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When Anakin dies is he sorry for killing the Sand People and Separatists?

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  1. Matthew78

    Matthew78 Jedi Knight star 2

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    I know in ROTJ that Anakin loved Luke Skywalker for the first time when he finally saved him and destroyed Darth Sidious and that he was sorry for everything that he had done to Luke and Leia and their friends as well, but did Anakin feel remorse for slaughtering the Sand People when he died or did he still not care because he belived that they deserved it for torturing his mother to death? i dont think that his anger at the Sand People had vanished but for 26-27 years he had other things on his mind and never thought about it much, in the ROTS Visual Dictionary it says that by destroying the Separitists leaders Anakin belives that he is fufilling his destiny as the Chosen One and restoring Peace and Justice to the galaxy, in his eyes he was killing a bunch of ruthless Separitists that were killing people and threatening Padme's life at the time so i doubt that when he died that he was even sorry for murdering them too, even with Count Dooku he killed a ruthless Sith Lord that was killing millions of people and trying to rule the galaxy until Anakin stopped him so he might not have been sorry for killing Dooku either.

    Did Anakin ever feel remorse for any of these things at all or was his sacrifice of dying for his son enough to overcome all of his other sins even if he wasnt remorsefull for them? i cant imagine Anakin being guilty later on, he might have told Qui-Gon,Yoda and Obi-Wan that he did what he felt was the right thing to do and that he wasnt sorry about any of it,he was killing people that he belived to be evil so he didnt need to apologize for it ever, he was still a Jedi Knight when he killed the Sand People and Count Dooku so he couldnt use the Darth Vader defense that he wasnt himself.
     
  2. AnnLouise

    AnnLouise Jedi Youngling star 3

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    At the end of ROTJ and his appearance in Truce at Bakura I get the impression of a general sense of regret more than specific thoughts about each act that led him become a Sith. In renouncing his allegence to the Dark Side, Vader repudiated what he did in it's service.
    Kind of like the Last Rites; you ask forgivness for all your sins, you don't need to specifically list each and every one.
     
  3. voodoopuuduu

    voodoopuuduu Jedi Knight star 5

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    Why worry about the not so innocent Sand people and Separatists when killing the innocent younglings was far, far worse ?
     
  4. Matthew78

    Matthew78 Jedi Knight star 2

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    Because i didnt think about that when i wrote this Topic, but that is a good question, that is the ultimate evil killing children, unless he killed kids that acted like the ones in Gummo a movie from 1996 in which case i wouldnt care but thats because those kids were evil, watch that movie and tell me they werent.
     
  5. Dark_Jedi_Kenobi

    Dark_Jedi_Kenobi Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I agree with voodoo, the Sand People were savage raiders who terrorized the people of Tatooine and killed his mother. While slaughtering them was an act fueled by the dark side, it pales in comparison to the murder of the Jedi and the younglings as well as countless other acts he perpetrated as Darth Vader.

     
  6. AnakinSucks

    AnakinSucks Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I do not think that he was.

    As for the younglings, it was a job that did have to be done (though given the option I would have preferred that he take on the bladesmaster).
     
  7. _Sublime_Skywalker_

    _Sublime_Skywalker_ Jedi Master star 4

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    I believe that when Vader redeems himself, he sees the failures he has made as a jedi in general. He regrets all that he has done to make him what he becomes, I'm guessing that includes slaughtering the seperatists and the tusken raiders.

    Of course I do agree that the Tuskens were savages and needed to be stopped, due to the fact that they kidnapped and tortured not only Shmi but probably countless others. However it was Anakins feelings that initiated the slaughter and therefore should be put aside as a mistake. I mean, he continued to follow the jedi after that.


    The seperatist slaughter I would think he would regret, seeing as by that time the war was pretty much almost done anywaise. A better solution, especially for the beginnings for the galatic empire would be to capture them and put them to trial as an example of the iron fist the Emporer now had. Killing the seperatists and the jedi were a test of Anakins ability in the darkside, to fuel him and make him more fluent in the arts.

    The question as to Anakin regretting it by the end of ROTJ? I'm sure he did, they were both acts that would've been frowned upon by Obi Wan and the rest of the jedi. By ROTJ he sees his wrongs and feels remorse for all he's done to the galaxy.
     
  8. Beautiful_Disaster

    Beautiful_Disaster Force Ghost star 4

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    I agree with you on this. I believe he was remorseful for everything he did in the service of the Dark Side.

    And I can't believe I'm agreeing with someone named "AnakinSucks" but I agree that since the Younglings were to grow up and become Jedi, it made sense for them to die. As terrible as it sounds. They weren't "just kids".

    And I'm certain many will disagree with me so....[face_whistling]
     
  9. roguegirl

    roguegirl Jedi Master star 4

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    there is a point in your theory,but still ,killing kids is evil since they aren't ready to defend themselves(except for one).the situation is the same with the Tusken children.
     
  10. Na-heela

    Na-heela Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Actually I even think he regretted a lot of these things BEFORE he was redeemed. In that (though not canon, I think) story in which he fights a "returned" Maul, Maul asks him what he could hate so much that he'd be able to defend him and Vader says "Myself". Just a suggestion, but it makes things a little clearer.
     
  11. roguegirl

    roguegirl Jedi Master star 4

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    hey,I remembered that>I have a copy of the comicbook.he even acknowledged the fact that Obiwan killed Maul.
     
  12. AnnLouise

    AnnLouise Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Because genocidal rage killing is wrong, no matter how unlikable the victim. It is not less reprehensible based on the moral character of those who are killed.
    It's something to "worry" about because Anakin's actions on Tatooine enable him to think of beings as no more than animals, and makes giving into his darker nature easier and easier.
     
  13. WormieSaber

    WormieSaber Jedi Master star 5

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    Why worry about the not so innocent Sand people and Separatists when killing the innocent younglings was far, far worse ?

    Killing little innocent children is the worst crime, far worse than sand dwellers. I must say, I'm sure Vader did even worse than that. He probably killed people every day as Darth Vader, in command of the Empire.



     
  14. Darth_Bane69

    Darth_Bane69 Jedi Youngling

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    I don't think Anakin was sorry for all the killing he did. He would have killed even more people just to save Luke. Anakin (Darth Vadar) is the true role model that we should all grow to be like.
     
  15. Master_Starwalker

    Master_Starwalker Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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  16. Strilo

    Strilo Manager Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Lord knows that killing the young of ANY species is reprehensible right? Despite the fact that Sandpeople are animals, it is still wrong to slaughter their younglings yes? Explain to me then how it is somehow okay for us to eat veal.
     
  17. Master_Starwalker

    Master_Starwalker Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I'd personally say it's not okay to eat Veal, largely because of how poorly the animals are treated to keep their muscles as underdeveloped as they need to be.
     
  18. Darth_Laudrup

    Darth_Laudrup Jedi Master star 4

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    I love veal. =P~
     
  19. Matthew78

    Matthew78 Jedi Knight star 2

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    Because Veal meat comes from Animals and they are not sentient beings thats why, God created Humans as the most important living beings on this planet, Animals and reptiles,Fish and Insects and other species cannot talk or write books or build huge cities with millions of highly intelligent thinking people living in them,there is no comparison, Animals are here to serve us not the other way around, often when people treat animals too much like people then Humans end up getting attacked by their trusted pets which is foolish, you can love your pets but never make them equals because they are not civilized beings and revert to primal behavior in certain situations.
     
  20. Amon_Amarth

    Amon_Amarth Force Ghost star 6

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    Animals are here to serve us?!??!? Dude, homo sapiens *is* an animal in case you didn't know.
    Other species and phylia have been here long before us and will be after man will have become extinct. Nobody is serving anyone, it's the simple survival of the fittest out there. If you are confronted by a hungry lion, I don't think he would be thinking aboutserveing you, would he. Being the current most intelligent specie on the planet does not make man the most important. And building huge cities really got us far, didn't it?! With the pollution and all, we are destroying our own planet!


    But to get back to the Anakin topic, it is true that he had commited terrible artrocities during his fall to the Dark Side and his time as a Dark Lord. Unforgivable things. However, even though is responsible, he was sorry for all of it, in the end, dying on Luke's arms on the Death Star in Endor's orbit. He showed remorse and that is the question here. Luke was right about him for there was still good left in Vader/Anakin. Also, Anakin showed regret over what he has done in the Tusken Camp, not when he was dying, but right after he had returned from the Camp. Look into AOTC novelisation, he says: "I'm sorry. I'm so sorry." PG 285 (HC), I just checked. So in the Sand People case, he was sorry even before he died.
     
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