When Did Obi And Yoda Find Out About Anakin's Marriage?.

when did obi-wan and yoda find out about anakin's marriage to padme?. if they have found out sooner they would have given him a choice stay with padme and leave the jedi order or divorce her. frankly i think the jedi were silly to forbid marriage. love doesn't lead to the dark side. nomi sunrider was married and she never fell although she did give into her anger twice(when she killed the thugs and when she stripped ulic of the force). but she calmed down.

 

He may not have been expelled from the order. Other Jedi married and werent expelled.
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http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jedi

 

I don't know if Obi-Wan and Yoda ever realized that Anakin and Padme were married. But they found out about the romance when Obi-Wan realized that Padme was pregnant with Anakin's child/children.

 

Regarding how much Obi-Wan - and Yoda - knew about Anakin and Padme's relationship, nothing about their behavior toward Anakin, at least as far as I'm concerned, indicates any ignorance on that front; Obi-Wan, certainly, behaves - particularly toward the end of RoTS - as if he is fully aware of the relationship - and its true nature - but has chosen to let his friend and former Padawan make his own decisions, even if said decisions go against the Jedi Code (which demonstrates a turnaround from his behavior in AoTC, when he's actively cautioning Anakin about letting his thoughts concerning Padme get in the way of his responsibilities to the Order). As for Yoda, the way he acts when Anakin talks to him about his nightmares and concerns about Padme strikes me very much as the behavior of a parent or mentor who knows that a secret is being kept from them, but is going to give the secret-keeper the opportunity to divulge said secret on their own without prying or sparking a confrontation. It's never said, but I've always been under the assumption that Yoda was fully aware of the exact nature of Anakin's secret, but, as I've said, had chosen to let him make the decision on whether or not to reveal that secret.

 

I think I've pointed out somewere before that Yoda and Obi-Wan might have been
giving Anakin leeway because he was the "Chosen One", and that, perhaps, they
felt the normal rules didn't apply. Then again, Palpatine is pulling his bag of
tricks right unders their noses, and they don't seem to be able to figure that
one out, either. It's also possible that they're just, well...dumb.


Seriously; it's just another of Mr. Lucas's open-ended plot devices to keep the
the dramatic tension high.

 

If they ever found out about the marriage..I don't know? But they were both clearly aware of Anakins feelings from an early stage, Maybe sending Anakin to Naboo to protect Padme was a test..to see if Anakin's training had enabled him to seperate romantic love from compassionate duty. Either way, they were playing with fire.

 

I've always thought that they knew, that they found out sometime in the three years between AOTC and ROTS, but as people have already said, they let Anakin make his own decisions. I don't know that entering into a forbidden marriage is reason in and of itself to get expelled from the Order. Only negligence of duties, such as leaving the fight with Dooku in order to rescue Padme, might be grounds for expulsion, but not the relationship or marriage itself.

I don't think Anakin ever told them he was married, I think they figured it out, and my guess would be that sometime during the years between AOTC and ROTS, Obi-Wan probably confronted Anakin and told him that he knew. Neither of them act surprised at the fact that Padme is pregnant with Anakin's children. Heck, even Bail Organa didn't seem all that surprised, only surprised that she was carrying twins. Granted I haven't seen ROTS in awhile and I haven't seen the Clone Wars series at all, but that's how I remember it.

 

I think in that scene on Coruscant when Obi-Wan is talking to Padme in ROTS, is where he learns that she is carrying the offspring of Anakin. I mean after spending 10+ years with he can probably sense Anakin's presence anywhere, and since they are Ani's kids he probably sensed Anakin inside of Padme. (Not that way you pervs)

 

What I always thought it was weird was that Obi-0Wan went over to Padme's apartment to see how Anakin was doing!

 

IIRC, the ROTS novel makes it clear that Obi-Wan Kenobi knew that Anakin and Padme had a romantic relationship, but that it was simply something neither of them ever brought up in conversation. Really, Kenobi would have to have been incredibly dumb not to have figured it out fairly early on. (not that they were married, but that they were at least an item)

I don't know if that means that Kenobi ever figured out they were legally married, but, he certainly knew they were sleeping together.

 

Well when Padme lands on Mustafar, she tells Anakin that Obi-Wan now knows about them. Which reveals to the audience that Obi-Wan didn't know about them prior.

 

It could just mean that Padme and Anakin didn't know that Obi-Wan already knew.

 

I think when Anakin tells Obi-Wan that he'd "rather dream of Padme" at the beginning of AOTC, Obi-Wan strongly suspects something between them. This is confirmed when Obi-Wan confides in Captain Tanaka that he's afraid of him doing something rash when Anakin and Padme arrive on Naboo. Then Obi-Wan asks Padme if Anakin is the father of her child after Anakin becomes Vader, and he says, "I'm so sorry." This is likely when he knew for sure.

 

Anakin never even bothered pretending he wasn't in love with Padme, not around Obi-Wan anyway. Obi-Wan would have had to be really blind or really stupid not to know that much. As far as whether he knew they had gotten married, that's another question.

 

Well as Darth_Davi already pointed out, Obi-Wan knew about their relationship prior when visited Padme's apartment looking for Anakin.

 

Like someone said before, the ROTS shows that Obi-Wan knew there was something between Anakin and Padme but never talked about it with him. I don't remember if it said why did kept his mouth shut. IIRC, it didn't say that Yoda knew about the relationship. When Anakin talked to him about the vision, Yoda knew he was keeping a secret but didn't probe into what it was.

 

I'm sure Anakin disappearing all of the time and coming back with a big smile on his face and hickeys all over his neck might have tipped off Obi-Wan . In the Clone Wars episode "Senate Spy," Yoda seemed to take perverse pleasure in dropping hints about Padmé's ex right in front of Anakin.

--MissPadme

 

At the end of AOTC's when Count Dooku makes his escape, Padme runs over to embrace Anakin. Yoda and Obi wan were both there and seen that.
I believe Yoda may have suspected something, but it was well down his priority list. Obi wan defintely knew they were an item. But both Yoda and Obi wan probably thought it would be addressed once the clone wars ended and the dust had settled.
Anakin may then have been expelled from the Jedi order for having such a relationship.

 

does not equal

So like I said, "Padme and Anakin didn't know that Obi-Wan already knew". Padme realized when Obi-Wan said that to her at her apartment, and Anakin realized when Padme told him about that. But Obi-Wan knew for quite a while before that.

 

I guess what I'm trying to say is, that Obi-Wan showing up at Padme's apartment to find Anakin, shows that Padme and Anakin and Obi Wan are all in the know of their relationship. Later on in the movie Padme tells Anakin that Obi-Wan knows, where he didn't know is a bit rediculous when prior they all knew, because hey Obi-Wan came over to her apartment to find Anakin, because that's where he and Padme have been shacking up. So Obi-Wan knowing that Anakin and Padme have been shacking up earlier in the movie, later Padme saying Obi-Wan knows now is not only a continuity flaw, but doesn't make sense, and contradicts the earlier scene that Obi-Wan came over to her apartment to look for Anakin.

 

I don't know if Obi-Wan knew, but I'm sure he had his suspicions.

 

When Obi-Wan visited Padme to try and find Anakin now that he had gone to the Dark Side, it was Padme's defiance that gave Obi-Wan a spark in his head, plus her physical shape pretty much spat out "I'm pregnant, guess who the daddy is?" It was there that Obi-Wan realized that Anakin was the father, and that he and Padme had some risky business going on ("I'm so sorry"). Also, she just stands there saying nothing, which further implies everything Obi just said. Later, as Padme goes to Mustafar to find Anakin, she tells Anakin that Obi-Wan knows. Why? Because she feels she must, although I'm sure Anakin had his suspicions that Obi-Wan knew from some time. Not to mention this is the first time they have seen each other in a few hours, so obviously this is all news between them. I don't know where you guys are getting at with a continuity flaw, it seems obvious to me.

 

I new, so I apologize if I offend. I think I can add some leverage to this discussion. While the overall conceptual understanding of Anakin/Padme marriage/children could be bolstered and who knew or not, IMHO I think there is a STRONG biological reason why the echelon of Jedi were against it, altogether... It has something to do with the Force Sensitivity. If you "breed" Force Sensitives, it is thought that possibly they could create children with no Force Powers, which is highly unlikely. Or you could create children that are inherently of the Dark Side of the Force--essentially Human Sith... While Padme herself did not have Force Sensitivity, she did have Intuitiveness-empathy, which is a part of The Force, but a weak compared to Jedi Younglings.

I know it is wrong for me, but I am breaking Jedi Code here: I wrote a story about Anakin and Padme marriage and children from a scientific viewpoint and I would appreciate anyone's honest feedback. I call it The Balance In The Force and there are 10 parts.

 

In my humble opinion this is something Lucas should have dove further into.

He should have made an example out of Anakin and let him be expelled. That would further his hatered of the Jedi. He could have still had Padme die and make it look like the Jedi did it when in fact it was Anakin's choice that killed her. I think that would have worked much better.

 

I don't think Obi-wan knew for sure that Anakin was seeing Padme until the end of Ep.III, but I think he definetly suspected, based on little comments in the Prequel-era novels. For example in Labyrinth of Evil, Anakin is eager to return to Courasant and Obi-wan teasingly asks, "there's a girl, isn't there?" In the beginning of the Ep.II novel, Anakin their ship out of hyperspace too close to Courascant, potentially risking a collision because he has heard the Padme has returned from Naboo. Obi-wan scolds him, but I think he knows that Anakin is too skilled a pilot to have done this accidentally.