What would have happened if Palpatine had killed Luke ?

What would happen if Palpatine had killed Luke ?

Personally i think that Vader would engage a duel with him , defeated him and and would take his place as Emperor, his greatest desire until he saw what the emperor was doing to his son.

 

I guess it wouldn't make much difference either way since they'd both be dead in a few minutes... unless Palps actually put his ego aside and took off in another ship. But yes, I can imagine Vader killing Palps while he's distracted with killing Luke.

 

There was time for an escape. It would have either been Luke and Vader, Palpatine and Vader or just Palpatine.

 

If Palpatine had murdered Luke it would have gone like this.

Palpatine:The prophecy was ....

Vader ignites lightsaber and attempts to strike Palpatine

Palpatine uses a weak force push on Vader, since he has used a significant amount of power on Luke

Vader, full of anger and rage, is un shaken by the push. He charges at Palpatine.

Weaponless and weak, Palpatine is quickly struck down by the furious Vader.

Vader therefore does not convert back to the light side. Instead, becoming a the most ruthless and all power ful Emperor ever.

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If Vader killed Palpatine , he wouln´t die in the DSII , Luke (in Ep,VI) didn´t and he had time for his scene wiht the dying Anakin.
He probably had to escape to Coruscant , regroup and destroyed the Rebellion with a single , swift stroke.

 

See, I buy into the EU theory that it was the deaths of Vader and the Emperor that caused the Imperial fleet to lose at Endor, since it's the most satisfying explanation for why the Imps lost their resolve and their organization so quickly. My guess is if Palpy had just killed Luke, the Rebels would have lost that battle, and Vader would have gone into a blind rage. It's clear when Luke and Vader are on the surface that Vader's already feeling quite conflicted and guilty about bringing Luke back with him, and if Luke died because of his actions, I think Vader would have reacted at least as strongly as he did when he learned Padme died because of him. I doubt even Palpatine would have been able to withstand a rage that great.

So, we would likely end up with an Emperor Vader, which I must admit would be rather cool. It would be sad if Vader thought he had no one left in his life, though.

 

does this take place before, or after Vader finds out that he also has a daughter? If its after that scene, Emperor Vader would most likely attempt to corrupt Leia as his apprentice.

 

Vader would not seduce Leia to the dark side because he has no intention of sharing power . Leia would be captured and probably executed, she have not the same relation with her father that Luke had (and for a long time Luke was merely an instrument to Vader), Vader would not hesitate to terminate her if she was a obstacle to his hunger and lust of unlimited power.

 

If Palpatine had killed Luke, Vader would have thrown him down a shaft or something. What Vader did in the movie was simply because Palpy was going to kill Luke. The what if scenario would just happen moments later, with Luke dead and Anakin still (and now completely) on the Dark Side.

Before that Palpatine always managed to have Vader on his side. We know what happens when Vader doesn't like what Palpy does. Only this time it would be pure anger and revenge, instead of compassion.


spaking of the comparison to when he find out that "he killed Padmé"... his rage then didn't amount to much. A bit of crushed equipment, and I think a dent in a wall (or is that just a container?). Is that because he was fresh in the suit? Would an equal outburst 24 years later have a more devastating effect (i.e. bring down (half) the building, as mentioned in the novel)?

 

i think Vader wouldn´t have a burst like in ROTS , he have become a cinical , calculist and wiser man . Spending energy in anger is not is way anymore .Palpatine would be defeated in a duel , where Vader´s superior abilities would defeat the ( now) feeble skills of the emperor.

 

I think he still would have been enraged and broken random stuff - or I just would like to see it. Not sure.

hmm, okay, thinking about it, there's probably enough things pointing towards a more calculated, precise ah expression of anger, like you suggest.

would still be nice to see, though. I think the last time Vader had an Anakin-like outburst was on the Tantive IV, during his "I want them alive!" speech...

 

Erm ... don't Sith need to have anger?

 

I guess it wouldn't make much difference either way since they'd both be dead in a few minutes...

Not necessarily. I read somewhere that the Emperor was using the Force to ?help? his fleet during the space battle. This explains why the battle began to fall apart for the Empire right after the Emperor died. If the Emperor had not died, the Rebels may not have succeeded in destroying the Death Star. Is there any mention of this in the ROTJ novel?

 

the emperor was using battle meditation?

 

That would make for a cool ending.. But I doubt Vader would thrown Palpatine down the shaft unless he was Anakin again. Vader would then die with his son on the DS2.. Leia would take over the legacy of the Jedi then.

 

I think one of two things would obviously happen.

1) Vader would of killed Palpatine as others have said with a great amount of rage.

2) Vader would of continued to serve his master for various reasons as before.

IMO Vader would never let the death of Luke happen, and if it did Vader would take Palps out even if he died as a result.

 

Palpatine would have died. Vader probably would have killed him of but he would have definately died on the second death star. The rebels had destroyed the shield generator and the fighters were making their way to the main reactor. Of course Palpatine was unaware of this because of his arrogance and as Luke said to him "Your over-confidence is your weakness."

 

Vader would have killed Palpatine, and taken his place as emperor. He then would have escaped the Death Star, regrouped and continued to attack the Rebellion. Leia, without Luke to guide her would probably never have become a Jedi thus the Jedi would be extinct.

 

How could Vader strike down Palpatine if his lightsaber was lost in the pit? Even if he used Luke's saber, Palpatine would still have time to use his lightning, and Vader would still be dead.

 

He didn't use a lightsaber in ROTJ in the first place, he tossed him over the side. The reason he got fried then was that Palpatine was still shooting lightning. Had he waited until Luke was dead, Palpatine's guard would have been let down and he could have tossed him over the side of the pit.