PT What if Anakin never turned. The Answer to the question.

This is how it would, and SHOULD have been. Here ya go.


Anakin lets Mace kill Darth Sidious. Order 66, never happening, he later meets up with Obi-Wan, and they both meet with the Jedi Council. They discuss about the possibilities of any other Sith Lords, and the fate of the Republic. Seeing most fit to lead, the elect Padme' to be Chancellor. Much to Anakin's disapproval, the council meets with Padme, and notices that she is pregnant. Mace immediatley questions Anakin, because he was trying to dissuade the councils attention from her, bringing attention to himself. They have a lengthy discussion, but seeing as he is the chosen one, still allow him to stay in the Order. Padme, is voted into power through the Galactic Senate, and the war slowly comes to an end. Now, Anakin Skywalker, after more Djem'So Lightsaber training, and training with the force, becomes the most powerful force wielder of all time period. His Son and Daughter, Luke and Leia are born into the Order, and the Jedi are never touched by the Sith again. This is because, The Jedi use Darth Banes rule of two against the Sith, and the chain is broken. No More Sith Period. NMSP. Done. Anakin then moves on to gain a seat on the Council itself, which before he was denied. He also attains the title Master Skywalker. The Droid Army defeated at Utapau goes into recess. Kashyyk, Utapau, and other systems fall, a peace agreement is struck up by Padme and the Separtists, and Count Dooku, is later hunted down by Anakin, Obi Wan, Yoda, and Windu. Count Dooku, is ultimatley defeated and all is good ever after. It is then realised by Anakin, that the visions were false, and were merley telekenitic attacks by Sidious, to try to get him to turn to the Dark side quicker.. And she does NOT die after childbirth.

Anakin and Windu return to the Jedi Temple

*Anakin and Windu exhausted from Running*

Anakin and Obi Wan are greeted by Masters Plo-Koon, Yoda, Ayla Secura,and Obi-Wan

Anakin says to them: " Master Windu and I are back as you requested Master Yoda, Windu and I have Defeated the Sith Lord"

Mace Windu then says" It turns out our Sith Lord was actually Chancellor Palpatine, however that problem has been dealt with"- "However, Master Fisto and my fellow Jedi were.......Lost"

Yoda, waving his cane and lowering it back down says " Sorry news to hear, about Fisto and the others, that is. Applaud you and Anakin, I do, defeating Sidious, no easy task must it have been."

Obi-Wan, looking now at Anakin says: " Good Job on defeating this Dark Lord Windu, I am sure your skills proved useful. And Good Job to you Anakin, I am very, very proud of you. How about we go enjoy ourselves later?"

Anakin then with a smile says " Thank you Obi-Wan, you taught me well in the arts of patience, which i still dont have buuuut, Im working on it"

Mace " Why yes, Obi-Wan, without Anakin, I fear the battle may have turned out for the worst. He saved my life almost, and this may have been a trial for Skywalker"( Anakins looks at Mace with interest)

Yoda then speaks and says "A Great Trial, perhaps"

Anakin then says " You don't mean what i thin-)

Yoda " Yes, Skywalker, a trial, great this was. Master, position are you granted. Along with a seat, on the council. Hm?"

Anakin " Wow, I can't, I can't, Thank you so much, to you Master Yoda, and, and all of you"

Obi-Wan "Oh yes, congratulations Anakin, and a Master you are indeed"

 

Interesting perceptions but it's not what I think should've happened at all.

 

What do you propose do you think should have happened?

 

Here's one thing I think should have happened...

Everything in ROTS goes the same up until the point where Mace is about to kill Sidious. At that point, Anakin (instead of cutting off Mace's hand) blocks his blade very much like he did Luke's strike on Sidious in ROTJ. Those two then engage in a vicious duel as Anakin protects Sidious from Windu. Anakin becomes increasingly aggressive throughout the duel and starts to allow the Dark Side to flow through him. Eventually we see his eyes become enflamed like they are on Mustafar and he eventually destroys Windu with his combination of rage and skill. At this point, he has given in to the Dark Side, become emotionally unstable due to its influence over him, and realizes that the Jedi would disown him. He also wants to learn more from Sidious, so he becomes his apprentice.

I think that would be better than how things went down in ROTS. I think Anakin being a committed Jedi one minute and killing defenseless kids the next was a bit too rushed and unrealistic. I think his aggression should have been at the forefront of his turn and we see the Dark Side take him over to the point where he is not really himself anymore. I think that would have been better.

 

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It's certainly interesting to think of the possibilities of how Episode III could have had a happy ending. While I don't think things would have transpired like you described, you bring some interesting thoughts.

 

Anakin couldn't have beaten Windu. Windu's use of the Vaapad fight style allowed him to draw more power the longer somebody dueled him, and seeing how much Dark Side energy Anakin had, Anakin would be letting Windu feed off his power, ergo, i foresee, Windu would win.

 

You can make anything you want happen in a movie.

 

No one would win. Mace would break open the office window with his saber and the loss of pressure would suck them out.

Roll credits.

 

I like this, but after a short duel between them, I would still make Anakin cut off Mace's hand and then have Palpatine see the opportunity to use his force lightning. But the duel would have to be executed very well and I don't know if it could have come out any better than what we have now. Another lightsaber duel in this movie would probably be a bit too much.

 

If only things would turned this way how greatly different things would have been.


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Yeah, but we are talking about the most critical aspect of the whole trilogy, which is (of course) the nature of Anakin's turn to the Dark Side and his transformation into Darth Vader. I say do what you have to do to make sure that scene stands up. Personally, I don't think it does as it is. Anakin joins Palps and proceeds to lead an attack on the Jedi Temple based on "maybe" being able to save Padme with the powers he can acquire through the Dark Side. That is just not something a sane individual would do. I would rather see Anakin give into his aggression under more reasonable circumstances and have the Dark Side take him over in the process and change his character.

 

In response to your enquiry: What you lay out reads a little too pat and a little too convenient for my taste. Personally, I most object to 'hunting down' the Sith. Sidious is the key problem but for me neither he or Dooku are beyond redemption. I would offer a path of mercy. I think Dooku would take it and be salvagable. I think Sidious would likely refuse but by his own blindness not by my passing judgement on him. For me, Sidious is truly the only one that morally has earned death if he refused to see sense. I would have Anakin and Dooku work together to change the Jedi into a wiser and more balanced organisation. I would have them seek to END the needless endless warring.

 

Yoda tried that, very hard, in Yoda: Dark Rendezvous. Dooku simply wouldn't take it.

 

That is according to one author.

 

But an exceptionally talented author at that.

 

I don't contest that. I like Y: DR which says something but it doesn't change my stance.

 

Dooku's sheer pride, at least in the ROTS novel, makes it somewhat uncharacteristic for him to truly accept any "path of mercy". To achieve redemption requires humility - which Dooku seems to lack.

 

To some.

 

Going by the movies, the "endless warring" has more to do with Sith obsession with ruling the galaxy, than "flawed Jedi Order". We got a thousand years of peace, after all (because the Sith were in hiding).

 

Dooku's sheer pride, at least in the ROTS novel, makes it somewhat uncharacteristic for him to truly accept any "path of mercy". To achieve redemption requires humility - which Dooku seems to lack.

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this would make for a very interesting thread actually,

I disagree that Dooku lacked humility though. Sure he was a staunch believer in his politics and views, but he was no Maul was he?

Anyway in answer to the OP question: it ended the only way it could have... as the middle of the story was made first 20 plus years before.

 

The quote in question from the ROTS novel:

He is the icon of the Separatist movement, its public face. He is to the Confederacy of Independent Systems what Palpatine is to the Republic: the living symbol of the justice of its cause.
This is the public story.
This is the story that even Dooku, in his weaker moments, almost believes.
The truth is more complicated.
Dooku is... different.
He doesn't remember quite when he discovered this; it may have been when he was a young Padawan, betrayed by another learner who had claimed to be his friend. Lorian Nod had said it to his face: "You don't know what friendship is."
And he didn't.
He had been angry, certainly; furious that his reputation had been put at risk. And he had been angry at himself, for his error in judgment: trusting as an ally one who was in fact an enemy. The most astonishing part of the whole affair had been that even after turning on him before the Jedi, the other boy had expected him to participate in a lie, in the name of their "friendship."
It had been all so preposterous that he hadn't known how to reply.
In fact, he has never been entirely sure what beings mean when they speak of friendship.
Love, hate, joy, anger—even when he can feel the energy of these emotions in others, they translate in his perception to other kinds of feelings.
The kinds that make sense.
Jealousy he understands, and possessiveness: he is fierce when any being encroaches on what is rightfully his.
Intolerance, at the intractability of the universe, and at the undisciplined lives of its inhabitants: this is his normal state.
Spite is a recreation: he takes considerable pleasure from the suffering of his enemies.
Pride is a virtue in an aristocrat, and indignation his inalienable right: when any dare to impugn his integrity, his honor, or his rightful place atop the natural hierarchy of authority.
And moral outrage makes perfect sense to him: when the incorrigibly untidy affairs of ordinary beings refuse to conform to the plainly obvious structure of How Society Ought To Be.
He is entirely incapable of caring what any given creature might feel for him. He cares only what that creature might do for him. Or to him.
Very possibly, he is what he is because other beings just aren't very ... interesting.
Or even, in a sense, entirely real.
For Dooku, other beings are mostly abstractions, simple schematic sketches who fall into two essential categories.
The first category is Assets: beings who can be used to serve his various interests. Such as—for most of his life, and to some extent even now—the Jedi, particularly Mace Windu and Yoda, both of whom had regarded him as their friend for so long that it had effectively blinded them to the truth of his activities. And of course—for now—the Trade Federation, and the InterGalactic Banking Clan, the Techno Union, the Corporate Alliance, and the weapon lords of Geonosis. And even the common rabble of the galaxy, who exist largely to provide an audience of sufficient size to do justice to his grandeur.
The other category is Threats. In this second set, he numbers every sentient being he cannot include in the first.
There is no third category.​

 

as that book claims that Amidala was the youngest queen elected on Naboo, (something AOTC disagreed with) I won't waste my time reading that.

 

Does nothing to alter my stances glad it works for you, IL.

 

Tricky question to answer considering the 2nd half of the saga was released first, but if Anakin never turned, then basically there would be a divergent timeline where the Jedi order was never destroyed. As for the dominant government, I don't know, but there needed to be some serious reforms, if there was to be a lasting peace between the sepratists and the republic.