When do the Jedi stop wearing their Armor?

In the Clone Wars movie and TV series the Jedi Knights and Masters except for Yoda wear republic armor over their Jedi robes to help them in combat by preventing and reducing injuries, yet both Anakin and Obi-Wan and the other jedi stop wearing their armor before LOE and ROTS happen, when did the jedi quit wearing their armor during the Clone Wars and why?

I guess they realized that it wasnt effective and got rid of it, or when dueling with dark jedi like Sora Bulq and Asajj Ventress it would have weighed them down and reduced their mobility and that could be a probelm, it also wouldnt stop a lightsaber strike either.

Also why didnt the jedi under Luke Skywalkers New Jedi Order wear jedi armor? this would have helped when fighting against the Yuuzhan Vong and enabled them to be more protected in battle against them, as the armor would have reduced injuries from their weapons.

I do like how Anakins armor forshadows his turn to the dark side of the force and his wearing armor as Darth Vader, it makes him look more imposing and menacing.

 

It's pretty obvious from the various Clone Wars novels, comics, games and tv show that the Jedi didn't always wear armor all the time.

 

They probably started wearing it at some point to protect against flak and shrapnel, that's about all the armour is good for anyway.

 

OOU, it's of course artistic license, with the original CW cartoon going for cool visuals and Lucas obviously not intending the Jedi to wear armour. As always with artistic license, it's debateable whether it needs to be incorporated into EU canon, even if it's become such a large factor with TCW and most merchandise now having armoured Jedi. On the same note, why did all the Jedi change their lightsaber colours to blue and green (with the exception of Mace, who changed away from blue)?

And as you brought up the Vong war, didn't the Jedi have these self-healing armour suits? I think they were mentioned in SBS, made from the same material as the YVH droids.

 

I think there was a special flightsuit or something in the NJO, yeah. I forget what they called it, though.

As for the Clone Wars: as others have already said, it's just an OOU thing to do with making them look cooler.

If you need an IU reason, I suppose its possible to make up something about how ROTS starts with them in their starfighters--where having clunky armour on might make it harder to move about inside the already cramped cockpit--and after the Battle of Coruscant that's basically the Clone Wars done, short of assassinating Grievous... which as an assassination makes it a duel, where, again, wearing armour may not be preferable if it restricts mobility.

Admittedly, it would have been rather cool to have seen them in their armour sets for the first part of the film. I suppose it's a joint question of (i) the idea of the armour sets only came out with the original cartoon series, so the concept artists for ROTS may not have thought of it at the time of filming since it was the cartoonists who used their concept art, not ROTS's concept artists using the cartoon, and (ii) in real life they might have looked a bit cumbersome and naff.

 

Can honestly imagine if they'd put Obi-Wan in his armor like in CW or TCW??? You'd just have Ewan's head composited on a CGI body like any scene with an unhelmed clone trooper. Do you recall how horrible Commander Cody actually looks without his helmet in ROTS?

 

I would just assume that none of the situations shown in RotS required armour.

 

What about Obi-Wan being slapped around by General Grievious during their fight? the armor would have helped him there.

 

It'd probably also have slowed him down when Grievous was going all sawblade on him, though.

 

As for the Jedi not wearing armor in RotS, keep in mind that Lucasfilm didn't actually make any armor; the clones were all CGI.

 

ROTS still showed Ki-Adi leading an assault, and Luminara and Aayla walking on battlefields. OK, Aayla didn't cover her body with armour in TCW either, and Luminara still wore her simple robes. Thinking about it, which Jedi actually wear armour? Do Plo Koon and Kit Fisto upgrade their robes to armour?

Plus: TCW doesn't show the Jedi without their armour in dueling contexts, or during their spare time - because that would mean another CG model. So the dynamic duo still sports their armour when travelling to Iego.

It's really hard to explain it IU, as there is no reason except OOU design reasons.

 

Didn't one book have them wear it to show solidarity with the troops? I'm not sure which one though.

 

How cool a tie-in in ROTS if Anakin and Obi-Wan were in armor when they boarded Dooku's ship. Then found Palpatine, he says, "aren't you a little small to be a clonetrooper", then they took off helmets and said, "It's me, Anakin Skywalker, I'm here to rescue you"

Only if Palps had a white robe type outfit, no bra, and buns in the hair... classic Sith evilness in hiding.

 

I think in one of the early interviews for the series it was said that we would see the Jedi armor phased out, as well as the introduction of phase 2 clone armor. My money is on it happening at the same time - possibly the third season or so.

 

Interesting...

If it is actually fully phased out (i.e. not merely a coincidence it isn't in ROTS) one starts to wonder: did Palpatine push for it to be phased out intentionally?

 

Well, I'm sure they'll phase it out, but it'll probably be something like "Obi-Wan catches his armor on a hatrack in this episode, so no Jedi wear armor anymore." Since it's kind of hard to explain how, once having armor, they would decide "The hell with this stuff," other than "After six months of battling in armor, I've decided today that it's too restrictive due to the one time I had to weasel through the crawlspace to escape General Grievous."

 

So far we've only ever seen Obi-Wan in a fully decked out set of armor. Actually, Seasee Tiin is sporting a full get-up during the assault on Coruscant on Clone Wars volume 2. Most of the Jedi characters we see are only wearing vambraces or boots of some sort. Jedi robes are already lined with a sort of light armor, from what I understand.

 

I could see the Jedi turning away from it simply because they realize how militaristic it makes them look. Yes, possibly with Palpatine's subtle urging, he notes that people are starting to view the Jedi with more distrust as they look like military leaders instead of peacekeepers, so there's a "whiplash" effect and suddenly it's back to the traditional robes.

Or it wouldn't even need Palpatine's presence at all. Yoda or Mace or some other tradition-minded Council member might simply point out the image problems the armor potentially creates, and it just rolls downhill from there.

I mean, so far have we seen the Jedi's armor actually do anything to protect them? Their primary defenses still seem to be "deflect with lightsaber and push away with the Force." Armor doesn't really help with that.

 

Maybe in a thrilling, continuity-minded episode of The Clone Wars in which Ashoka saves the day, Anakin and Obi-Wan uncover the evil Separatist plot at the Kuat factory that churns out the Jedi's armour on Zonama Sekot, a technologically advanced planet in the Outer Rim.

 

That, Uli, was classic.

 

after the Ruusan Reformation as well so this isn't a "new" thing they stopped wearing armor back then too when the Jedi had to demilitarize so maybe the Jedi really are ordered to stop wearing it by the chancelor

 

Many students in the NJO wore light armor, at least initially. By the time we get to the DNT we get a surprisingly large number of Jedi wearing robes again, and even more in LotF/FotJ. I guess that just goes with the recent OJOification of the NJO.

 

Hey, tradition is important and anyone that ever thought Luke would break with that apparently wasn't paying attention to ROTJ.

 

In one of the Republic Commando novels (I think it was Triple-Zero, but it might have been True Colors; it was BEFORE Jusik left the order), Bardan Jusik pointed out how some Jedi, like Obi-Wan, wore armor. Obi-Wan was the only one he mentioned by name. I think that makes it clear that most Jedi, in most situations, eschewed armor in favor of robes.

Some Jedi choose to wear armor (Obi-Wan, Anakin), some choose to wear robes (Luminara, Ki-Adi-Mundi), some choose to wear much less (Aayla Secura, Ahsoka Tano), sometimes we're glad they wear less (Aayla Secura)