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where is Treat Williams in ESB?

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by Spacehunter24, Apr 26, 2003.

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  1. Spacehunter24

    Spacehunter24 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Apparently, Treat Williams has two small uncredited roles in ESB, most-likely non-speaking "just standing there" parts. Anybody know where he is?

    He's listed as "Jess Allashane (Echo Base Trooper)" and "Jerrol Blendin (Cloud City Trooper)."
     
  2. Spacehunter24

    Spacehunter24 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Anybody know? I thought for sure, with as many knowledgable people on here, that at least one person might know.
     
  3. AdamBertocci

    AdamBertocci Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I don't know about this Jess character... but Jerrol Blendin is one of the Cloud City Troopers who comes in with Lando when he visits Han in jail.

    I knew Treat Williams was in ESB, but since I wouldn't know him if he jumped up and bit me on the arse, I never really bothered looking [face_blush]


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  4. Spacehunter24

    Spacehunter24 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Hmmm. I just checked that scene out. It must be the second guard who ends up in the shadows for the whole scene, the one who pulls the blaster on Chewie to stop him. The other guard (who whacks Han with the blaster) doesn't look anything like Treat Williams.

    Thanks.
     
  5. Old_Brown_Shoe

    Old_Brown_Shoe Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    By the Red 6 site, this is Jess Alashane:

    [image=http://porkins.home.insightbb.com/Rebel/JessAlashane.jpg]

    and this is Jerrol Blendin:
    [image=http://red6.home.insightbb.com/Aliens/Cloud/blendin.jpg]

    Do either of these characters look familiar (unfortunately, the Blendin pic is not that great)?
     
  6. _dArTh_SoLo

    _dArTh_SoLo Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Treat is such a good actor, he's awesome on the show "Everwood"...not meaning to get off topic.
     
  7. TK_Four_Two_One

    TK_Four_Two_One Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    aye... the lips are similar! :p so i think its him!

    i dont think its the big movie star Treat Williams i.e. this guy
    [image=http://www.telusplanet.net/public/albear1/treatlie.GIF]

    check here

    though this website seems to say its the same guy? though the pic in the website above dont look anything like the guy in the other pic above!
     
  8. Spacehunter24

    Spacehunter24 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Neither of those looks like him. The Cloud City guard is move visible in the film, but like I said, it doesn't look like him.

    And that Jeroen Webb picture at http://www.geocities.com/karloff3/Autograph/treat_williams.htm is most definitely not him, either.

    So perhaps by some chance there's an English actor with the same name, since ESB was filmed in England, because two Treat Williamses could not exist in the Screen Actors Guild.
     
  9. AdamBertocci

    AdamBertocci Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It is the same Treat Williams I believe.
    I think I read about it an article about 'famous actors in real small roles'.
    Also, lots of Internet sites say it was. (not that we should trust the Internet for everything)



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  10. Darth Dark Helmet

    Darth Dark Helmet Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I think the info on which Bespin gaurd he is could be wrong, that looks nothing like him. The Hoth soldier does kind of though.
     
  11. Spacehunter24

    Spacehunter24 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Okay. I spent some time yesterday, and I cannot visually spot Treat Williams anywhere in ESB.

    However, I just discovered something interesting. In the book STAR WARS: THE ACTION FIGURE ARCHIVE by Stephen J. Sansweet, there's a still photo on page 99 of Lobot and three Cloud City guards. The guard to Lobot's right looks very much like Williams, and he has a beard and mustache. (I've seen him enough times in movies to feel confident that it is him in the picture, and even my parents agree that it is.)

    I couldn't spot any bearded/mustached guards in the film, so perhaps he was in a scene that was cut from the film print. As for his Hoth trooper role, perhaps he's just hidden under battle gear out in the trenches.
     
  12. MeBeJedi

    MeBeJedi Force Ghost star 6

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    IMDB:Treat Williams:
    * Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980) (uncredited) .... Jess Allashane (Echo Base trooper)/Jerrol Blendin (Cloud City trooper)

    IMDB:ESB:
    Treat Williams .... Jess Allashane (Echo Base trooper)/Jerrol Blendin (Cloud City trooper) (uncredited)

    Keep lookin' :D

    [EDIT]: Oops, just noticed that this info is at the top...oh well.

    One of the reasons why he may be uncredited is because he isn't shown onscreen.

    These autographed cards might suggest that we don't actually see him.

    ESB autographs

    autographed card

    If he was one of the guards in the cell, he's probably the one in the dark. Otherwise, there are a few scenes where we don't see all the faces of the guards.

    Oh well. :(
     
  13. DarthLuxor

    DarthLuxor Jedi Padawan star 4

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    The better question is where's Cliff Claven of Cheers fame? I'm always wondered.
     
  14. Spacehunter24

    Spacehunter24 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Easy.

    "Your Highness. There's nothing more we can do tonight. The shield doors must be closed."

    Yup, that's Cliff himself right there. I had no idea where he was until somebody finally pointed him out to me.

    It may not look like him at first, but if you're familiar enough with him, you should be able to tell it's him. THE STAR WARS ENCYCLOPEDIA has a better picture of him, too.
     
  15. UK Sullustian

    UK Sullustian Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    "Your Highness. There's nothing more we can do tonight. The shield doors must be closed." is not Cliff. It's a (probably) dubbed English Actor

    Cliff is "Everybody to your stations, lets go!"

    UKS
     
  16. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

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    They are one and the same. He plays Major Derlin, who is in two scenes: He tells Leia the shield doors must be closed, and he tells the pilots to all get to their stations.
     
  17. UK Sullustian

    UK Sullustian Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Your right they are both "Cliff", but he sounds dubbed in the "Shield Doors..." scene.

    UKS
     
  18. MeBeJedi

    MeBeJedi Force Ghost star 6

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    "they are both "Cliff", but he sounds dubbed in the "Shield Doors..." scene."

    That's too funny. I knew he was the "Everybody to your stations" guy, but never recognized his voice in the second part. Why the hell did they dub him there? ?[face_plain]

    Oh well. More trivia. :D
     
  19. spring_warm

    spring_warm Jedi Youngling star 2

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    my dad is friends with cliff robertson...his names cliff
     
  20. MeBeJedi

    MeBeJedi Force Ghost star 6

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    You should tell him to post. It would be great to get more SW stars online.

    Tell him I said "Hi!". :D
     
  21. Spacehunter24

    Spacehunter24 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Cliff Robertson played Uncle Ben in SPIDER-MAN.
     
  22. GRANDADMIRALAXLROSE

    GRANDADMIRALAXLROSE Jedi Knight star 7

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    i've never seen idmb or whatever its called be wrong before.
     
  23. skyy38

    skyy38 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Sorry to disappoint you hard working Jedi but John Ratzenberger is neither the "shield doors.." person nor the "...stations.." person.

    He is the one talking to Han who tells him that they've "been having trouble adapting the speeders to the cold.." just before Han decides to go out on a taun-taun in search of luke.

    Now,I could be wrong about the "stations.." guy-it's been awhile since I've seen the movie but the "shield doors" person is definitely *not* Ratzenberger.

    I'm going to watch the movie again just to make sure...

    *oh boy!-ANOTHER Excuse!!


    :)
     
  24. CaptainYossarian

    CaptainYossarian Jedi Master star 3

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    For that matter, does anyone know if you can actually see Ralph McQuarrie in TESB? Apparently he is in it.
     
  25. Spacehunter24

    Spacehunter24 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    If I remember correctly, all three of those guys - "shield doors," "stations," and "having trouble" - look the same, which would mean it's the same guy.

    But isn't it that young guy who tells the Han the speeders still aren't working properly?
     
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