Where is Mustafar?

I was simply wondering where it was on a galaxy map, as the only ones i have are in the front of the NJO books, and dont include it. Since its a pretty significant planet, i would think they would include it somewhere

 

I'm sure a new map will be forthcoming, with Mygeeto, Salucemai, Mustafar, Utapau, Felucia and all the other ROTS planets charted. For now, be happy with the knowledge that it's "in the Outer Rim," as most new planets in SW seem to be.

 

I got a general idea of where Mustafar and Polis Massa might be from info in the Visual Dictionary. It implied that Polis Massa could not be too far from Subterrel Sector, which would encompass the planet of Subterrel, and is not far from Kamino or Rishi. Mustafar cannot be too far from Polis Massa either, since it was the closest medical facility. Thanks to Carty for creating this map on which I attempted to determine where the other planets were and the characters various travels at the end of Episode III.

http://img256.echo.cx/img256/8349/outerrim27sc.jpg

 

Boy I hope a new map comes out with all those planets. I get asked weekly where they are, and I know as much as anybody else, not much.

 

Mustafar cannot be too far from Polis Massa either, since it was the closest medical facility.

How do we know it is the closest facility?
Yoda and Bail got there first... plus there might be quite a few other facilities that could have worked, but Polis Massa might have been one that wouldn't rat out Yoda and Obi-wan to the Empire. It might have been the closest facility that was safe for Yoda and Obi-wan to go to.

makes you wonder... did Palpatine know that Bail Organa had helped Yoda and Obi-wan?
-- when Mas Amedda calls Bail on the Tantive IV and tells him of the special session of the senate, Yoda and Obi-wan are sitting right next to Bail.. i guess Bail only sent back a voice reply and not a video reply (or a really-close up video reply)
-- Bail's ship leaves Coruscant after Temple destruction.
-- Bail's ship comes back. Special session of the senate. Yoda fights Palpatine and escapes.
-- Bail's ship leaves Coruscant.
-- Padme last seen on Mustafar with Obi-wan Kenobi.
-- Bail's ship ends up on Naboo with Padme's body.

from the last two points, it seems likely that somehow Obi-wan and Bail met up to pass Padme over to Bail.

how much would Palpatine be able to figure out... would the Naboo spaceport authority not tell him that the Tantive IV had landed prior to the announcement of Padme's funeral?

 

Polis Massa ought to be on the other side of Dagobah from Sluis Van, Yoda got to the slimy mudhole by using an escape pod from a grain freighter heading there. Mustafar should also be in the general vicinity, they had a dying pregnant chick and couldn't go far.

 

It's gotta be on a major hyperlane, given the incredibly short amount of time it takes to get from there to Coruscant.

 

I heared that Polis Massa is pretty close to Alderaan...

 

Seems we're throwing around alot of random nonsense now. And what is your source?

 

I was thinking this when I first saw the movie too. He's talking on a video phone with two Jedi right next to him, but since Mas Amedda never said anything I just figured he must have been responding as voice only.

 

I'd assume it's close to Coruscant because everyone seemed to get there really quick. But we should note that's "movie time." it could actually be a very long trip but Sidious sensed Obi-Wan was on his way to deal with Anakin before they actually fought (this would mean that Obi-Wan isn't actually fighting Anakin as the same time Yoda is going against Palps; those scenes are just arranged in that way for dramatic tension). But Palpatine is only a few hours behind Obi-Wan (and probably has a faster ship).

I would also guess Obi-Wan is just a few hours behind Anakin, since I doubt the newest Sith would just sit around doing nothing on mustafar once he killed all the Seps. But here we run into some "time issues" as we had Anakin phoning home to tell Palps he'd cleared Mustafar, and that's a firm time stamp. Which brings us to the question of just how far does hyperspace take you in a short time.

Of course, all ships move at the speed of plot. So I'll just make it simple and guess that Mustafar is a Core World.

 

But does Mustafar seem like a Core World? Its not civilized like the Core Worlds, nor habitable like they are, and why would the Separatists choose it for a headquarters if it was in the heart of the Republic? Remember most of the Clone Wars planets were in the Outer Rim, where the control of the CIS was at its greatest. I assume Mustafar is the same way.

 

Mustafar seems like a power generation world, sort of like Saripin. If it is, it may be important enough for the Seperatists to hold.

 

But does Mustafar seem like a Core World? Its not civilized like the Core Worlds, nor habitable like they are, and why would the Separatists choose it for a headquarters if it was in the heart of the Republic? Remember most of the Clone Wars planets were in the Outer Rim, where the control of the CIS was at its greatest. I assume Mustafar is the same way.

Not every planet in the Core systems is a bustling population center. The environment there sort of precludes that. The rationale for the Seps being there would be that a good place for a hideout is where most folks wouldn't think to look.

 

Mustafar is in the Outer Rim, I believe...despite what the movie would suggest, I think that Yoda vs. Sidious was the day before Anakin vs. Obi-Wan, and that Sidious had seen the future when he said that "Darth Vader is in danger".

 

But why is Vader just sitting around on Mustafar while Obi-Wan takes a day-long trip?

 

Awaiting further orders, I suppose. Drinking in the evilness of the planet.

 

My guess is that Mustafar is either on, or very close to, the Corellian Run. We've seen how incredibly fast the transit times between the Core and the Outer Rim are along this route (Han's quick trip to Alderaan in Ep. IV, Darth Maul's trip to Tatooine in Ep. 1, and Yoda's Coruscant-Kamino-Geonosis trip in Ep. II). No other region-spanning route seems to have transit times like this (the Perlemian, for instance, has a slowdown of several days in the Ringali Shell, and the Rimma takes six weeks to traverse).

 

From WotC's Jedi Counceling 72:

Q: Is it just me, or was hyperspace travel just a little bit faster in Revenge of the Sith? It seems like you can get from the Core to the Outer Rim in a matter of hours. Should hyperspace travel times be revised?

A: Possibly -- it depends on how much leeway you allow for dramatic license. Some events may have been shown as happening simultaneously or close together simply to make the story more compelling. Also, hyperspace travel times can be reduced quite a bit by a good Astrogate check.

Still, the movie does seem to hint pretty strongly that travel times are shorter than previously envisioned. If the GM agrees, you may use the following variant rule:

Hyperspace Travel Time: When using Table 11-3: Hyperspace Travel Time, divide the base travel time by three. For example, going from one Core World planet to another would have a base time of 2 hours, and going from the Core to the Outer Rim would have a base time of 32 hours.

As was suggested above, the Yoda v. Sidious duel happened before Obi v. Vader. Obviously, Yoda could get to the Senate before Obi could travel all the way to the Outer Rim with Padme to get to Vader. Palpatine's sense that Vader is in danger could even happen right as the Mustafar duel starts. However, I don't think that we have a day-by-day breakdown of the film and related EU yet. (Heck, we don't even have one for the OT and TPM.)

 

Spaceballs, anyone?

 

Last of the Jedi indicates Polis Massa is very close to Ilum.


Rat: The Polis Massan homeworld is near Subterrel; but the Polis Massan homeworld is NOT Polis Massa. Polis Massan is not actually a species namel we don't know their actual species name (see VD:ROTS).

 

Siddy's shuttle zoomed there in seconds . . .

 

back to the original question: where is Mustafar?

it's in front of a giant blue planet.

 

One would think that the Emperor´s personal shuttle would be pretty much the fastest craft available.

 

This might sound stupid but if the Clone Wars Risk game is accurate, It's near Polis Massa and next to Tatooine.