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What is the most evil act in all of Star Wars?

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  1. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 8

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    I think the destruction of Alderaan would be on the list, but there are so many more choices and events explored in the EU that are far more evil than this. What do you think is the most evil thing ever done in Star Wars?
     
  2. NelanisGhost

    NelanisGhost Jedi Youngling star 4

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    The YV were the most evil. They killed for NO REASON. Saba's whole race, and Ithor and how they trashed and messed up trillions of lives. They should have been destroyed down to bacteria, not rewarded with a fabulous planet to live on. W.T.pants.? That is my reaction to that nonsense.
     
  3. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    That depends on how you want to define evil's great.

    * General Grevious' destruction of Humbardine is probably the single greatest atrocity in terms of body count that has ever occurred in Star Wars.

    * Anakin killing Padme is the only case of spouse abuse in all of the EU.

    * Byss is probably the single greatest act of manslaughter ever committed by EU heroes.

    * Revelation has the only case of off-screen reported EU Rape with Boba Fett's wife (herself a bounty hunter) being reduced to a "woman in the fridge."

    * The Yuuzhan Vong War is undoubtedly the most devastating Star Wars War by far.

    Uhhh, didn't they pretty much kill the entirety of the Yuuzhan Vong's leadership so it was mostly Shamed Ones?

    Wouldn't this be like rounding up all the German Citizens in Labor Camps and killing them?
     
  4. masterskywalker

    masterskywalker Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Ripping someone's mind to pieces with the force, Sith torture style.

    I'd put a blaster to my head for SURE if I knew that was coming.
     
  5. darth_Boba

    darth_Boba Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I consider Anakin's kid killing to be pretty bad, though I doubt it's the most evil thing anyone in Star Wars has ever done.
     
  6. MistrX

    MistrX Jedi Master star 4

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    On a sheer evil scale, I'm not sure you can top Alderaan in my mind. Though enslaving half of the galaxy and launching the other half into suns for your gods have to rank up there. But that's several acts, rather than one single.
     
  7. Manisphere

    Manisphere Jedi Master star 5

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    Anakins killing of the younglings is viscerally the most awful thing I've seen in SW. Alderan is of course worse because it's the death of billions yet because we see none of them it doesn't hit the audience like the destruction of a planet should. But to move the story along we couldn't very well linger in that holocaust. I think even Leia's reaction to Anakin killing the younglings would have been more dramatic than seeing her home planet demolished.
     
  8. NelanisGhost

    NelanisGhost Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Whoops, sorry, I didn't know we couldn't say that anymore, being nothing really at all, but letters. But I get it.


    * Anakin killing Padme is the only case of spouse abuse in all of the EU.


    Am I missing something? When did Anakin kill Padme? He didn't kill her. Didn't even hurt her, much, well physically....
     
  9. Eskimo9000

    Eskimo9000 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Darth Zannah butchering Caleb then turning her cousin insane and leaving him to be killed by Jedi so she and bane could escape is probably the most evil act in my opinion.
     
  10. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    I'm pretty sure he choked her to death.

    Lost the Will to Live and pregnancy on weird asteroid nonwithstanding.
     
  11. Master_Keralys

    Master_Keralys VIP star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Not so much. If he'd choked her to death, she'd have died on the platform. There's no way that choking to death would let her have labor. You can complain about the logic of what actually happened all you want, but the truth is that had he choked her to death, she'd have been dead right then. Trachea collapse leads to death in very short order.

    The most evil act in all of SW? That probably has to go to Alderaan, or a similar class of destruction, if we're talking sheer effect of evil. The burning of Ithor, maybe? But for visceral evil, I definitely have to go with either Anakin's killing of the Younglings, or perhaps the murders that open Shatterpoint.

    - Keralys
     
  12. TogashiAikune

    TogashiAikune Jedi Master star 2

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    Kyp Durron destroying the Carida star system and as a result all but wiping out an entire sentient species.
     
  13. CernStormrunner

    CernStormrunner Jedi Grand Master star 4

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  14. Master_Keralys

    Master_Keralys VIP star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Not here, too! :p

    I think a profitable part of this discussion could be looking at the notion of what, precisely, we mean by evil. But perhaps that's another thread entirely. [face_thinking]

    - Keralys
     
  15. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Chosen One star 7

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    Can you send a copy of that because I didn't see the actual killing in my ROTS dvd. I know it happened but I want to see it for myself:p
     
  16. Master_Keralys

    Master_Keralys VIP star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    *rolls eyes*

    Interestingly, I found that one of the most brutal moments to watch as well, even though it didn't show anything. They got a perfect reaction from that little boy. Heartrending, and literally made me feel ill, as it was no doubt intended to. That was the moment when the extent to which Anakin had fallen came through clearly for the first time (and possibly the only time in RotS).

    - Keralys
     
  17. Darth_Hydra

    Darth_Hydra Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I've always thought what the Vong did with Elegos's skeleton was pretty horrific.
     
  18. Rohniss

    Rohniss Jedi Padawan star 4

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    *yawn*

    child-soldiers.

    Correction: Brain-washed child soldiers who have the capability to become to perfect insurgents... along with the powers of a demi-god.

     
  19. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Chosen One star 7

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  20. BobaFrank

    BobaFrank Jedi Youngling star 5

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    The YV invasion/war.
     
  21. Emperor_Time

    Emperor_Time Jedi Master star 4

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    For me it was what the Sith did in the Great Hyperspace War. [face_thinking]
     
  22. masterskywalker

    masterskywalker Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    We're talking about evil on a grand scale, but what about individual?

    C.S. Lewis pointed out in one of his books, that just because you have 20 people sitting in a bus each with a tooth ache (And let's say that tooth ache is 2 on a scale to 10) does not mean that there is 20X2 *pain* in that bus. In other words, it's not cumulative. Five people with tooth aches doesn't translate to a feeling of 'pain' that is five times worse all together, each set is self contained within the individual. What if someone else on the bus had a broken leg that was a 6 or 8 on the scale? Their agony would be far superior to the ones with a mere tooth ache. It's a matter of perspective.

    That's why I still say Sith mind torture is the worst evil one can perpetuate in Star Wars. I don't think it's *ever* been shown that a *single* person ever recovered from it. We never see it. It's one of those hushed up atrocities no one talks about because everyone wants to forget it. That's far scarier to me than a giant laser vaping a planet.
     
  23. ATimson

    ATimson Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The billions on Alderaan didn't recover from death, either.

    The problem with ignoring the grand scale is that it's the only way to successfully perform any sort of evaluation. Sure, you can compare, one by one, those people vaporized versus a torture victim and conclude that yes, the torture victim died a worse death than each of them. But frankly, does that even mean anything? They're both dead, in the end. And the person who killed billions did a far better job of bringing entropy about than the torturer with their one victim.
     
  24. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    Master Arca.
     
  25. AdmirableAckbar

    AdmirableAckbar Jedi Youngling star 2

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