Where did all the Republic's ships, weapons, etc. come from?

We all know that Palpatine secretly ordered the Clone Army from the Kaminoans, probably through Dooku posing as Sifo Dyas; but where all of their heavy equipment come from? I accept that their small arms and armor were supplied by the Kaminoans, but Star Destroyers, troop transports, tanks and the like? The Death Star took 20 years to build, so these things couldn't have been built over night.

So where does all that costly, super-advanced stuff come from?

 

They were built overnight.

lol, j/k. They hired some other company to build them. Look up the entry for Acclamator on Wikipedia.

 

I would assume the Republic all ready had a fleet set up. Since it's a Government they need some sort of Defense. The Republic, under the leadership of Palpatine, put many resources into producing Fleets and ships. Which began when Dooku started the Separatists.

The Attack Cruisers and Republic Assault Ships, which would later become the Star Destroyers were produced by the Kuat Drive Yards. You must remember that the Separatists had been an Organization since a few years before Attack Of The Clones.

Giving Palpatine enough time to gather Republic resources and build a fleet.

 

A branch of KDY had a branch on a planet near Kamino, Rothana Heavy Engineering. They were contracted to create most of the war machines for the clones.


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Kuat Drive Yards, Sienar Fleet Systems, Rothana Heavy Engineering, and Incom all helped provide the Galactic Republic with starships, transports, and equipment. The Acclamators were adequate in the beginning conflicts during the Clone Wars however, they weren't dedicated destroyers like the Venator-class and the Imperial-class.

 

That explains who built them, but not who ordered them in advance (or how fast they were built if not ordered in advance). Does the EU explain this? Did Palpatine and Dooku do something similar as with the Clones? If so, who discovered the ships and equipment the way Obi Wan found the Clones? It had to be secret if the Senate had to authorize raising an army, they would naturally have to authorize the expenditures necessary for all this stuff.

 

As I understand it, the first sets of weapons and equipment we see put to use on Geonosis all came from the same contract as the Clones. The Kaminoans took an order for Clonetroopers as well as the equipment and weapons to supply the army. They obviously didn't build all that themselves (having outsourced to the compaines others listed above) but the army and it's equipment were all one order discovered by Obi-wan and first put into action by Yoda.

 

Clearly Yoda stopped at the Heavy Engineering store before he went to Kamino. Then he used his Force Powers to move fly the entire fleet of ships across the galaxy back to Kamino. Sifo Dyas made sure that Tank downloaded a pilot program into all of the clones so they knew exactly how to work all of the ships. So at that point all that was left was for "General Yoda" to use all of his 900 years of expertise in combat tactics and stragey to lead 500,000 clones slaves into battle.

Oh yeah and he did all that in about 10 minutes.

 

Note in AotC, when Obi-Wan looks out at the clone parade ground, they're marching around and onto Acclamator-class cruisers. Also, Inside the Worlds of AotC shows simulated terrain and battlefields within the Kamino clone complex, where AT-TEs are used in training. The clones already have knowledge enough to pilot their ships, which are likely already stationed on Kamino. Rothana only built the vessels; why would they keep them onplanet after selling them to the Kaminoans?

 

Good point. It's too bad the Jedi Council did not check Sifo-Dyas' credit card receipts. He was running up quite a tab!

 

he probably had like a Trillion credits tacked on to hs tab.

but Seriously, how did they keep it a secret from the Republic? surely they had to get the Metal and other materials to build these War Machines from somewhere.

 

Kwenn

Note in AotC, when Obi-Wan looks out at the clone parade ground, they're marching around and onto Acclamator-class cruisers

Really? If accurate, that helps ALOT with setting up the idea that they come with armaments rather than just showing up with all this crap on Geonosis.

Are you sure? I've never noticed it.

 

Dude, it's like a car dealership bro. You don't go into a Ford dealership and say "Wow, where did all these trucks come from?" That's what the suppliers do. They build ships and then sell them to whoever wants to buy them. They all don't have to be specially ordered.

 

The ships and gear were ordered at the same time. Some stuff was already built to begin with, as part of a small defense force. As the galaxy began to move towards war, the various shipyards began cranking out newer and more powerful ships. Various weapons makers would also put out upgraded blasters and Clonetrooper gear.

 

You have to assume that at least some of those war machines had been on Kamino. The clones were trained in all different types of combat situations. If the heavy weapons/cruiser training consisted of "And you will even fly ships with guns!" the clones would have been pretty ill prepared for the Geonosis conflict. "Learn to fly this thing straight you must!" - Yoda to Clonetrooper

Carnage

 

Maybe they had simulators or something. You know that scene with the clones sitting at those terminals....they had to have been doing something useful.

 

Palpatine used funds from Iran-Contra to build all the ships. And when Bail Organa found out about it, he called for a special prosecutor to investigate. That is why The Emperor dissolved the Senate in ANH, he was afraid of getting impeached.

 

I had assumed that all the ships, guns and other equipment came with the clone order. I thought this because since Kaminoans were the ones that trained the clones with combat programs, they were the ones that somehow provided the equipment whether they manufactured them or they outsourced the necessary equipment and armaments for the clones to use.

It just seems that this would make more sense if the Kaminoans were responsible for creating the clones, training them and providing the equipment. It makes more sense that they provide the ships, guns and other equipment that corresponded with their training programs.

The other reason this makes more sense is when I think of Yoda going to pick up the clones. Did Yoda go to Kamino with the ships and other equipment, or were the ships already on Kamino? Again it makes more sense the ships and weapons were already provided and there, because how would Yoda know how much equipment to bring in relation to the number of clones he would take to Geonosis.

I just like to believe that as part of the deal with the Kaminoans to create clones and train them, they also provided all the equipment needed for them in combat.


Darth Sin!

 

I have to absolutely refuse to believe that an army would be ready for a campaign that is as large and intense as Geonosis only from using simulators. I would not doubt the MAJORITY of the training was simulators, but it cannot replace the experience of the real thing. "Good against remotes is one thing, good against the living....that's another story."

I did consider this fact when I was writing my last response and it is a pretty good explanation, but I really think they need to have actually flown the craft/used the weapons. Simulators, no matter how advanced, can't really accomadate for every little unpercieved thing that accompanies an actual flight or battle.

Carnage

 

Okay....so maybe the clones went off-world to train with the gunships and Acclamators?

 

Yeah that Syfo Dias sure was one wacky Jedi Master.

 

Was Sluis Van a shipyard in the days of Old Republic, too?

 

Palpatine used funds from Iran-Contra to build all the ships. And when Bail Organa found out about it, he called for a special prosecutor to investigate. That is why The Emperor dissolved the Senate in ANH, he was afraid of getting impeached.

I'm going with this answer.
Now the only question is if a Death Star counts as a Weapon of Mass Destruction...

Actually I think Carnage makes a good point. Obviously the Kaminoans had something to train the clones with besides simulators. They had armor and blasters afterall. It's not too large of a step to assume they had what we at least saw on Geonosis.

LAMA SU: Well. Here's yer clones.
OBI-WAN: Why are they naked?
LAMA SU: What? You want us to cloth them? That'll be another million republic credits.
OBI-WAN: Ugh. Nevermind. Just load them onto the ship.
LAMA SU: Ship?
OBI-WAN: I hate you. So much.

Or, you have the wiki answer which comes directly from the EU if that suits your fancy.

 

Still laughing, That_Wascally_Droid

Green_Destiny_Sword
Good point. It's too bad the Jedi Council did not check Sifo-Dyas' credit card receipts. He was running up quite a tab!

Ah money, the most powerful force in the world and it doesn't even really exist!

 

Oh god. That's funny. What's worse is when I first read it I though it was "OBI-WAN: Why are YOU Naked?" I got a twisted picture of a naked Kaminoan in my head.

Carnage