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What do the prequels and TCW have against helmets?

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Completed Shows' started by JEDI_MADDEN, Oct 20, 2008.

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  1. JEDI_MADDEN

    JEDI_MADDEN Jedi Youngling

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    I really enjoy TCW very much. But I do wish that they made a little more sense when it comes to the fighter pilot Jedis. I don't understand why they don't wear helmets or flight suits. I know that people may say it's to see the "actors" face clearly, but I think that it kind of takes me out of the experience. Luke and Red Squadron wore helmets and flight suits and I think it made the battle sequences more compelling(hence why I believe that the SW III opening space battle lacked any suspense).

    As a 3D hobbyist, making a helmet is quite simple. And a flight suit, would break up the monotony of seeing Anakin and Ahsoka in the same outfit all of the time (a post is coming on her halter-top very soon) and would even allow the Lucasfilms to sell more toys. Here me Starshop.com? I will say it again:


    YOU.COULD.SELL.MORE.TOYS.

    What do you guys think? Are Jedi's heads harder than normal beings? If they eject, can they hold their breath and keep warm and pressurized by the force? I'd like to know what the directors, and writers have against flight suits and helmets.
     
  2. Ashoka

    Ashoka Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Dave and co just doesn't want to ruin the continuity of what's already done.

    I don't really find anything wrong with helmet-less/suit-less Jedi.

    "Hey Anakin, enemy fighters incoming"
    "Wait, trying... to... put... my... flightsuit ARGH!"
    "It's okay, my helmet's too big, need to find a size 24! So we're both just be late and let them take over Coruscant."

    [face_laugh]
     
  3. Rogue_Pilot

    Rogue_Pilot Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I think, since Jedi in the prequels - specifically Anakin and Obi Wan - were constantly in and out of starships, it would have been awkward for them to constantly change between flight suits and Jedi garb.

    And besides, What is the helmet for? Targeting? Jedi don't need that, they "use the force" and "let go". :)
     
  4. TheGallifreianSith

    TheGallifreianSith Jedi Youngling

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    Besides, from a practical point of view, a flight-suit isn't going to help you all that well when you're ship blows up in outer-space. It might make sense if you had a chance to punch out and wait to be rescued-- like we read about in some of the EU novels, but we've never seen it in the movies; where the ships explode into a ball of fire with very little to no debris.
     
  5. Ludo_Kressh

    Ludo_Kressh Jedi Knight star 5

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    Maybe they don't believe in speederbike safety.:p

     
  6. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I think the primary benefit would be to avoid concussions if they bang their head during an impact, as well as the visor providing glare protection from thr explosions and suns.
     
  7. _Sublime_Skywalker_

    _Sublime_Skywalker_ Jedi Master star 4

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    If Jedi wore helmets, we wouldn't get to see our characters faces. Plus this show is technically for kids, and even though they'd scramble to buy the helmets, the younger ones would get confused and probably think they're clones.

    Jedi don't need helmets. They're aware and fast enough to duck or dodge head shots. Plus, they're piloting is above average because of the force. Of course this all goes out the window in ROTS.
     
  8. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Chosen One star 7

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    Not necessarily...
     
  9. LordHibbidyhai

    LordHibbidyhai Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I think the whole point of helmets are to keep you from bumping your head and knocking yourself out, not primarily for weapons control (although some real life fighters and helicopter gunship do have this).

    Maybe Jedi don't have to worry about knocking themselves out. But I think a flight suit is reasonable. Why do they need to go changing in out anyways, as soon as they ignite their lightsaber everyone is going to know what is up anyways. If standard garb is good enough for Luke Skywalker it ought to be good enough for them ( : .
     
  10. Biddybot

    Biddybot Jedi Youngling star 1

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    This was actually referenced to in either the ROTS novelization or in one of its bracketing novels (can't remember exactly which book)! The reason given for why Jedi never wore flightsuits or helmets was that they felt it boosted the morale of their troops. I guess I can sort of buy that, if you take their lack of precautions as a wordless way of stating, "I am so confident that I can come through this conflict unscathed that I see no point in donning needless protective gear, and if you follow me, I'll get you through it unscathed as well."
     
  11. Gobi-1

    Gobi-1 Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The Force is the only protection they need.
     
  12. EHT

    EHT Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    On a somewhat related note, I always thought it was funny how often people are taking their helmets off in the PT vs. the OT. In the OT, Boba Fett and all of the stormtroopers always leave their helmets on. But in the PT, we constantly see Jango Fett and many of the clone troopers taking their helmets off and carrying them around... as if to say, "Hi! I'm Temuera Morrison!"
     
  13. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Chosen One star 7

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    It was also briefly discussed in The Cestus Deception.
     
  14. Admiral_Stone

    Admiral_Stone Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I'm pretty sure it was in the ROTSICS, talking about how it insired the clones or something like that...
     
  15. JEDI_MADDEN

    JEDI_MADDEN Jedi Youngling

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    Uhhh... if it "inspired" the clones so much, why didn't they stop wearing helmets?

    I hope that in later episodes, we'll see more EV (extra-vehicular) jedis, not just aliens like Plo-Koon who wears a gas mask and 3-d glasses even on Coruscant. Maybe to board an enemy ship (like in the Genndy series).

    This is one thing I don't like about hollywood. In almost every war throughout history and civilization, helmets have played a key role, yet most movies the heroes do not. TCW gets it right with the troopers, but with the jedi, I'd like to see it one day. Obi-wan wears armor to protect himself from injury, despite having JEEDI reflexes, so what injury is worse than one to the head?
     
  16. _Sublime_Skywalker_

    _Sublime_Skywalker_ Jedi Master star 4

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    Because it's part of their signature look? They have respect for their former clone brothers, and keep that legacy going. Also, if they didn't wear helmets there wouldn't be that clonetrooper/ stormtrooper connection.
     
  17. EHT

    EHT Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Or maybe the clone troopers wear helmets to protect their heads... ;)

    To the viewer the helmets are a visual connection to the stormtroopers, but in-universe they wear them for a reason. In addition to offering protection, I'm pretty sure the helmets have other features such as visual enhancers and comlinks.
     
  18. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The helmets are an important part of the clonetrooper armor; it provides communications, targeting, and of course, protection.

    The Jedi don't have any serious need for the first two, given that they can email your brain from kilometers away by thinking about it and carry swords instead of blasters, and I think the prequel Jedi don't wear armor for protection as a general rule because they view it as being against the will of the Force; if it's their time to die, then it's their time to die.

    I'm pretty sure the "it inspires their troops" stuff is only somewhat accurate. If I saw some dude on a battlefield attacking thousands of droids wearing a bathrobe and wielding a sword, I'd probably think he was abit daffy. If he lived, then yes, it'd be somewhat inspiring. If he didn't, I'd feel pretty much correct in my earlier assessment of him being a moron. :p
     
  19. DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR

    DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR Force Ghost star 5

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    I guess from watching the Prequels and TCW, Jedi can create a biological force field that somehow strenghtens their bodies, which can also protect them from extreme heat, cold, as well as the pressures of space. Now, we just have to hear them say they can do this?
     
  20. Alpha-Red

    Alpha-Red 18X Hangman Winner star 7 VIP - Game Winner

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    Speaking of helments, doesn't the clonetrooper helmet severely restrict the pilot's field of vision?
     
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