I don't know what the hell you guys are talking about.

    [face_flag]
     
  11. Kyle Katarn

    Kyle Katarn Force Ghost star 6

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    This is going back a ways, my memory is a bit foggy, but I'm certain there's some truth to it.

    As I recall, the Latinized form of "Yeshua" is "Iesus". It's different because Latin and Hebrew phonetics don't directly translate over to one another. The Latin version was an attempt to recreate the sound of the name Yeshua using Latin spelling. The name became "Jesus" when English developed a "j" sound. I seem to recall the "j" sound being a later invention, possibly during the Middle Ages, but I'm not entirely sure. The "j" sound was closer than the Latin "I" sound to the actual Hebrew pronounciation of "Yeshua", ergo Yeshua=Jesus.

    You'll find a similar spelling change with "Judea". The area we now call "Israel" was the Roman province of "Ieudea" which was also an attempt to Latinize the the Hebrew sound found in what we call in English "Judea".
     
  12. Jabba-wocky

    Jabba-wocky Chosen One star 10

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    So apparently, I lost a book at some point.[face_plain]
     
  13. KissMeImARebel

    KissMeImARebel Force Ghost star 5

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    God's real name is Yahweh...I think
     
  14. SANTA-CLAUS-KENOBI

    SANTA-CLAUS-KENOBI Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I thought it was jehovah.
     
  15. jedi_john_33

    jedi_john_33 Jedi Master star 7

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    JediofJade Jedi Master star 5

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    Same dif
     
  17. Layren

    Layren Jedi Master star 5

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    You're correct, God's name in Hebrew is Yaweh. As for the others, there are some Bible names that just dont' translate to English well and if it wasn't so late I'd post a couple examples but I'm hitting the sack.
     
  18. RebelScum77

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    It is possible I am actually learning something here? Zomg!! :eek:
     
  19. JediKnightOB1

    JediKnightOB1 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Emanuel!!!

    I think it is kind of strange that the names of the deciples were English. Except for Judas and Mathias.

    Matthew, Mark, John... George, Paul and Ringo.

    How King James is that?
     
  20. Jedi_Mark

    Jedi_Mark Jedi Knight star 5

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    Yahweh, Jehovah, Immanuel, all the same thing. He is actually called many things in the Old Testament. These three the most though.
    Yahweh is the closest in ancient aramaic to how God is "pronounced".
     
  21. Jedi_Mark

    Jedi_Mark Jedi Knight star 5

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    Judas was also known as Thaddaeus and Bartholomew isnt exactly an English name either.
    Peter's name in aramaic is actually Ke'pha
     
  22. DarthNotsonice

    DarthNotsonice Jedi Master star 5

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    Actually the Romans spelled it Ivdea or more formally Ivdæa[image=http://encyclopedia.quickseek.com/images/Sestertius_-_Vespasiano_-_Iudaea_Capta-RIC_0424.4.jpg]
    it was spelled Ivdæa with the "æ" because the Greeks,and the Syrians spelled it as "Ioudaia"

     
  23. LeeKenobi

    LeeKenobi Jedi Knight star 6

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    Don't believe Indiana Jones--there shouldn't have been a 'J' inside the temple in the first place.

    And Indy should have known that to begin with.
    But I can forgive him...I mean, if some bastard Nazi sympathizer shot your dad, you probably wouldn't think straight either.

    EDIT--as for "Emanuel", I believe it means "God is with us"
     
  24. SoloKnight

    SoloKnight Jedi Master star 4

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    I always was tought that Jesus was the Greek version of Yeshua. This made sense to me since the NT was originally written in Koine Greek (aka Common Greek) and so the names would be the Greek versions and not the Hebrew versions like in the OT.
     
  25. Miana Kenobi

    Miana Kenobi Admin Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    =D= to all the people in this thread.
     
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