Where was Boss Nass during the Battle on the Naboo plains?

Padme/the Queen of Naboo leads her own Security Forces and bodyguards into combat to liberate her people from Nute Gungray and the Trade Federation but Boss Nass is nowhere to be seen during the battle with the Battle Droids on the Naboo plains,he isnt even giving orders from the end of the Gungan line on the far side either, why is he hiding like a coward when everyone else including the Queen and her Handmaidens are personally fighting the Battle Droid Army and risking their lives when they could easily hide out and let the Soldiers fight? I know hes fat but hes not stupid like Jar Jar Binks is and he has that leadership edge that none of the other Gungans do.

 

Where's the Jedi Council? Where's Palpatine? It's not a battle of leaders (except Padmé)--it's the ordinary folks who have to work together.

 

Not fighting is not cowardly, especially when your a leader (an unfit one at that). A smart general does not fight with his troops on the front line. For Boss Nass to fight would be to throw his life away needlessly.

 

Boss Nass wasn't a coward. He was not on the front lines because that is why he has generals. Padme led the strike team because there weren't that many Naboo to fight and she choose to fight. Besides, the Naboo can elect another ruler. They cannot easily replace Boss Nass as there probably isn't anyone old enough to lead the Gungans.

 

They cannot easily replace Boss Nass

Thats so pitifully sad if true.

 

While I agree with the first half of your statement, you really pulled that last part out of thin air. Where is the evidence to support this? Where is there ever any inkling in the movies that there are no other elder Gungans around to lead them should Nass fall? Stick to what's there or what is easily inferred, there's no need to be making crap up out of thin air in this case.

 

He can hardly walk alone, yet battle.

I mean, he had General Jar Jar to do his work.

 

Do you see any Gungans that look like Nass? No. Ergo, there's no one. Don't accuse me of pulling crap out of thin air. I go by what is shown in the film.

 

According to the Episode I Visual Dictionary the leadership of the Gungans is made of of Boss Nass and the Rep Council. Although this Council is responsible for overseeing various aspects of government, none of them are assigned a "second in command" type duty where they would take over in the event of Boss Nass' demise. So it is reasonable to infer that the Gungans would not risk the loss of Boss Nass in combat and he therefore does not lead the army into battle.

 

Where was Boss Nass during the Battle on the Naboo plains?

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On Tattooine, eating frogs out of a bowl with Jabba.

 

I wouldn't say that Boss Nass was a coward, but he hardly looks like he's in the condition for battle. He was probably on the sidelines, observing troop movements, or handling logistics and communications.

 

Like any good modern ruler he stays safely behind while ordering his people to go to war.

 

In Otoh Gunga,...tis safe city, playing with his plasma balls.

 

They could be good for playing Tennis, maybe underwater tennis.

 

When you pull crap out of thin air I'm going to call you on it, simple as that. This is yet another case of you doing that, there is no visual evidence given to support your claim, there aren't even any of your fall-back Lucas quotes to supoport you on this issue, there's nothing to go on that could lead to your interpetation. As for other Gungans not looking like Boss, we never see any of the other Gungan leaders, so that's impossible to know, and yet another assertion you are pulling out of thin air.

 

Actually, Boss Nass was an "Ankura-Gungan" which differed from Jar Jar's eye-stalk, pink and purple race, which were called "Otolla-Gungans". Ankuras had hooded eyeballs, flat wider heads and were always green. They made up the smallest percentage of the Gungan population. Rugor was his real name before becoming "Boss". He was a people's champ as a fighter and rode his popularity to office.

Here is the "Wookiepeedia" on ANKURA's:

The Ankura were a race of the Gungan species. Unlike the Otolla, Ankuras have hooded eyes, broad wide heads, and green skin. Like the Otolla, they have long ears, which are sometimes tied together behind the head

The Ankuras had been separate and distant from other Gungans until the founding of Otoh Gunga by Gallo, an Ankuran. The new underwater city brought all Gungans together in a unified community, under the rule of the Gungan High Council. In the total Gunga population, the Ankurans made up a relatively small percentage; however, they have long maintained a strong presence on the Council.

Famous Ankurans include Gallo and Rugor Nass.

 

I know that, but the thing is that the EU is irrelevant to DS, so unless he's being extremely hypocritical he doesn't have any evidence to back up his claim.

 

Regardless of whether I use the eu or not, the point is the same. We see no other Gungans like Nass, ergo he is the only one at this time. And he cannot be easily replaced. BTW, need I remind you we are not to talk about the individuals, but the topics. You've got something to say to me, say it in private.

 

So someone saying that a statement is asinine is now talking about the individual and not the statement? That's interesting, perhaps you're uber-sensitive, but when someone disagrees with a statement you make and attacks it vehemently that doesn't mean they are attacking you, but rather the statement you made.

Either way, your reasoning is still flawed beyond belief. We see no Twi'Lek Jedi other than Ayala Secura throughout the movies, does that automatically mean she's the only Twi'Lek Jedi? The absence of something is not proof, so the absence of other Gungans that look like Nass is not proof that he is one of a kind in any way. You are inferring where there is no inference to be made, you've gone beyond grasping at straws in this argument and into some land that I can't even label.

 

Sinister knows the EU quite well. I've never known him to disallow the EU.
In fact, he's been known to quote the Novels from time to time. Not to mention he is (IMO) the TFN Keeper of the Holocron of Lucas' quotes.

So this whole "Sinister don't use the EU thing"... I don't get it.

 

He doesn't consider the novelizations to be EU, and besides the fact that relying on Lucas quotes is not a good thing, please don't insult the EU by implying that Lucas quotes are a part of it. I don't know whether he likes it or not, and I won't make any assumption on that, but he has stated before that this is a forum for discussing what we see in the movies, not what the EU later tells us. We're supposed to be bound to the movies in this forum, I personally don't think it should be that way, but that's the way that it is. That's why the EU is irrelevant to this discussion and to what DS was saying.

 

Whoah there! I completely IGNORE Lucas' quotes, and bash them all the time just ask Sinister! Thats why I poked fun about them in my last post!
IMO: Novels are EU, as they differ from each film slightly.

EDIT: That's funny about allowing EU! It is constantly quoted all over this forum. So I'll leave this discussion to you two.

 

During the battle, Boss Nass was at the Naboo Fat Farm, trying to slim down
for a svelte figure at the victory celebration. It's true!

 

I don't mind people disagreeing with me. I do mind when people accuse me of making things up. Your tone in response to my posts was such that it comes across as rather vehement. We're not here to discuss each other. We're in here to discuss the story.

I'm not grasping at straws. I'm making a perfectly sound statement. In TPM, we only see those that look like Jar Jar. With only a slight variation among them. We, however, do not see a variation of Boss Nass. Ergo, we see only one Gungan that is as old and wise as him. We see only one Gungan that is leader.

As to the eu, I've used it to show examples to people who have had questions about stuff in the films that they don't understand. I've told them that if they wish to suscribe to that, they can. I've also said that while the novelizations are a good indicator what's going on in the characters minds or if something is missed, there are times when it flies in the face of the films. And since there are those who wish to discuss what is on screen rather than in some book that they're not going to read or totally contradicts the film, I'm going to wind up favoring the film. Since it is the most readily known medium. Lucas quotes are the next step, because one can turn on the commentaries and hear him speak about the story. Since the statements made in the commentaries, interviews and the making of books come from his mouth, they hold more substence than a writer trying to understand what he is saying. Interpeting it for us.