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Whats the diff between Turbolaser batteries and turbo laser cannons

Discussion in 'Literature' started by remnantTrooper, Feb 27, 2005.

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  1. remnantTrooper

    remnantTrooper Jedi Youngling

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    well i was wondering this since, i can't really tell the difference.
     
  2. Ashandarei

    Ashandarei Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I'm pretty sure this is right ...

    A battery is a group of cannons (like the quad lasers on the Millenium Falcon, except with turbolasers). For another example of turbolaser batteries, the quad laser cannons you see on the Trade Federation droid controller in TPM are some (although not as powerful as turbolasers in the GCW or post-ROTJ period).
     
  3. remnantTrooper

    remnantTrooper Jedi Youngling

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    i dont mean to b rude but that didnt really make much sense to me
     
  4. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    Someone'll come along with geek wisdom and say different batteries have different barrel numbers: like duel, quad, or 8 barrels to a turbolaser battery. I'm not too conversant with that lore.

    But the bottom line is that turbolaser batteries are the bigger brother to turbolaser cannons.

    If you look at some movie shots, you'll see how big they are, and how many people it takes to crew them. Plus all that generator and cooling equipment. Only warships and specific space/ground installations can support turbo batteries. Turbo cannons can be fit to a mere freighter if need be.

    No relation to the Hornet Interceptor's turbocannon, which according to EGVV, says is a special charged shot between a regular laser and low turbo bolt.

    N/EGVVs also say a "turbolaser" shot is three or four times stronger than a laser shot.

    Further bear in mind that there are unknown grades of cannon. The Falcon's Dennia quad lasers are cruiser types. Thrustships are medium-cruiser-grade cannons, all according to Tyrant's Test.
     
  5. Gladiuus

    Gladiuus Jedi Padawan star 4

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    A cannon is a single gun. A battery is a group of guns. In real life artillery pieces are grouped into batteries. In star wars, a batter refers to a group of guns (cannons) mounted on a ship.

    I think quad laser cannons are different from turbolaser cannons. I was under the impression that turbolasers were primarily for ship to ship or ship to ground bombardment, and laser cannons were mor anti-starfighter.
     
  6. Ashandarei

    Ashandarei Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I merely meant that it was the same basic principle. A "battery" of turbolaser cannons is the same as a battery of regular laser cannons, but on a much larger and more powerful scale. Turbolasers can only be supported by large ships, ones much, much larger than the Millenium Falcon (which has greatly boosted lasers but still doesn't pack the punch of a turbolaser).
     
  7. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    [image=http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/ships/battleships/iowa/ia-1984guns.jpg]

    See that beauty of a ship? She has three batteries of three cannons each, for a total of nine cannons. I'm only talking about the 16"/50 guns, now, not the numerous 5" or phalanxes. :)
     
  8. Knight1192

    Knight1192 Jedi Knight star 6

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    But the bottom line is that turbolaser batteries are the bigger brother to turbolaser cannons.


    Wanna try that one again? Ashandarei properly explained the difference in their first post. A turbolaser battery is made up of several individual turbolaser cannons grouped together. So the only difference is how many cannons in the group. A battery being two or more turbolaser cannons.
     
  9. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    And I wasn't wholly wrong, was I? Such a turbolaser cluster of barrels gives it a stronger punch than something weaker.

    Slick things > my slight mistake
     
  10. Kwenn

    Kwenn Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    The quadlaser cannons on Trade Federation/ Separatist vessels are turbolaser batteries, right? Since they have more than one cannon on a single turret, or does 'battery' just mean a group of single-barrel cannons? And what is that cannon manned by Imperial gunners on the Death Star? Laser, turbo, quad...?
     
  11. Bartichelli

    Bartichelli Jedi Youngling star 1

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    A battery is simply a group of Turbolaser cannons. You might talk about the starboard turbolaser battery (or bow or port) WotC stats for capital ships group turbolasers into batteries - basically something like 10 separate cannons which are all mounted on the same aspect of the ship and are commanded together for easier fire control and to fire salvoes which have a far higher chance of causing considerable damage than indidvidual cannons firing at will. Basically the ship's commander can split his firepower between targets without having to individually assign targets to every turret on the ship.
     
  12. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Why is everyone so confused? Just look at the bloody picture I posted. :p
     
  13. Knight1192

    Knight1192 Jedi Knight star 6

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    The pic you posted, while extremely accurate, can be made confusing by some of the stats I've seen concerning battleships. I've seen the nine 16' cannons on the fast battleships of the North Carolina, South Dakota, and Iowa-classes refered to both as the main armament and the main battery. Most, however, refer to the triple turrets as main armament, and then all appear to refer to the twenty dual-purpose 5' turrets as the secondary batteries or secondary armament. Since they don't say secondary battery singular for the 5' cannons, then I certainly have to agree whole heartedly with you.

    And I wasn't wholly wrong, was I? Such a turbolaser cluster of barrels gives it a stronger punch than something weaker.


    Each individual turbolaser is packing the same amount of punch. The difference is the area that can be covered and the amount of fire that can be placed in that area. If you were to fire six turbolaser cannons from six different ships in the same area, you'd get the same effect as if you fired a battery of six turbolaser cannons on a single ship in that area. You don't actually get a stronger punch, you get greater devestation due to the the greater amount of the same strength being used on the area.
     
  14. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    From my post: I'm only talking about the 16"/50 guns, now, not the numerous 5" or phalanxes.

    Besides, it was meant for the layman who knows nothing about BB-61 through 65. It was just a visual example, with some nice eyecandy to go along with it. I chose that picture since on a battleship, the 16"/50 cannons are easily seen.
     
  15. Knight1192

    Knight1192 Jedi Knight star 6

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    And in my last post I was pointing out that I've seen various sources refer to all three triple turrets as either the main battery, singular, or both the main armament divided into three batteries as you had said. But all sources refer to the 5' turrets as either the secondary armament or the secondary batteries. I was saying that as they all make the distinction of the 5' turrets being batteries in the plural rather than in the singular yet they, the conflicting sources, then go on to make the idea of the 16' turrets confusing as either a a single battery or three batteries. If the sources confligct on whether or not the main armament is a single battery or a group of three batteris but agree that the secondary armament is a series of batteries, then it stands to reason that what you have said is accurate. But someone who has seen the conflicting info may be confused as to whether or not what you said is accurate.

    Oh, and I've picked out three 5' turrets on that pic pretty easily. I could probably pick out a fourth if it weren't for the shadow of <i>Iowa</i>'s superstructure.
     
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