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When did Luke learn the garbage chute was magnetically sealed?

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by skyysoblue, Oct 25, 2005.

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  1. skyysoblue

    skyysoblue Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Am I the only one who has trouble with the notion that Luke was able to jump into the garbage chute, compose himself, fire his weapon all in the time between when he jumped down and Han followed?
     
  2. R4P17DC

    R4P17DC Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Did you ever think that Leia or Chewie told him before...Well, most likely Leia.o_O
     
  3. acidfireeyes

    acidfireeyes Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I think Luke specifically said he had already tried and it was magnetically sealed. Maybe when he fell in his gun went off and thats how he knew.
     
  4. Dark_Jedi_Kenobi

    Dark_Jedi_Kenobi Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    They most likely had already tried blasting it and probably almost shot eachother so they knew that it had to be sealed magnetically.
     
  5. _Sublime_Skywalker_

    _Sublime_Skywalker_ Jedi Master star 4

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    Leia probably knew because she had been kept captive on the Death Star for a little while now,or maybe her,chewie or Luke had already fired their blaster by then. Doesn't Luke say ''Its no use,we already tried that. Its magnetically sealed.'' or something to those lines?

    If not,Maybe Chewie knew because he was the first one down [I think,my memory of ANH is kinda shady right now,its been a few weeks..] and he's the technical expert,he could probably tell by the doors and walls.

     
  6. fettmaster39

    fettmaster39 Jedi Master star 3

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    I think the real question here is,:
    Should George Lucas add a scene in ANH explaining how Luke
    knew it was magnitically sealed using CGI?
     
  7. JMaster Luke

    JMaster Luke Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    That scene bothers me too. Cuz luke jumps about 5 sec before han. And as you can tell by han. It took him alittle over 5 seconds to land. stand up and fire. then it took the blaster like antoher 5 seconds to stop bouncing off the walls.

    So WHEN did luke have time to do all that. But ignoring that. It bothers me how pissed luke gets at han. OBVIOUSLY han is gonna try to shoot the door. So if luke tried already why didn't he tell Han not to try.

    And why get so pissed at han, he doesn't know you tried already since you didn't tell him.
     
  8. TwiLekJedi

    TwiLekJedi Pretty Ex-Mod star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    maybe Han had a little 15 extra seconds side adventure in the chute that's explained in some obscure Marvel comics


    I would try to explain it by saying movies are rarely in real time, but sadly it doesn't leave much out between Luke jumping and Han.
    But still, I don't think you can count the seconds and expect everything to be that precise.


    or maybe Leia told him to try to shoot the door as soon as he landed. This way it takes him not as long as Han


    it's more like 7 seconds anyway
     
  9. lyle990

    lyle990 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Perhaps it went like this - Luke landed a little closer to the door, got up and walked over to the door and tried the handle (or switch) whatever to open it and got a "Magnetically Sealed" message or something. Or possibly he moved towards the door and saw a visual display or something indicating the door was sealed, which would take less time than for him to go all the way to the door and actually touch it. Immediately after he saw the message (or whateveer), Han lands, gripes a bit, then starts blasting away. Han did not make any effort to take a good look at the door before firing, he just stood up, aimed, and shot. If I remember correctly, there are 10 seconds or so after Han lands where the camera does not spend much time on Luke, and Luke is standing fairly close to the door when he says "No, Wait!" right before Han fires. So, while the timing is still pretty short, I believe that Luke would have had time to check the door before Han fired.

    After all, all Luke says is that he already tried it. He doesn't say how he tried it.
     
  10. DarthButt

    DarthButt Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Absolutely! My thoughts exactly. I say we petition for this right away. :p
     
  11. SLAVE2

    SLAVE2 Jedi Knight star 5

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    I think the drop into the trash compactor wasn't straight down from the cell block as it may appear (otherwise Stormtroopers could just drop explosives down there or something), and a little more time elapsed than we see.

    That or Luke used his Force powers to "see things before they happen" and knew they were magnetically sealed 8-}
     
  12. Greedo_forever

    Greedo_forever Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Actually, doesn't Luke yell at Han:

    "I've already tried that- it's magnetically sealed!!"

    Isn't that correct?

    EDIT: oops- someone already said this ^^^ :oops:
     
  13. skyysoblue

    skyysoblue Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Some comments on the posts:

    Yes, it was totally unfair for both Luke and Leia to yell at Han since there was really no way of knowing in the four to seven seconds (perhaps someone should time it) that Luke already learned it was magnetically sealed.

    Someone came up with another thought, that Luke tested the door through means other than firing upon it. Perhaps he actually did have his light saber that his father gave him and tried using it to cut the door open.

    I was actually amazed that they could all fall 10-20 feet into a pile of junk and nobody was hurt.
     
  14. Siths_Revenge

    Siths_Revenge Jedi Youngling star 7

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    Too bad Luke didn't have his lightsaber, he could have sliced through the door like Qui Gon did in TPM.
     
  15. acidfireeyes

    acidfireeyes Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I think Luke did have his lightsaber.
     
  16. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    If Luke had tried a control button on the door he would have had to land, walk over to the door, try it, relize it's magnetically sealed, then move far away from the door because Han landed between the door and Luke. Luke must have shot at it right from where he landed and dodged a few ricochets. The Han lands between the two. This explains why Luke yelled rather anxiously ,"No wait!", just before Han fires.
     
  17. sithrules70

    sithrules70 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    after han tries to blast the door luke tells him that they already tried that so he had alreay tried to blast the door and thas why he knew it was sealed.
     
  18. BrideofVader

    BrideofVader Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Let's not forget that the sense of time in Star Wars is dramatically understated. What seems like 5 seconds on Star Wars may, in fact, be 5 minutes. A half hour on Dagobah might seem like a few days, but in reality is suppose to be a couple of months. Hyperspace travel... a few minutes? a few hours? an all day trip? There's no way to tell, and apparently GL didn't think the sense of passage of time was all that important. (A flaw repeated in the PT too.) We are forced to either fill in the blanks for him, or accept that it took Luke 5 seconds to shoot the door and have the blaster shot ricochet around the metal garbage chute before Han landed with a kersplash.
     
  19. emporergerner

    emporergerner Jedi Padawan star 4

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    It only takes a second to fire a blaster.




    Emporer Gerner Dark Lord of the Sith




     
  20. skyysoblue

    skyysoblue Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I watched movie again:

    It took three seconds for Han to follow Luke down garbage shute, and 2econds for his blaster shot to land safely.
     
  21. Amon_Amarth

    Amon_Amarth Force Ghost star 6

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    Too bad Luke didn't have his lightsaber, he could have sliced through the door like Qui Gon did in TPM.

    Hehe, he did have a lightsaber, but he probably didn't watch TPM. :p
     
  22. That_Wascally_Droid

    That_Wascally_Droid Jedi Knight star 6

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    Luke lands, shoots, blast ricochettes.
    Han lands, complains (or whines depending how you choose to view any character who ever has a complaint), gets out his gun, and aims.

    LUKE: No, wait!

    See? They did try to warn Han. But, Han doesn't listen.

    LUKE: Would you forget it!? I've already tried it, it's magnetically sealed!

    "It" heavily implies the "it" that Han just tried himself. Not, "I already tried opening the door!"

    However, Luke could've been smart (or lucky) and had his blaster's power lower than Han's and dropped, fired, and gave up knowing it was magnetically sealed.
     
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